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I've managed to largely avoid using iLok for my foundation software products, and had just a few plugins which usually had up to 3 registrations available, so no need to swap back and forth between computers, and not worried when I de-register a computer I have decommissioned.
But as I recently started getting into East West Libraries, I am now faced with being able to have only one computer authorized.
So my question is, if I de-register my main computer to swap to my laptop temporarily while I'm away, can I then de-register the laptop when I get home and re-register my studio computer?
In other words, do they allow the swapping back and forth between computers like when using the USB dongle?
I am reluctant to use a dongle, because I understand that if you lose or break it, you've lost your license, whereas the iLok cloud license can be retrieved by the vendor.
I'm paranoid about this, as there is a lot of money invested in these products, and I don't want to risk being left high and dry for all that cash outlay. Also my Pianoteq licence, (not iLok, in house Modartt), doesn't allow re-registering a computer which has previously been removed. (Though the guys at Modartt told me that if I contact them, they can remove the deleted computer from the deleted list so that I can reuse it), but it sounds a bit of a hassle.
So, I'm hoping this is a simple answer from those that do the same thing.👍
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30 minutes ago, b3plyr said:
They do use modeling to add other AP characteristics. And they do it well.
I think this is a good combination of technology they've chosen, because it allows the addition of older piano sample libraries, which after being cleaned up can have the benefits of the modelling added. I find this the case for the excellent Steinway B211 Tape, and find it very easy on the ears.😀
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On 5/30/2023 at 3:42 AM, RABid said:
the collector's version is almost 1TB. The problem is magnified by the fact that if you buy a new computer you cannot just copy the install from the old computer. If you do the Native Access install and licensing program does not recognize them as valid installs. You have to download and install everything from scratch. On a rural DSL like I have that can take a month.
This is not my experience. I just fresh install Native Access on the new computer. I just login and it uses your logged in account info to tell you what software is registered and, I then just go through all the libraries and locate the new directory path. I've done this more than once. To have to re download 1TB every time would not be acceptable.
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8 hours ago, Melving said:
Sigh. I've hung up my VPC-1 (highbrow) for an RD-2000 (lowbrow). I hereby demote myself from pianist to keyboardist... The RD 2000 was used from GC but cleaned up pretty well. At some point I'll probably refine my slightly bumpy paint job. My overall impression of Rolands and Yamahas as invulnerable to all harm stands. Relatively speaking of course...
Just curious, why did you stop playing your VPC-1? I recently sold my MP11SE, and it was more to do with me than the instrument.
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I went to look at considering the Patreon support, but with my exchange rate it is $101/month or 1,212.00/ year! I don't think I could pay a subscription that's over $1,000 per year for anything. That gets me into annual health insurance premium territory. Is that the kind of figure that is expected for a subscription, or am I misunderstanding something? yikes!
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I wonder if you could just have an entry ad when you click on the site, which everyone has to click in order to enter. That way, every member clicks on the ad like a doorway entrance. Then maybe you could just have a pop up ad at "very long" intervals for those that don't ever leave the site for days on end, so when they sit down at the computer again, they just have to "enter" the ad doorway and the rest is business as usual. That way once you're in, you're not confronted with anymore ads, and it solves the problem of the unpredictability of people clicking on ads if they were amongst the content, because you'd get every member having to click the ad to enter.
just my two cents worth 😀
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I have a bit of a weakness for Orchestral Libraries.
I browse the big guns from time to time, and when taking into account my exchange rate, usually move on with disappointment.
Well this time, the noose tightened on me with East West Hollywood Orchestra Opus Edition. They were having a 60 percent off sale, and apparently it's not all that common. I pulled the trigger at 1:00 am in the morning! I'm a glutton for punishment, as I'm now faced with the humongous task of downloading 955GB.
Last year I upgraded to Komplete 14 CE, as some of you are doing now, which in total is similar, but lots of smaller chunks to deal with. As I already had a lot of the libraries being an upgrade, it was not that daunting, and I still haven't download everything on Native Access yet.
But.........The EW String library is over 400GB alone, as one download session item. Luckily it is segmented into separate zips, but it will be days before I'm able to finish downloading just this library to check it out. Not in favour of waiting weeks for a posted hard drive either.
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That's a very interesting story. I think I have the older Airpod Pros, and I mainly use them when playing my acoustic. They work so well over any other earplugs. They're my way of EQing the piano, as I have a bit of hyperacusis, and notes around 800Hz absolutely jar my right ear. The only drawback about the dynamic nature of them, is that if I stop playing for a few seconds, they mess the sound up for another few seconds until they get sorted again. I'm intrigued by the second gen adaptive transparency you mention.
I might have to do an update.👍
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When you say 'mapped to logic", I assume you're meaning that Studiologic will give it a menu item as a single function to map all the controllers to standard DAW functions, like many workstations/synths?
