Mats Olsson. Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Turns out I'm close to develop pneumonia. No big deal really. Just that this is not the first time... and it bothers me a lot. Must get a really good doctor. Really. I call the hospital and ask a head nurse who is the best specialist for my condition? She gave me a name and I look up the number in the phonebook. Yes he could see me, tomorrow. No can do, I'm going away tomorrow morning. -Can you come right now? Sure, I can be there in 20 minutes. Anyway, the good doctor certainly knew what he was doing. An old chap, active duty as ear/nose/throat specialist since 1953. Sometimes you don't get as lucky and have to be examined by a 25 year old rookie with too many patients waiting outside. But this was different, total class act. A Zen Master. No stress, plenty of questions, taking notes ALL the time. Not even a computer in his office. Analog doctor, I like that. He opened a book, asked some more questions. Leaned back silently for some time. Then he reached for some other papers and wrote prescriptions. Still not talking. When he was done writing he told me lots of stuff about my condition, really intresting. And then he gave me the prescriptions and explained what to take when and how. "Don't drink anything cold, eat no ice cream, no dairy products. Warm drinks like coffe and tea is good, but nothing cold." (the whole lecture was quite a lot longer). He also booked a new apointment on friday, he wants me to inhale some extra special drugs then. OK, good doctor, see you friday! (that was a truly awesome experience!, a real pro in action. I tell you: it was totally Zen-like, with a bullet!) Next: a slow stroll to the pharmacy. Had to wait in line for quite some time and then it was my turn. The pharmacist called for an older colleague to decipher the good doctors hieroglyphs that she could not read. (What is it with the young ones, do they only read computer generated text?). After decoding the secret messages they opened a book. Then they asked to see my ID and started to mess with the computer. Finally they handed over the medicine but I got some very elaborate instructions on one of the three packages: "If you take this any other time than before going to bed, you must not drive!" also (serious look on her face): "Don't even think about taking more than what is prescribed, not even a little extra. This stuff is normally not prescribed, hospitals use it occasionally." OK, I will do as you say! I payed and walked slowly towards the parking lot. Stopped on the way and had a late lunch. Then back home. Several hours later it is bedtime. I open the magic potion bottle and pours exactly the prescribed amount. Then I remember that I was told to shake the bottle first. Pour back, shake and pour again. Not bad, almost no taste, a little sweet. Before going to bed, I log on one more time and enters these forums. A short while later: WWOOAAAH! What's happening here? I feel so "different", in a good way. Back to the kitchen, open the fridge, grabs the magic potion and reads the label: first observation is that there is a BIG red triangle - meaning "don't even think about driving, buddy". Ok, but I can imagine that it would be intresting to try under controlled circumcisions. In the state I'm in now I couldn't probably put on my shoes, much less tie them. Back to the label. Hmmm...focus...need more light...(labels here must follow certain rules, what's most of must come first etc...) I stopped an put the bottle back in the fridge after the first ingredient: ethylmorphine. Good night! /Mats http://www.lexam.net/peter/carnut/man.gif What do we want? Procrastination! When do we want it? Later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourMotherShouldKnow Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 That's awesome dude! I mean, it sucks you have near-pnemonia but that med sounds sweeeeet. I'm not one for drug addiction BUT I had some kinda bad cough thing a few years ago and felt god awful and the doc gave me some kind of codeine thing....AHHHH it was heavenly. I have a big ol' bottle of that stuff and any time life got too tough (a couple times a year) I'd make it all go away with that manna from heaven. ENJOY!!!! Plasticine portraits with looking-glass tiesNewspaper taxis appear at the shore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Highly addictive stuff, so be sure to take it exactly as ordered. Sorry you're not feeling well - please take care of yourself and get better soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not Cereal Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 one should never drive under controlled circumcisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Man, what a hip doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 "I went to my doctor, such a waste of time; He gave me a bottle full of dope of some kind; It said 'shake 'fore you use'; But it still don't shake these blues." -Chris Smither Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 I didn't know you weren't feeling well, Mats. Good luck with the recovery, and careful of that substance. Anything that makes you feel as good as that has an opposite but equal downside as well. Trust me, I know. A fast story: in the music and audio industry, trade shows like NAMM and AES are way overblown in terms of their importance. It would always seem that someone was getting hired or fired somewhere near the dates of a major trade show, so most employees were always on their best behavior around those times. One guy who reported to me hadn't been feeling well before an AES show, and I told him that if he was sick, not to bother coming to the show, and I'd handle his duties. Well, he showed up anyway, looking pretty bad. Before the start of the first day, I asked him if he'd seen his doctor, and he said he had. I asked what the diagnosis was, and the guy hesitated a bit before replying, "Pneumonia." I nicely but firmly grabbed him and physically escorted him out of the convention center, with orders not to return. He began to protest until I told him that he'd be of much more use to the company alive than dead. Pneumonia is nothing to screw around with. It kills people, and that's not good. So, take care of yourself, don't get addicted to morphine, and I'm sure you'll be better soon. - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodlakesound Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 I know I'm nobody influential to you Matt but you may be a good candidate for fasting (the water only kind). Quite effective in restoring normal functioning. Other than that I hope the 'fixes' you're undertaking help your recovery regardless of thier true usability for that condition. Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Pneumonia is one of those peculiar acting maladies like tonsillitis. In that it is more serious and dangerous the older you get. What was funny, sort of, when my daughter had pneumonia back in '76. She was four years old at the time, and only required three days hospital stay. While setting up her room the first night(at three AM! Kids NEVER get really sick until the middle of the night!)they set up an oxygen tent with what I thought was a vaporizer attached. I was corrected by the nurse, who told me it was a machine that emits a supply of cool, moist air. "They used to use vaporizers with steam and menthol", she said, "But they found out it only made it worse. The cool, damp air contracts the fluid, and makes it expectorate quicker." So I asked, "So, you're treating my daughter's pneumonia with cool, damp air?" She said yes. Then I asked, "You mean the same kind of cool, damp air my mother said to stay out of or else I'd get pneumomia?" She didn't say anything. She just chuckled... Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offramp Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 It's the UNCONTROLLED circumcisions you REALLY need to worry about! I've upped my standards; now, up yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeronyne Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Ethylmorphine? For pneumonia? Man, I have to move to Europe! "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Originally posted by woodlakesound: I know I'm nobody influential to you Matt but you may be a good candidate for fasting (the water only kind). Quite effective in restoring normal functioning. Other than that I hope the 'fixes' you're undertaking help your recovery regardless of thier true usability for that condition. Peace.Definitely wouldn't recommend fasting for pneumonia. The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodlakesound Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Originally posted by nursers: [Definitely wouldn't recommend fasting for pneumonia.[/QB] Why? Give us some of your knowledge on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodlakesound Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Originally posted by woodlakesound: Originally posted by nursers: Definitely wouldn't recommend fasting for pneumonia.Why? Give us some of your knowledge on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodlakesound Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Originally posted by nursers: Definitely wouldn't recommend fasting for pneumonia.Why? Give us some of your knowledge on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not coaster MODERATOR Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Originally posted by woodlakesound: Originally posted by nursers: Definitely wouldn't recommend fasting for pneumonia.Why? Give us some of your knowledge on the subject.he's a NURSE for cryin out loud!! of course he knows about pneumonia. whenever anybody in the forum gets sick we go to nursers for advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not Cereal Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 you forgot that nursers is imaginary, although i dont remember why he is imaginary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodlakesound Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 overuse of antibiotics are a major cause of pneumonia in older people, happens mostly in hospitals.... staffed with NURSES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark V Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 At the risk of sounding pessimistic I hope you don't get full blown pnumonia,a friend of ours had it recently,he's only 38 and he was buggered for about 3 months. Your doctor sounds cool,my doctor is a neat guy,actually he's Spanish which is kind of odd as Spanish people arn't very common in this part of the world,he has a very calming way,does acupuncture too. I once had a quasi-religious experience..then I realised I'd turned up the volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brakka Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Take care Mats, and yeah be careful with the magic potion. It's not really magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Originally posted by woodlakesound: overuse of antibiotics are a major cause of pneumonia in older people, happens mostly in hospitals.... staffed with NURSESAnd do the nurses prescribe the antibiotics? Having pneumonia is a serious illness whose recovery time can be delayed through poor nutrition etc. A water-only diet could also cause electrolyte disturbances, which if let go unchecked can cause everything from vomiting to cardiac arrythmias. Not a high likelihood but still a possibility. Get well soon Mats The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ani Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Mats, Get well soon sweetie. I've had pneumonia twice; once during my youth and again about 10 years ago. They say that once you have had it, you become more suseptible to getting it again. I think that my allergies keep my immune system busy all through the spring and fall, then when winter comes on.... BANG, I have to be careful not to push the limits on exposure. My doctors (2 of them in the same office that I alternate between) prescribed Midren for my migranes that come on about once every 2 or 3 months. I think they said there was codene in it; I'm not sure..... but I know that 1 tablet with completely knock me on my can for several hours. I don't have a high effect what-so-ever; I can't stay awake long enough to feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisDude Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Be careful with that stuff... Sounds like its derived from an opiate. It could cause massive stomach aches coming down. Take it with some crackers and it might keep the itching down. Hopefully the good doc is not so "cool" that he just dispenses feel good juice for the symptoms without attacking the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodlakesound Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 And do the nurses prescribe the antibiotics? My comment was in reference to Cereals post, not about nurses duties. As a side note though, prescription doses and cross influences are commonly screwed up by Doctors and Nurses in the one place you'd think that would not happen. One must take control of their own fate when it comes to medical or any other form of recovery care. It's fascinating why we put so much trust in the medicines (drugs) prescribed by those with no real knowledge of health. Disease care? YES. Health building? Very rare once your on the other path of symptom avoidance. Symptoms are the bodies attempt at recovery. Example. Inflamation....raising temperature and pain limits our willingness to move around either on an all-inclusive level (such as a flu) or a micro-level (such as a sprained muscle). Either scenario is commonly treated with pain and fever reducers to ease the discomfort. While this appears to be the correct approach it has no relationship to a physiological recovery and many times is counterproductive. In the case of fasting, where there is much misunderstanding, rest is mandatory. The electrolyte scare relates to people's folly in fasting and not getting vitals checked and responded to. A PROPERLY conducted fast is the most efficient way to restore normal function and interstitial fluid components. There has been substantiation of results with medically supervised fasting that show it to be a viable solution to many conditions. I'm not saying it's the easiest method to do properly and follow up or a cure for anything. Just that it has more merit than dosing oneself with medications and following up with a continued assault on our bodies to take care of themselves, which by the way, is the way we all recover... regardless. A doctor may put a cast around your broken bone but your body is the force that creates new tissue. Good luck on whatever approach one undertakes. Peace http://www.healthpromoting.com/Home/home.htm A place I've been to that does it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats Olsson. Posted March 31, 2004 Author Share Posted March 31, 2004 You guys are the best! I'm not at home right now, checking the mail at a terminal at the hotel. Will talk to you more later when I get back home. Thanks for all great soothing words. /Mats PS No fever or pain. http://www.lexam.net/peter/carnut/man.gif What do we want? Procrastination! When do we want it? Later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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