Synthoid Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 We're doing a cover of The Monkeys, "I'm a Believer" for a picnic this summer, and I figured it would be a piece of cake. We're all familiar with the beginning of this song--the organ sound, the simple repeating guitar notes... Here it is if you don't recall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfuBREMXxts Anyway, the guitar player hasn't managed to figure those notes out yet. I'm not a guitar player, but should this be that difficult? When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 As long as for the keyboard part, you're not mimicking what Tork was shown doing in that video. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 He's probably being thrown by the rhythm of the notes, unless he can't hear V/I. Just play it yourself, since it seems you may not have "a guitar player". No one's going to rush the stage and demand to know why the guitar player didn't play it. CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/stevekessler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I'm not much of a guitar player (barely good enough to play a little Rhythm where appropriate), but I picked up my guitar just now and figured it out in about 10 sec. I wouldn't use this to knock guitar players - I'm sure most would consider that song child's play. This is a specific guitar player issue. Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 I wouldn't use this to knock guitar players - I'm sure most would consider that song child's play. This is a specific guitar player issue. That's what I figured... When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdownton Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 This is a very straight froward riff on guitar. Your guitar player probably hasn't bothered to listen to the track to pick out the riff and is just going by memory. Keys: Kurzweil PC3 & PC1se, Nord Electro 2, Roland HP603 Guitars: Strat Plus, Les Paul Std, Martin DC-16RGTE Amps: Mackie SRM450, Fender Cyber Twin & Studio 85, Traynor Block 12, Boss GT-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDP Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I would be prepared, with a proper patch of course, to throw that rif in if the guitar player goes blank. At rehearsal he will likely see what you play and just copy you rather do nothing....I'm guessing you are talking about the 3 note rif (D,E,G) that Nesmith is leading into the verse with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Save time; show them the part. Pro players learn quickly or accept what they're shown. d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 OK, I haven't heard the song in at least 10 years. But as I recall the organ plays G then G7 twice (no third) C triad twice (2nd inversion) G triad (root inversion) followed by the guitar playing CDF CDF D. Do I win a cookie? Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 C'mon, obviously this thread should be titled "Crappy Musicians -- oy!". Any bad musician, regardless of instrument, could have been the object of your ire. It's not about the instrument, obviously. So don't be a musical racist. Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Wouldn't that term be "instrumentalist"? d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Wouldn't that term be "instrumentalist"? That's what I started writing, then looked at it, and then laughed. Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StartRun Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 ...nice electric piano sound out of the Vox Continental, too. (har-har-har)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Nathan Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 We're doing a cover of The Monkeys, "I'm a Believer" Maybe it's not an issue of ability but one of dignity Don't rush me. I'm playing as slowly as I can! http://www.stevenathanmusic.com/stevenathanmusic.com/HOME.html https://apple.co/2EGpYXK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDP Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I gotta agree with this point......If the theme is music from late 60's, why not something a little more "groovy" like this: Wow, I think these guys might be High on something! Do you think the guitar player can handle it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Cool, he's playing a Nord! What we record in life, echoes in eternity. MOXF8, Electro 6D, XK1c, Motif XSr, PEKPER, Voyager, Univox MiniKorg. https://www.abandoned-film.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 It's not a "60's music" picnic... we're just doing the Monkey's song for the kids. When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDP Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Dang, on closer inspection, it appears that he is using OMG a genuine Sears Silvertone guitar! Along with the Nord, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d halfnote Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Wouldn't that term be "instrumentalist"? That's what I started writing, then looked at it, and then laughed. I think I meant "instrumentist". d=halfnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahZark Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 I had a similar issue with a guitarist once. The guy could only play chords. No riffs. Ask him to play an Am or a G7, and he's fine. But play anything that required an actual riff, and he just couldn't do it. Obviously, that severely limited the amount of material we could play. I no longer play with that guitarist. Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I'm like that, all I can do is strum chords. But I don't even consider myself a guitar player and wouldn't consider presenting myself to a band as one. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahZark Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I'm like that, all I can do is strum chords. But I don't even consider myself a guitar player and wouldn't consider presenting myself to a band as one. Ditto, and ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcD Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 When my current band writes songs, we usually base them around chords, instead of riffs. I'd like to get a bit more melodically creative, but the guitarist and bassist aren't formally trained like I am, so explaining licks to them can be very frustrating. I suppose in a modern-influenced rock band, you don't need to go very far beyond 3 or 4 major chords anyway, but it'd be nice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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