DroptopBroham

After reading this thread, I am going to start sitting full time. Like most I've been sitting for jazz and funk gigs and standing for cover band stuff. On a few longer cover band gigs that were around 4- 5 hours I used a tall stool and sort of halfway sat/stood. With the cover band I also play rhythm guitar on a good number of songs. For rehearsals I always sit. Why am I even standing. I think from here on out I sit. Much better control over the expression pedal. Saw Brian McKnight last summer and his keyboardist was sitting on a tall stool playing a Montage 7 on top of a Montage 8 and when Brian played solo at the keys, a Montage 8, he also used a tall stool where it was almost like standing. That's where I got my idea to use a stool for the longer gigs. But a regular height bench is much more comfortable. Sun Ra sat so I'm gonna sit too.

The new Roland KC's are the bee's knees. The 400 and 600 sound great. Like @drawback, I'd like to see a smaller stereo amp than the 990 but something with 300watts and 2 - 10" speakers I think would be ideal. The Traynor K4 is a solid choice too but the new KC's sound better.

He's right, you certainly are biased. You like the synth but dislike the way it's marketed, let me guess you like Bud Light but disliked their marketing effort too. If you like the beer, drink it. If you like the synth, play it. Who cares about marketing campaigns? Korg's marketing for the Kronos was pretty stupid but that didn't change the fact that it was an awesome workstation (not awesome enough to pull me from Yamaha but still).

Why wouldn't you just play an A13 and call it a day? If it sounds too thicc for you on organ, drop the 9th. What am I missing here?

Depends on what your using it for but if you are just playing at your house a pair of 8 or 10 inch monitors would be the way to go. But if you are gigging and using it for your main sound it's hard to go wrong with the newer Roland KC's, I made the jump and they are fantastic. The KC600 and 400 sound so much better than the previous iterations it's scary. There were two issues with the older Roland models, they sounded boomy and they sounded a stuffy/boxy. Also a lot of people were just using one of them. For acoustic piano you want to use two KC400's stereo linked, you can thank me later. And don't forget to engage the Shape button, works magic. The KC600 is still a little bass heavy for acoustic piano and too large and heavy to run in stereo which is important for AP. For years I ran PPA's from ElectroVoice to JBL and they did sound good, better than the keyboard amps at the time for AP but were lacking punch and body for synth, organ and EP's. With the new KC series you've got the best of both worlds, amazing clarity and definition for AP and the body, weight, and punch for synths, organs and EP's. Not to mention they are louder and project more than the PPA speakers ever did, if you need that. Plus you get amazing connectivity with all the inputs and mic input on line one. Like I said for AP's two KC400's in stereo is the ticket. If you are playing mostly synth, organ, and EP's a single KC600 is the way to go. I've run two setups, a KC600 for cover band gigs where AP is maybe 10% of what I play and a stereo KC400 setup where AP is like 60% and EP 40% for the jazz group. I'm much happier with the KC's than I was with my PPA setup. The only advantage the PPA's have at this point is their lower weight.

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This guy smh. Behringer had nothing to do with Moog being run into the ground after Bob Moog passed. Bob was about innovation and moving forward with the Voyager and affordable Lil Phatty. He didn't want to reissue the D. He dies and then they just repackage the same synth 10 ways, reissue the D as a cash grab and create that oscillating abortion Moog One for 10k. The management after Bob died was just milking every last drop out of the Moog name before selling out to a conglomerate. The Behringer D killed Moog Music puhleaze. Their CEO killed them. Behringer D is stealing sales from the 5k Moog Model D. And this guy's take that hardware synths are a luxury and you should be using VSTs and plugins to make music wouldn't generate sales for Moog either. Then he praises Arturia who have the Mini V which itself is a clone of the D and in the basically the same thing as the Behringer D. His logic is flawed af. This dude just used Moog management cashing out as a premise to do a hit piece on Behringer. The video doesn't get into the real reasons why Moog sold out but spends like 80% of the time bashing Behringer. And now Sweetwater is supposed to be evil too? C'mon man. If these cheap Behringer synth were that amazing and potent, why hasn't Roland collapsed under the multi-pronged assault of Behringer's 808, 909 and TB303 clones? The management who scuttled the ship was Moog's CEO plain and simple. They tried to position themselves as the Louis Vuitton of the synth universe in a world with runaway inflation, mired wages and gigs paying the same as 20 years ago. Gouging and ripping off your customers is not a sustainable business model. It's a shame they ran it into the ground. Maybe with Inmusic the Moog name will live on in bluetooth speakers and motorcycle sound systems like they did Marshall. The guy in the video is an uninformed, biased, idiot with a hard on for Behringer for some reason. Lots of synth makers and software synths doing the D thing, but this guy gives them a pass and encourages their use. Weak sauce video.

