GovernorSilver Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Casio announced 2 new arranger keyboard models. Demo by our usual suspects at Sweetwater 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 This product is so much fun. 3 Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 And this from Christian Matthew Cullen 4 Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 Mike, I see there are 10 User Songs for the CT-S1000V. Is a User Song basically a linear MIDI sequence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 Also, I see there are up 50 User Rhythms. Are these are the equivalent of "styles" on other brand arranger keyboards? Are these created using an app or onboard the keyboard? Sorry I would have edited these questions into the earlier post but I couldn't find the Edit button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miden Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 These 'boards are total cheese! Sorry to Casio and everyone else. Easy to see this is a marketing construction and aimed at creating the most $'s quickly. I am sure others will rave about it, but for me, nah, huge yawn and a turn-off. It's not even listed under the Casio premier keyboards section - and it has no expression pedal input, well at least, it is not mentioned in the VERY limited specs available at this stage. I can't find a pic of the rear either so might have to wait and see. 1 Quote There is no luck - luck is simply the confluence of circumstance and co-incidence... Time is the final arbiter for all things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, miden said: ... and it has no expression pedal input, well at least, it is not mentioned in the VERY limited specs available at this stage. I can't find a pic of the rear either so might have to wait and see. Both boards have the same connections according to the photos I'm seeing on retailer websites. Left to right: Micro USB To Host, USB-A To Device, Power Switch (I think), DC-In, 1/8" Phones output, 1/8" Audio In, 1/4" R & L/Mono Line Outputs, Pedal 1 (probably sustain/switch) input, Pedal 2/Expression input. 1 Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, miden said: and it has no expression pedal input It does have assignable expression pedal input. 1 Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 This is where I found specs: https://www.casio.com/products/electronic-musical-instruments/casiotone/ct-s1000v https://www.casio.com/products/electronic-musical-instruments/casiotone/ct-s500 They look like good competition to arrangers from Yamaha (PSR line) in this price bracket. I notice the 1000V comes with the Bluetooth MIDI-Audio adapter for free while the 500 does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wraub Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 ...I still have a CT-102. 😃 Quote I'm a lot more like I am now than I was when I got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I still have a CT-370 from the '80s too. Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76, PC4 (88) | Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Action off the CT-S200/300? Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipeb3 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 A couple questions about the 500... The expression pedal input... is it switchable, like in the 3000, so you could use a Yamaha FC7? Are the presets nameable? Unlike the 3000... And, any thoughts about an 88 key version? thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 this video from Benn Jordan is very informative with a touch of humor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Gauss Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, GovernorSilver said: I notice the 1000V comes with the Bluetooth MIDI-Audio adapter for free while the 500 does not. per casio page for 500: <<Includes WU-BT01 Bluetooth MIDI/Audio adapter>> https://www.casiomusicgear.com/products/casiotone-series/ct-s500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, D. Gauss said: per casio page for 500: <<Includes WU-BT01 Bluetooth MIDI/Audio adapter>> https://www.casiomusicgear.com/products/casiotone-series/ct-s500 Ah they updated the pages. Earlier in the day, the product page said "optional". At least that's what I recall. No screenshot to prove it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 hours ago, GovernorSilver said: Is a User Song basically a linear MIDI sequence? Found the answer by, well, finding the manual - I presume whatever applies to the 500 also applies to the 1000V https://support.casio.com/storage/en/manual/pdf/EN/008/CTS500_usersguide_EN.pdf Page EN-158: "The maximum size of a single song recording is approximately 40,000 notes or 999 measures" Sounds like a linear sequence to me. Also looks like songs can be imported and exported to/from a USB drive. Maybe the Casio Music Space app as well? Not sure if external gear like my Roland MC-101 can be connected and driven by the sequencer - will have to look further into that. 2 hours ago, GovernorSilver said: Also, I see there are up 50 User Rhythms. Are these are the equivalent of "styles" on other brand arranger keyboards? Are these created using an app or onboard the keyboard? I was unable to find the answers to these questions but user rhythms can be imported