mdrs Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Well, what they did wasn't smart. There was no reason for it. They get no positive payoff. I get no positive outcome. We all lost. It was just stupid. Plain and simple. Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbluesman Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Well Picker, my man, remember, I was taking photos with permission of the venue. So, I dont' think I got off easy, by any means. I would not photograph anyone without permission. The photos were not intended for any commercial purpose. Primarily, I would have sent them to my office computer, for my staff to view in rememberance of our office outing. BTW.....this is the same venue in which I took the Los Lonely Boys photos I posted a few weeks ago. Los Lonely Boys didn't seem to mind. It is a shame, but I, as a martial artist would have made them pay dearly to get that card. Or I would have called the police and had them settle it, one thing is I would not have given up the card easily. That is thievery and I would have pressed charges. You know although some of the guys are big, it only takes seven pounds of pressure to break knee joints, and there would have been a lot of healing going on in the Gerardo camp for the next few weeks. Once they put their hands on you (and not until then) they are yours to do with what you wish. dbm If it sounds good, it is good !! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=143231&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbluesman Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 In any case I don't like them much for the tactics they used to get the photo's. Dirt Bags. I would not go to see them in any event. dbm If it sounds good, it is good !! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=143231&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Dropped several notches in my opinion the bastards. Friggen has beens! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Dog Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 I still like the solo in Heartbreaker. Yum, Yum! Eat em up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strategery Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 I like them franch fried puh-taters....Uhmm-Hmmm. That Neil guy makes me plumb nerveous when he tawks like that....Uhmm-Hmmm. http://www.realmofdarkness.net/pranks/slingblade-3.jpg "Just play!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paully Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 YEEHAW !! Gimmee that thar camera, boy! Ya'll in big trouble now. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/goosefat/yeehaw.jpg Umm.. no offense intended Strat Paul WUDAYAKNOW.. For the first time in my life, I'm wrong again!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strategery Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 None taken....I'm laughing my A$$ off. MWAHAHAHAhahahaha Now that's a weapon of mass destruction. :D Randy http://www.nbbd.com/MiraclePhoto/images/AnimCamFlash.gif "Just play!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 PB and hubbie need photo protection, especially since they are currently such a hot item. Yeah, I hadn't thought about her in almost twenty years, much less heard her on the radio. Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Saw a "Crossroads" a few weeks ago; Pat and Martina McBride. WOW, what a show. Listened to them a lot from '79 - '82. Pat's still got it. Neil has the chops, but I could tell on Crossroads, he's one smug, cocky SOB. A lead guitar player, married to Pat Benatar, smug and cocky? Doesn't seem possible. I saw that "Crossroads." PB utterly kicked MM's butt on MM's own songs and MM loved it. Too bad you had that experience, though, Don. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 After telling a friend in management at the venue about what had transpired, he mentioned that Neil had refused to sign some posters, and he mentioned other "difficulties". He used the word "Diva" when discussing Neil. I had nothing but total respect for him and her prior to "the incident". I am still waiting to get my card back. But, not holding my breath. Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesape Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 That absolutely blows! Sorry that happened to ya, Don. I gotta salute ya for being an awesome boss, taking your staff out to what should have been a great event. Never a DUH! moment! Well, almost never. OK, OK! Sometimes never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strategery Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Yep, you'd be a great person to work for but, like you, that really would piss me off. It's almost like after all these years of really admiring that band...especially having seen them kick ass and act super nice, just to have them turn Hollywood, is a major let down. I guess they finally caved in to the pressure. Randy It's times like these where Photo Shop comes in real handy...right Neil? "Just play!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILLO Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 I'm sorry to hear about that, Don. Not be antagonistic, but I always ask myself: why do we always expect artists or professionals we admire on their field to also be nice people? From the beginning of the thread some people pointed out how nice they seemed, etc. Does it matter, if the reason we like them is b/c of their music or their playing? All that aside, I think it was crappy especially since you weren't told this couldn't be done. Bad communication between venue management and artists' management? "Without music, life would be a mistake." --from 'Beyond Good and Evil', by Friedrich Nietzsche My MySpace Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Yes Neil's ego is so huge that now he has to have his name on the marquee with Pat's. I think that's a total joke and I'm sure the average Joe Classic rock fan doesn't even know who he is. She is the brand name, not Neil, even though he was such a huge contributor to her stuff. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Yes Neil's ego is so huge that now he has to have his name on the marquee with Pat's... She is the brand name, not Neil, even though he was such a huge contributor to her stuff. John Yeah, or she loves him and thinks he should get more credit. God only knows. But their management seem to be poo-heads. Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILLO Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Well, how many times have you seen that type of pop singer making the arrangements herself, etc.? No doubt the whole thing is much as his as it is hers, if not more HIS. I don't see a problem w/ that. So, the dude's an a-hole, but the fact they have his name on the bill doesn't make him a diva. He sure sounds like an idiot, though. "Without music, life would be a mistake." --from 'Beyond Good and Evil', by Friedrich Nietzsche My MySpace Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 He's just another one of thousands of good guitar players, he just happened to marry the right singer LOL!! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Geezer Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 WOW, i wondered why a thread about Benetar could jump to 5 pages. That is a truly sh&^%ty situation Doc. SO i guess thaere was no meet & greet for the folks in the VIP lounge Lynn G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 "SO i guess thaere was no meet & greet for the folks in the VIP lounge" Well they should have one!....Just imagine how many memory cards they could collect! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted August 16, 2007 Author Share Posted August 16, 2007 "SO i guess thaere was no meet & greet for the folks in the VIP lounge" Well they should have one!....Just imagine how many memory cards they could collect! LMAO!! If we'd had a "meet and greet", I suspect Neil would not have needed a memory card to remember me with....... They can prohibit photography, and I would not mind at all. They can put who ever they want on their marquee, and I would not mind. They are not nubies. They should have a clearly defined rule about photography, and I'd think that it's their obligaion to make sure the venue is aware of it. If it's that important to them that they'd man handle me the way they did, you'd think they'd have made sure the venue was in compliance with their "photography rule". The venue clearly told me that non flash photography was permited. In spite of the venue clearly stating that there was "no flash photography" allowed, there were, in fact, many flashes as the evening went by. Cursiously, nothing was ever said about it. I never used a flash. So, there is simply no logic to what happened. I believe that someone over reacted and "ordered" the road manager to "get the film". Why would Neil or Pat do this?? The only thing I can think of is that they saw the big telephoto lens, and thought I was a professional photographer. I clearly identified myself to the road manager, and gave him my card. He knew I was not a pro, and that I had no thoughts of selling the photos. The venue's secruity guys know me as well. So, in the end, it's just a stupid move by Neil or Pat, that benefitted no one. It did upset my staff, and pissed me off. I think that's about all that was actually accomplished. And, I'm still waiting for my card. The road manager gave me his word he'd delete only photos from that show, then send the card back to me. So, it's been a week. Let's see if he's a man of his word. BTW, I don't really blame him, personally. He was obviously ordered to "get the film". I'll keep you posted. Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 ROTLMAO!!! I was wondering if sending their manager a link to this thread, and the sh!tty way Pat 'n' Neil (or their management) came across might not prompt some action. A quick apology or at least fast-tracking the return of the memory card. But their management site is unfinished and contains a link to a nutrition company(!) and to his eBay auctions (double !) How mickey mouse is THAT? http://www.belchiasso.com/ Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted August 16, 2007 Author Share Posted August 16, 2007 LOL....yea, Vince. I took note of the state of their web site. I sure don't want any health food from them just now... LOL I've started to write them either an e mail, or a letter on my practice letterhead, several times. I've decided to give the guy a chance to return the card, as he promised he would. Until then, I'll not contact them. If I don't get the card in another 7 to 10 days, I'll get active. Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 If I don't get the card in another 7 to 10 days, I'll get active. Let us know what happens Don. Maybe we could arrange quite a few emails from the forum members, to show our displeasure with how they handled things. I'm sure there is an email for someone who was involved, that we could track down. I love Vince's idea of sending them a link to this thread as well. Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trucks Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Don't forget to try out some data recovery software on the card when you get it back Don Soundclick Myspace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Don't forget to try out some data recovery software on the card when you get it back Don WOAH!!.....can that work Trucks??? http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trucks Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 "Sometimes" There is a higher chance of getting the stuff back if they have simply deleted them, and nobody has written any new files the disk since. Soundclick Myspace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILLO Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I'm sure there is an email for someone who was involved, that we could track down. I love Vince's idea of sending them a link to this thread as well. +1 "Without music, life would be a mistake." --from 'Beyond Good and Evil', by Friedrich Nietzsche My MySpace Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strategery Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I sent them a link to this thread about 4 days ago and I also expressed my displeasure as well. Normally, when an email is returned, it's almost instantly. But this one came back 2 days later. Weird. Oh well. Randy "Just play!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 "Sometimes" There is a higher chance of getting the stuff back if they have simply deleted them, and nobody has written any new files the disk since. Hey! Great idea Trucks. I have a few programs for file recovery. I bet they'd be able to recover the cards. It would depend if they erase the pictures (which they would have to do, if they were leaving the other pictures in tact), or format the card (In which case it would be almost impossible to get the pics back.) Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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