That sounds like they addressed my only issue with it. Mine doesn't have the cable hook like a lot of the Korgs and Numas come with. IEC would be great. Playing the Mojo sitting down is no problem because the brick is on the floor but standing with it on the second tier that brick is dangling about 8" above the ground, weak sauce. They just needed a longer cord back then.

Okay I take that back then, I do have something against Suzuki Music, they are just trying to cash in on the Hammond name. Suzuki motors I love, innovative and affordable. I do love both Yamahas though, Yamaha Music puts out some great horns and keyboards and pianos that are affordable and Yamaha Motors makes killer reliable motorcycles. Just wish they would've kept producing the Eluder. Really the only issue I have with the Mojo 61 is the freaking dental floss inspired power cable. I need to tie it off to my x-stand. Putting the Mojo on the second tier with the power brick dangling makes the power cut out during gigs and you have to wiggle around the barrel to get in going again but soundwise it's all balls. Sounds amazing running through a 3300.

Prophet X.

The Crumar Priests are just following the money or free gear like they did when they were shilling for Crumar. How many different clonewheels did Joey D pimp out bitd (RIP) not to mention the P. Mauriat saxes from Taiwan. The Mojo smokes the XK5, that's clear. The Numa Organ 2 also spanks the XK5 but the overdrive isn't as killer as the Mojo's. The XK5 is solid but way overpriced when compared to the Mojo and Numa. I've got nothing against Suzuki, I have an M109R that I love and had a Hayabusa 20 years ago. Their bikes are badass and affordable, their organs are meh and overpriced. You are just paying for a name like you do with Harley and Indian.

MODX+AT, a total game changer. That Matt guy from Jamiroquai recently mentioned that he had been filming a video for Yamaha but that it was top secret. He must've been putting the new AT through its paces.

I've used the FC7 with the OG Mojo, the 61 and the Classic with no problems. The Roland pedal also works with all (smaller lighter , more expensive, not as good feel as the Yamaha). Have the Roland in the gig bag with the 61 for keeping it light. Yamaha at home and on the MOD+ so I know which pedal does what. The Yamaha sustain pedals and switches do need polarity reversed.

Yikes. Hopefully Ms. Cleo's understudy will make short work of fulfilling the keytar orders when she's not informing her clients that they man be cheating girl.

CK88 in a heartbeat over the MX88. But it really depends on what you want to do with it. If you are looking to play pianos, eps, b3 and synth type stuff with a band, the CK is the way to go. The keybeds are similar with no significant difference in feel, I like the AP's a little better on the CK and everything else is much better with real time controls and easier to split and layer. If you're just looking to lay down tracks in your home studio then you could save a few hundred and get the MX where you could use VB3 and soft synths from your computer with it. But for playing live, the real time control of the CK puts it in a different league. They both sound good though, it really depends on what you want to use it for but I'd go with the CK in either situation it's not that much more expensive.

Just checked out Sweetwater and Guitar Center and what did I find? GC has Harbinger powered PA speakers with three channels plus bluetooth. 2 hondos for the 8. Never seen anything with more than 2 channels until now. What's the word on Harbinger? Is that GC's store brand? Are they on par with Alto and Behringer or lower on the food chain? I've got a GC about 60 miles from me, tempted to make a run.

