Still Learning Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 So I'm playing around with chord progressions, in different keys and different inversions/voice leadings and I'm talking with a friend at work about a cool I vi IV V (G Em C D) [Start with G in second inversion, then simply move the low D to E for the Em in root position, then down to a Cmaj in root and a Dmaj in root which leads back to the Gmaj in second inv. by moving the two upper notes]....Anyway...my friend (a guitar guy) goes; "Oh the old ice cream progression". and I'm thinking to myself, "The what progression?" but sure enough, Wikipedia confirms the term ice cream progression" So here is question #1 for you. What other common (or semi-common) progressions have cute names associated with them? Question #2. Any unique chord progression names for specific areas of the World? (i.e. Southern U.S., African, Indian, Oriental, Nordic?) Oh yeah, the title of this thread comes from a cool little app I found called the HotFrets Progressionator! When most people go to work, they work. When musicians go to work, they play. Which do you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Not cute, but there's Parker changes, Coltrane changes, Rhythm changes, Indiana changes, etc... A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Learning Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Minus 3 on style points kanker, You've got to list the progression (i.e. I IV V) ALONG with it's name for it to be accepted in this highly scientific data gathering experiment! When most people go to work, they work. When musicians go to work, they play. Which do you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Indiana changes occur once a week when someone from Indiana bathes and changes their clothes. Looking at your avatar, you DO know that spongebob is from Indiana, right? Kanker and I went through this months ago. Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonksDream Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Yep, I've also heard it called "Heart and Soul" at jam sessions. That progression is used everywhere and someone will say: "Heart and Soul in F". And don't forget the Rhythm Bridge, usually starting on the III7 chord: III7 - VI7 - II7 - V7 (All chords dominant 7ths and usually lasting one bar) In C: E7 - A7 - D7 - G7 In practice you'll hear "Rhythm bridge starting on F7" or some such. It's best to be explicit because when they're learning a tune on the stand is no time to make musicians do math Instrumentation is meaningless - a song either stands on its own merit, or it requires bells and whistles to cover its lack of adequacy, much less quality. - kanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Parker changes are basically a way to get from the I to the IV in an 8 bar or blues form | I | viiø III7 | iv II7 | v I7 | IV | (or a variety of sub variants) Trane changes sub for a ii V7 I | ii bIII7 | bVI VII7 | III V7 | I | Rhythm and Indiana are long forms - not going there, look em up A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Indiana changes occur once a week when someone from Indiana bathes and changes their clothes. Looking at your avatar, you DO know that spongebob is from Indiana, right? Kanker and I went through this months ago. Listen Mr. St. Louis - you better watch what you say or I'll have to kick your tail when I play BB's Jazz Blues and Soups Sept 6.... A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangefunk Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Genuine question.. Kanker, what exactly is iivø? A mistake? I see its a half diminished but what would iiv represent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizzle Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Genuine question.. Kanker, what exactly is iivø? A mistake? I see its a half diminished but what would iiv represent? I think he meant viiø It's not a clone, it's a Suzuki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLaw Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I think he meant viiø Yep, and one post earlier MonksDream wrote IV7 instead of VI7. Some kind of Roman Dyslexia seems to be going around. Larry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Pierce Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I've never heard this progression called "Ice Cream Changes". Around here, guys just call it "Doo Wop Changes". Although a lot of the tunes use the ii instead of the IV. And we tend to color them up a lot more than the old-school recordings. like: Imaj9 - vi7 - ii7 - V7b9 Or in 4's: Imaj9 - vi7 - ii7 - V7b9 Imaj9 - vi7 - ii7 - V11 Imaj9 - vi7 - ii7 - V7b9 Imaj9 - vi7 - ii7 - bIImaj7 --Dave Make my funk the P-funk. I wants to get funked up. My Funk/Jam originals project: http://www.thefunkery.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iLaw Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Can we name these the Pachelbel changes? I...|V...|vi...|iii...|IV...|I...|IV...|V...| I think the has established the ubiquity of this progression. Larry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Genuine question.. Kanker, what exactly is iivø? A mistake? I see its a half diminished but what would iiv represent? I think he meant viiø Exactly. You'd think since i quit smoking pot nearly 20 years ago that I'd be able to think straight by now.... A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonksDream Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I think he meant viiø Yep, and one post earlier MonksDream wrote IV7 instead of VI7. Some kind of Roman Dyslexia seems to be going around. Larry. Oops! Corrected. Instrumentation is meaningless - a song either stands on its own merit, or it requires bells and whistles to cover its lack of adequacy, much less quality. - kanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Exactly. You'd think since i quit smoking pot nearly 20 years ago that I'd be able to think straight by now.... Dude, you're lucky you can balance your checkbook with what's left up there. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 HOw about "I will survive" changes? I think there are at least 50 songs that have that progression. Custom handmade clocks: www.etsy.com/shop/ClockLight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 All responses must be phrased in the form of a question No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephonic Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 A lot of African -especially Congolese- music is based upon I-IV-I-V And it works everytime! local: Korg Nautilus 73 | Yamaha MODX8 away: GigPerformer home: Kawai RX-2 | Korg D1 | Roland Fantom X7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridog6996 Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 There's the old "Sears Bridge," sometimes also known as the "Montgomery Ward Bridge," which is used in countless standards. It goes I7, IV7, ii7, V7 There's the "Omnibus" Progression, which is just easier to link to then try and chart it out here: Link The "Ragtime" progression is just dominant chords using the cycle of fifths, but was used quite often in (you guessed it) ragtime music. C example: E7, A7, D7, G7, C Also, Scriabin's "Mystic chord" which, as the name implies, isn't a progression per se, just a single chord. Basically a 13(#11), but voiced in a particular way, for example, on C: C, F#, Bb, E, A, D. Common ending changes and/or licks: The "Basie" ending, "Take the A Train" ending, and the ol' "Shave and a Haircut." My YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Sometimes it's fun to select a pattern/progression and just run with it. down a m3, up a half, down a m3, up a half, etc. Just a quick example, but you see what I mean. Couple leading tones/scale tones and it's instant music.... http://www.bellmusicproductions.com/clientdownloads/sixths.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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