I haven't delved deeply into extensive controlling of the DAW for the Numa Piano yet, but what I can tell you is that you can already individually map with midi learn, all the front panel encoders/buttons individually. As a stage piano/controller, the functionality is upfront, meaning even if you are running onboard sounds, moving any of knobs etc will attach to a DAW function using midi learn. They seem to transmit midi simultaneously.
One of the things that appeals to me about the Numa Piano, is that other than my Kronos, it too has a joystick controller, rather than just wheels. I like being able to attach the joystick to vst x-y controllers, and the midi learn function captures them. The only thing I have to mindful to do, is to disable the mapping for pitchbend in the vst, as the x axis will simultaneous change pitch as well,
Hope this scant info helps a bit.
Some one else may be able to offer a bit more depth if they've sorted it out to more detail.
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9 hours ago, Stokely said:
I wish I'd bought the Montage for the better build quality (which is my main beef with the Modx) but it's been a workhorse for years now and keeps proving me wrong.
I originally bought a MODX8. The build quality was originally the thing that got to me too. The functionality was great, but the plasticness really got to me, and the GHS keybed was giving me problems very early on. I ended up selling it and buying a Montage8. It's built like a tank!
I also decided that I like some of the extra features, like 4 channel line outs, and the 8 levels of control surface.
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I thought I'd share my latest addition. Just couldn't resist 😊
My piano has had offspring! Must have been that stage piano I had setup nearby. The rascal!
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2 hours ago, Motif88 said:
OK, this a rant. I used to be able to go to at least 2 if not 3 music retailers to try new gear. While I used to live in NY, even if I fly to NY I can’t find any top end keyboards in a single store for demo.
So now, we are all using Sweetwater with shipping 88 key boards all over damn place just to try the damn action!
I can’t seem to find anywhere in the U.S. where I could actually play a Fantom 8, K2700, Stage 4, OB-X8, etc…yet it seems, Bonners and Anderton’s in the U.K. are able to provide such experiences.
Please don’t provide answers regarding supply chain, economy, rent, labor, carrying costs, etc.
“Times may change, standards must remain” seems to have gone out the window.
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I hear ya!
Welcome to our world down under. Been like that for some time now. I've settled on the fact that I have to buy to try. As I live in a regional area in Australia, returning it sometimes isn't even an option, as the non business freight rates are excessive. So I have to sell it off second hand, so the buyer pays the freight. It does mean I keep it for a bit of time and get to know it before deciding.
What's worse for us, is that the online shop fronts are often out of stock, so all we get to do is window shop! One thing I've noticed these days, is that it's easy for businesses to list pretty much anything on a website, as they don't tend to physically hold the stock, so it makes the business look like a bigger store than they really are.
On the upside, as Elmer mentioned, we have a synth workshop to try. Luckily I live only a few hours drive to it, so I should one day check it out. It's even closer for Aussiekeys, he lives pretty much in the same city as it.
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47 minutes ago, CEB said:
I wanted a Jupiter- 8 when it was new … really bad. But, I couldn’t afford it.
I still can’t afford it. 😀
I remember as a teenager in the 70's going in to the music shop when the Jupiter 8 was first released. There was a line up of musicians waiting to have a go. It was pretty special compared to all the previous Roland synths. When I got to have my I go, I looked at the price tag. In Australia it sold for $5,995, a lot back in the mid 70's let alone for a school boy! I sold my inherited family upright to buy a second hand Korg Mini 700. I think I paid about $180 for it. I was so disappointment with it being only monophonic. My friends and I joked about its limitations. After a couple of years I sold it. Boy do I regret that now! I bought a Roland EP20. Pretty pathetic sounding piano though, but at least I could play chords
I finally did manage to buy a Jupiter 8, (that urge never went away). I dragged my family with young kids 400km in the car, and an overnight motel, to go pick it up.
It had faulty RAM chip problems, which in the day, I was able to order the chips from Roland and fixed it. Sadly, I ended up trading it in a couple of years later on a Kurzweil K1000. Big mistake again to offload it.
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Thinking about it, I'm wondering whether this will be Apple's version of choice. Maybe, the Mac OS version will always be purchase, and the iOS version will always be subscription? Given that the Mac version is more the studio tied down version. Perhaps they will release an iOS Mainstage, aimed at the gigging iOS folk which will be purchase. Just a thought, trying to put the pieces together 😁
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2 hours ago, Nievski said:
I think the better way is for companies is to offer both a subscription and one-time purchase path for their software. Give the customers the choice; the companies win either way. For example, Logic Pro 11 - offer a one-time purchase of US$300 with free updates until the next version comes out - then charge to upgrade to Logic Pro 12. This way people can lock-in / own a specific version that's compatible with past/archived projects. They can have the peace of mind that they have a working setup that they can keep into the future, with the option to upgrade. At the same time, users who just want the newest updates can use the subscription model. It's a win-win for everyone.