Just a few thoughts and clarifications. Was able to have a mini-shootout yesterday with my Numa X playing through a pair of 8" JBL powered PA speakers, the Traynor K4 and a Fender Rumble 100 (the new light as a feather one with the 12" speaker). I'd have to say order of sound quality was JBL, K4, with the bass amp last. Acoustic piano was maybe 6/10 on the JBLs, usable but nothing great, 5/10 on the K4 and 1/10 on the Rumble. Synth and strings sounds were about 9/10 with JBL, 8/10 on the K4 and 1/10 on the Rumble. With Rhodes and Wurly though all amps sounded really good, like 8 or 9 out of 10 good, the Rumble was a solid 8 here. That old Behringer I had around 20 years ago was a K900FX with the 12" speaker. I remember it being weak for AP but decent for organ, synth and EPs. I was in a trio and used it at parties and restaurants but stuck to EP since APs sounded like garbage. The band I'm looking to use this as a rehearsal amp for is a standard issue cover band so I need everything to sound decent not just EPs. At rehearsal, the volume levels are low so even something like a 60 watt amp would likely be more than enough. My budget here is cheap like under 400 cheap. This is something I want to leave at a rehearsal space and would be using once a week. Really thinking about just grabbing another 8" PA speaker like the Alto which is really cheap and throw out my dream of running my vocals through it. Bringing in a small mixer to run my voice and two boards through is a bridge too far. I don't want the expense or cable nightmare and then have to find a place for it to plug in and sit on. The KXD's look pretty much the same as the old amps, so based on your response and how the Rumble sounded I guess they sound the same too. I don't need the best fidelity, but I don't want synth and AP to sound thin and lifeless either like a wet transistor radio.

Thanks for the responses. I agree that the Rolands are heavy but the Behringers are lighter, around the same as a powered PA speaker. weight isn't much of an issue since the plan is to leave it at the rehearsal room. Really would like decent sound and something cheap just for rehearsals. Those EVs are like $550, my budget would be 300 to 400 and mono is fine. If the Alto TS412 sounds better than the KXD15, I guess I'll roll with the Alto. My only issue is with a dual keyboard rig, I'd have to run my mic to the main board but that isn't too big of a deal. Moonglow, why do you prefer to use the KXD over your EV for rehearsals and parties if the EV sounds better and is lighter? I'm looking at getting the amp or speaker for the same scenarios.

I know the consensus here from time immemorial is that powered PA speakers is the way to go for keyboard amplification but is that still the case? At the home studio I am using a pair of JBL's for practice and jamming and for playing out am using my Traynor K4 for a monitor while going out to FOH but question is mainly for rehearsal. Would like to get something cheap to leave at the rehearsal space, drummer uses an electronic kit in there so the volume levels are tame. Was thinking of picking up a cheap PA speaker like an Alto but reading reviews on Swater the Behringer KXD and Roland keyboard amps are getting rave reviews. Rolands are too pricy so looking at the KXD12 or 15. The thing that is swaying me is that a few of the reviews say how the KXD blows away what they were getting from their QSC and other PA speakers. I really don't have any place to try them out in person, Gcenter doesn't carry Behringer anymore. I had one of their keyboard amps about 20 years ago and it was a little better and significantly cheaper than the Roland equivalent at the time. What's the current state of these keyboard amps, have they improved to where they are on par with a powered PA speaker? I like the price and input, eq and output configuration better on the KXD which is why it is tempting. Are they now basically just powered PA speakers themselves with more ins and outs eq and effects? It's like you're getting the speaker and a small mixer all-in-one with no extra power chord or cables. I like the convenience. Would also be running a mic for occasional backing vocals. Does anyone have any experience with the recent Behringers and Rolands?

This has me bummed, studied online/correspondence with him several years ago. He was a really nice guy and I was waiting for more him to come out with more DVDs.