toad Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 You know I'm using the control pedal for the piano volume, and of course the swell won't ever go down all the way, so I'm always having to turn off the perc. then the organ volume buy hand. I tried changing and modifing the organ program with no luck. I can't be the only one that uses left foot for swell and right for piano vol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKey Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 What end result are you looking for? Fade from piano to organ? Fade both the same? Fade both in the same direction independently of each other? You can use the control pedal to control the organs volume. Then the expression pedal "expresses" up to that volume setting. You can also use the pedal (or wheel) to control in the opposite direction. Up is down.... Oh yeah, which Nord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 I Have a Nord stage compact. I want independent foot volumes between the organ and piano sections. I need the volumes to be hands free, no morph blend or wheels. When the control pedal controls organ volume it hogs the piano volume right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKey Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 If you want totally independent control of the sections via 2 foot controllers, the Stage doesn't offer that with it's two control inputs. You might look into MIDI Solutions for their Pedal Controller. Then assign it to the MIDI volume control number of the organ section (MIDI Control # 100). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 Cool, I bet that'll work! I'll check it out. thanks for responding fast. I'm snowed in here in N.E. Oklahoma hangin' in the music room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Er, why can't you plug a pedal into the swell input to control organ volume, and another pedal into the control input to control piano volume via assigning a morph? Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicaL Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Coz if I understand the issue correctly, he wants the organ volume to go down to 0 which the swell pedal doesn't do!! aL Gear: Yamaha MODX8, Mojo 61, NS2 73, C. Bechstein baby grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 I do, and when ever you use the swell input to control organ volume it won't go to "0" volume just like a B-3. Therefore if I'm in a piano patch w/organ, I can't get rid of the organ(fast enough)if I need to. If the band is playing real loud it's not too big of a deal, but if it's piano solo time off the cuff from the leader, I want the faster, less thinking way of killing the organ sound. I've got the habit of using my left foot for organ volume (swell) and my right foot for the piano section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridog6996 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 One way to stop the organ sound is to simply take your fingers off the keys and switch to piano. Just sayin' My YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 I'm adding texture to the band by swelling and bringing up piano volumes etc. One good thing about the Nord is that it is multi-timberal and I like having the ability to bring in sounds more smoothly, unlike the KORG SV-1 that abruptly transitions between it's own sounds. I don't want to be clanking around patch changes during songs. I'm going for the illusion of two keyboard players in the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 How about this. Set up piano on Panel A and Organ on Panel B. Then you can just switch with a single button push. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 How about this. Set up piano on Panel A and Organ on Panel B. Then you can just switch with a single button push. Never mind, you said hands free. Then you must use a true volume pedal for organ, bring it out a separate output, and mix it in your amp. You will lose the expression feature, which changes tone and overdrive as volume changes. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 well that could be an alternative to the midi pedal adapter idea, since I am running a separate out to the rotary anyway, in fact I'm gonna do that right now to see what the gain and freqs do. I'll snag it from my ole' CV chop set-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 What is kinda neat is that I forgot to un-plug the organ Swell, and I could'nt hear anything so I checked the cords again on the ernie ball pedal but I must have hit the swell pedal a little and the volume came up with a good growl that caught me by surprize! So for now I'm gonna play around with three volumes pedals. 1. piano 2. organ swell 3.master organ(ernie ball)There's gotta be a joke in there somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I know a guy that layers the piano and organ on his Stage, and plays harder to get the piano sound and plays lighter to get organ. I don't know how much pedal he uses, probably not much. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clpete Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Can't you change the pedal function to volume instead of expression in the patch? We play for free. We get paid to set up and tear down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Somtimes I layer piano and organ together on the XK3. When I want the organ to disappear completely, you know what I do? Push in the drawbars real quick. Takes a split second. Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Push in the drawbars real quick. Takes a split second. But not on a Nord! Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridog6996 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Push in the drawbars real quick. Takes a split second. But not on a Nord! Just make it one of the drawbar presets My YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 No, swell is swell or should I say, not so swell! Actually the third rocker pedal works great, but it's just more stuff to hook-up at gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I'm going for the illusion of two keyboard players in the band. Then a second board might be in order? Especially for organ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifton Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 I'm going for the illusion of two keyboard players in the band. Then a second board might be in order? Especially for organ. Or, I should say, since you have a NSC, maybe have a another weighted board for pianos? Or just MIDI a weighted board in to Panel A? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 Yeah, I am using another board, a SV-1 73 on the bottom. And I do apreciate everybodys input, and have gotten some great ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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