from the app or USB drive. I want to do one of the open mic nights at my favorite neighborhood coffee shop. It's a fairly small space. That's why I'm considering one of these arranger keyboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 10 hours ago, skipeb3 said: A couple questions about the 500... The expression pedal input... is it switchable, like in the 3000, so you could use a Yamaha FC7? Are the presets nameable? Unlike the 3000... And, any thoughts about an 88 key version? thanks in advance. Expressional pedal is Switchable, I have not tested it with a FC7. To my knowledge that pedal is not compatible with any of our keyboards. I have used Expression pedals from Roland, M-Audio and others. Registrations are currently the same as the PX-S3000. I can't guarantee that there will be an update but we're pushing back to R&D as hard as we can about this. Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 9 hours ago, GovernorSilver said: I want to do one of the open mic nights at my favorite neighborhood coffee shop. It's a fairly small space. That's why I'm considering one of these arranger keyboards. These new models are not replacements for our CT-X3000/5000 arrangers. The CT-X may be better suited for the one-man-band situation better than the CT-S models which gain other features, real-time controls and sounds in comparison. Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 For Coffee Shop playing do check out the Korg EK50 L. 2x10W onboard speakers. The Casiotone is 2x2.5W so a total waste of time. Quote Col Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Gauss Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 other than the $$ and "mr. roboto" vocal thingy, what's the diff between the 500 and 1000? any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 They are essentially identical. Off the top of my head one physical change...the Lyric button on the CT-S1000V is the DSP button on the CT-S500. So if you want the vocal synthesis, it's just a little bit more $ or you can save a few bucks and stick with the CT-S500. Casio realizes the Vocal Synthesis may not be for everyone but they positioned the products this way so that it wouldn't be a large leap for those that do want to experiment with the Vocal Synthesis. Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Gauss Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 is the main piano sound the same one as the ct-s1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, D. Gauss said: is the main piano sound the same one as the ct-s1? Yes but ultimately more flexible with customizable effects and many more variations that the CT-S1 does not have. Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Mike Martin said: These new models are not replacements for our CT-X3000/5000 arrangers. The CT-X may be better suited for the one-man-band situation better than the CT-S models which gain other features, real-time controls and sounds in comparison. Thanks, I will check out the CT-X arrangers. At first glance, I can see onboard editing of User Rhythms vs. no onboard editing, 17 tracks vs. 6, 10 Songs vs. 1, etc. Also good point by Biggles regarding the speaker wattage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 hours ago, D. Gauss said: is the main piano sound the same one as the ct-s1? 1 hour ago, Mike Martin said: Yes but ultimately more flexible with customizable effects and many more variations that the CT-S1 does not have. Does it have all the sounds the CT-S1 has? The CT-S1 has all those nice direct buttons for selecting sounds. It would be nice if Casio had an iOS/Android app where you could create screens for banks of favorite sounds you could tap to select. Of course there already are apps for sending MIDI Program Changes on command, but they can be a little complicated, with having to enter MSB/LSB/PC for the sound you want and then type the name of the sound, whereas something from the manufacturer could be pre-configured with all the sound names and program changes. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Gauss Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, AnotherScott said: Does it have all the sounds the CT-S1 has? would like to know that , too. also can the leslie fast/slow speed be changed in the organ patches. (my main peeve about the ct-s1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 46 minutes ago, AnotherScott said: Does it have all the sounds the CT-S1 has? Yes. 38 minutes ago, D. Gauss said: would like to know that , too. also can the leslie fast/slow speed be changed in the organ patches. (my main peeve about the ct-s1) Yes. 47 minutes ago, AnotherScott said: It would be nice if Casio had an iOS/Android app where you could create screens for banks of favorite sounds you could tap to select. We've requested numerous times. I don't have any other info at this time. Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 Wow, all the CT-S1 sounds and more effects customization... For me this, as well as the assignable knobs, may outweigh the greater track count, onboard rhythm editing, more powerful amps, etc. of the CT-X units. The coffee shop in question has its own PA, however modest it may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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