mildbill Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 http://www.musicplayer.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=011643 and http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=011645#000000 let's see if anyone's changed their mind since these posts. so far, it looks like Access gave us the TI instead of the 'D'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 m-bill, good tracking. I was on the 1st URL. Absolutely nothing has changed my opinion on Y/K/R Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 Hmmh, and I posted on them both. Shouda checked. I'd think the rumor mill would start up around now. Zero, wouldn't you think that the fortunes of the Varios and the V-synth would rise and fall together? I'm hoping they come out with more cards too. If you think of it as their classic rompler "gillette" strategy (sell the synth then make money off the roms), they would want to do that. However I suspect that organizing yourself to making new code is less leveragable than using your sample library to eke out some more dollars. I can't see the big Neko being attractive to me. nEKO sounds closer. But racking it like receptor would seem to take the cost out. And let you pick your controller. To markyboard's point, the workstation vst player, needs to offer some additional "master controller" functionality in order to be distinctive. If you could load and manage the VST's easily in a modular way (like spark) that would help. Oh, I predict that Steady and the Yeti will find that they already know each other. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimmy Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Oh, I forgot: With computer parts becoming cheaper and cheaper,wouldn`t it be great seeing Korg eventually releasing the OASYS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP3 Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 If Roland is trolling, how about the JD800 and a few other for the VariOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Array Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 My predictions: We will finally see the full capabilities of the Virus TI. By full capabilities I mean that we will see not only what the wavetables offer, but also some features that have not been mentioned. I predict that it will have some G2 like capabilities which will permit users to create their own synth models. Just a hunch though. Hopefuly Korg will have a new VA. The Kurzweil VA-1 will come back into the spotlight with a vengeance. We will finaly see the Spectralis in it's completed form. The M5 will make an appearance. Dave Smith will release a new keyboard instrument based on his evolver line of synths. I'm sure there will also be some unanticipated annoucements as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moj Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 The SFX Space Station keyboard stereo monitor will be available. SFX Space Station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzzz Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Dave Smith will release a new keyboard instrument based on his evolver line of synths. I could live without the keyboard, but I would love to see a "desktop" version of the PolyEvolver. The current rack version is not that fun to edit, and (at least on a Mac) the included software editor is not that great.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmix Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Originally posted by Marzzz: Dave Smith will release a new keyboard instrument based on his evolver line of synths. I could live without the keyboard, but I would love to see a "desktop" version of the PolyEvolver. The current rack version is not that fun to edit, and (at least on a Mac) the included software editor is not that great....I've run out of tabletop space must have rack ears !!!!!!!! But I'm all for the keyboard too, hopefully something substantial like the Andromeda ???????? All the knobs on top with a nice logical layout. The Poly has quickly become my favorite synth. Rob Hoffman http://www.robmixmusic.com Los Angeles, CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Grace Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Originally posted by Marzzz: I could live without the keyboard, but I would love to see a "desktop" version of the PolyEvolver. The current rack version is not that fun to edit, and (at least on a Mac) the included software editor is not that great....Of course, in a sense a desktop version of the Poly Evolver can already be had by interfacing a table top Evolver with the rack unit. That allows an extra voice to play with too. Even so, ideally one would probably want a dedicated unit with a fair amount of knobs and a more detailed display. My NAMM prediction is the same one I made last year: more instruments and effects units that merge one or more advantages of hardware (analog sound, immunity to piracy, stability, knobs and faders, etc.) with the advantages of computer software (DAW interfacing, GUI editing, etc.). Best, Geoff My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Geoff: Chaining the Evolver with the Poly was touched on in a previous thread. I think that's too expensive for a 5 voice synth, without a KB. If you consider the competition out there from the VA market (I know its not the same thing) you can get a lot of synth for 2k. It seems like the instruments that are getting some attention on this thread are the DSI POLY Evolver and a Motif ES rack. Keyboard players that don't want just another "Me Too" product can't help but be interested in what Dave Smith is putting out. I'm anxiously awaiting Winter Namm to see what he comes out with too. Players that already have a workstation class board would like to see a Motif ES rack, minus the latency issue with the current Motif rack. It will be interesting to see if Yamaha uses their survey information and comes out with a powerful KB with less than 88 keys. Mike T. Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted December 1, 2004 Author Share Posted December 1, 2004 You know what's frustrating, nobody around here has an evolver or poly-evolver to show. Array, I'm with you on Korg and VA's. I think the Legacy collection shows how far Korg has come in the modelling department. It's time to update the hardware offerings (Triton, MOSS) to be more in line with those software capabilities. I hope more digital I/O and control (MLAN, SPDIF) is seen in hardware synths. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Tusker: You might want to send Dave Bryce an email. He can probably hook you up with a DSI dealer that has one to try out. Mike T. Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hooper Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Time for a major new Korg workstation that doesn't have "Triton" as part of its name. Composer/Performer at Roger Hooper Music Product Trainer at CASIO www.rogerhooper.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthguy Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 You mean "Tri"? I could live with something like a Trilogy III or Triumph or some other "Tri" as long as it was a big step towards the Oasys. How about a workstation synth that used an expanded Legacy engine combined with the Triton Extreme plus waverom and a MOSS synth engine with more polyphony? And a nice raft of controls and inputs like a Kurzweil, as well as SCSI, USB and MLan? That would just about be an Oasys, wouldn't it? With todays chip performance and low price, Oasys looks just about affordable. I'm also counting on some movement from our friends at Creamw@re. This keyboard solo has obviously been tampered with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clusterchord Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 imho, what KORG needs most right now, regarding its future workstations, is revision of voice arhitecture with more velocity switching than two per osc. Second they need to rid of their plastic papery resonant filters and put in a truly remarkable digital filter, possibly with a 'emulation' mode like Virus has for moog. Also their complete audio path is a bit dark, needs revision in direction of more fidelity - for example, when i loaded the same Fazioli piano in Kontakt, Triton Studio and E4XT - it was ok in Kontakt, muffled in TRITON, and larger-than-life in Emulator. I tried tweaking and bypassing all that i could, but you just dont get a clear sample playback unaffected when going thru tritons arhitecture. one of the reasons why i sold it. You can hear this 'effect' on almost all 'analog' renditions on Extreme series. They can put terabytes of ROM inside , it still wont help this issue. Also, they need to make a really playable HQ piano and rhodes multivelocity sample, and dispence with the tube thingie. otoh, imo they still have the best programmers, FX, arpeggiators and UI out of all workstations. http://www.babic.com - music for film/theatre, audio-post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthguy Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Now that is interesting. I noticed that just about every patch on my JP-8000 uses the EQ, especially the treble. Without EQ, the patches are all dull, so it may be that way with all the Triton patches also. I know that just about every patch I looked at uses EQ on it, which I trimmed back quite a bit on the ones I intended to use. It seems that way on my landlord's S80 as well. Maybe we should ask for an audiophile synth engine for Christmas along with everything else. Come to think of it, my XV-3080 doesn't seem as EQ happy. This keyboard solo has obviously been tampered with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 I wasn't aware of the Triton being dark on 3rd party samples. Is that with zero filtering Tom?I like the way Yamaha tends to have a dedicated eq stage. I hope that we will end up with some mastering type tools (multi-band compression, impulse modelling) and new dsp ideas in the output stage of synths. Part of the rompler problem is the deadness of sound. So the programmer is walking a line between bright/harsh and muffled/sweet. Since emulative synthesis keeps the traditional filtering mild to preserve sample fidelity, it would help to have other ways to create phase shifts and interest. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clusterchord Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by Tusker: I wasn't aware of the Triton being dark on 3rd party samples. Is that with zero filtering Tom?yes. i tried several times, making sure everything is bypassed or set to off. no FX, no velocity to filter or something like that. it doesnt matter, difference isnt too subtle, it can be spotted on any sound that has reasonable ammount of HF content - i noticed tritons 'muffled' tone first when i needed extra poly and transfered a female choir sample from E4 to triton. it is not only different in freq. content, but dynamics sound smaller, more compressed, as well. http://www.babic.com - music for film/theatre, audio-post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Originally posted by Tusker: You know what's frustrating, nobody around here has an evolver or poly-evolver to show. Check yer PMs, brother J. dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted December 4, 2004 Author Share Posted December 4, 2004 Back atchya! Thank you Dave. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
part1sts Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Who is actually going to the show from here? Together we stand, Divided we fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleen Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Originally posted by part1sts: Who is actually going to the show from here?I'll be there. recording/mix guy don gunn.com myspace.com/dongunnmusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyb Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I'll be there. I'm required to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Grace Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I plan to go as well. Best, Geoff My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Me, too. I'll be working for two companies - one in Hall A, the other in Hall E. That should be fun... dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Array Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Originally posted by Dave Bryce: Me, too. I'll be working for two companies - one in Hall A, the other in Hall E. That should be fun... dBWhat's the other company besides Dave Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Originally posted by Array: What's the other company besides Dave Smith? ADAM Audio. dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeronyne Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I'm trying hard to be there. "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Grace Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Originally posted by Dave Bryce: Me, too. I'll be working for two companies - one in Hall A, the other in Hall E. That should be fun... Hey Dave, when does your job with Clones-R-Us start? Originally posted by zeronyne: I'm trying hard to be there.zeronyne, were you able to reserve a hotel ? Best, Geoff My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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