That's the way Native Instruments do it. They brought out a subscription model a couple of years ago, and their was a big uproar. They assured everyone that the subscription was an addition, to give less cashed up people access to software, and that the fully paid product was not going anywhere. Let's hope they stick to their word.
I don't create music for an income. I too am subscription averse. I bought Logic Pro many years ago for other than the agreeable workflow to me, because of the fact that I had access to all the updates, and more importantly you could install it on any new Mac. That's the whole thing which swayed me. I have a paid copy of Reaper, as a backup. So if Logic ever went totally subscription, I would dump it and just use Reaper, and spent countless hours transcribing my music across I suppose 😬
One problem I have with subscription, particularly for other plugins/software, is that I tend to only use stuff occasionally and sporadically, I can't bear the thought of paying for something just to have the privilege of pulling it out of the virtual cupboard on rare occasion. But I Iike having it there when I need it.
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18 minutes ago, Chummy said:
I'm "shocked" in a good way. Because the rational is the more expensive the better - e.g comparing YC73 to Numa X, the price difference is wide. + the fact that Yamaha is so big one would assume more money dumped into R&D and the fact that they also make acoustic pianos and all sorts of other instruments and recording equipment - all that know how would somehow translate into a more quality instrument.
There's also a train of thought that says the underdog may try harder to achieve the aspirations of becoming a top dog. Often the top dogs rest on their laurels, otherwise they'd sit on top forever, which is rarely the case. With the economic fallout from the pandemic as an example, the larger companies may have more invested in one basket, with less flexibility to change tack, whereas the smaller companies are more nimble in changing sources to meet the changing circumstances.
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Yeah, I've done that too. I mainly use PT in a DAW, and have my own effects, then realise PT effects are on still.
I do it this way, because I play it in a surround concert hall environment.
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1 hour ago, JazzPiano88 said:
I would never buy a Montage 61 as a pianist, unless I suddenly wanted to not be a pianist.
With 99.999999999% of other boards, yes, you could use a different 73key or 88 key controller (Yamaha P515) and treat your 61 key board as a sound source as if it were in a midi rack.
But the Montage is 'different' and won't work in this fashion. It is not architected to be controlled. It is architected to be a controller and input to DAW.
None of its patches can be played by a controller unless that controller transmits all of the Montage parts independently on the different MIDI channels simultaneously -- A nightmare to set up, but remarkably it's an unserved market opportunity for someone to create a "Montage Library" for controller X and an SDK to easily adapt to new Montage Patches.
The outrage of Montage users upon realizing this limitation almost drove Yamaha's Bad Mister over the edge, and he's never really been the same.
I would do it, but I'm too busy on my other startup. Theo?
I'm not a Montage guru by any stretch, or maybe I'm misinterpreting what you are saying but, I play my M8 from my other keys, and the multipart programs sound exactly as if playing directly from the M8 keyboard. I just make sure I have the Midi setting on Single, not Multi, so that the different Montage parts respond to the same midi channel. If I want to control each channel separately from my DAW, I set it to Multi.
My comment seems like a MIDI 101 comment, and too obvious to miss, so I must not be fully understanding what you are saying?
I sometimes enjoy playing some of the Montage slide guitars and others programs from my MP11SE, and they have multiple parts, all of which sound.
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Might be time for me to try the iOS version. I was wondering if that already owning PT Pro 8, whether it was a separate purchase. But I interpret in the App store that you just have to enter you licence number! Yay!
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Only listening on small monitors, and am not familiar with the ios piano. At first I thought the first one was PT, but got a bit confused after you started playing the second one.
I think I liked the sound of the first piano, particularity more down in the bass register. The both sounded pretty reasonable for gigging performance though.
Not clued up enough to recognise the tune though, sorry!
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Nice Demo BTW. What are the 2 pianos? Assume they're vst's?
Sorry, probably should leave that to your proper thread!
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I just did it with Firefox, and I've got all sorts of adware and tracking plugins enabled.
I just right click copied your URL, and right click pasted into the MPN text window
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What browser are you running, is there some plugin which is preventing you?
Just did what Moonglow suggested
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How's that? Just did what Moonglow suggested
Question for PACE virtual iLok users.
in The Keyboard Corner
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Thanks, I did consider asking them a question, just thought I'd get some peer experiences here. Interesting what you say about the non iLok dongles. I thought that was the idea of the usb hardware dongles, as the activation goes with the plugin hardware.
There are many software products I would have liked over the years, but have never purchased, because of this potential issue. I know this topic has been regurgitated ad nauseam.
I'm all for the activation thing, but not the excessive heavy handed restrictions imposed on genuine customers by some vendors.
If the answer to my question is that I can swap back and forth between desktop and laptop as needed, then I'll be happy.