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Gsi Gemini is a good expander that give most realistic sound. It’s the best in organ and electric piano. It’s growing with its new acoustic piano expansion. Have a nice virtual analog synth. And other dedicated engine for the other sounds. But it’s an expander, not a keyboard. The only down is that only give two part at a time.

Loopy is good, but is made for loop mainly. It’s also auv3, You can use it inside Aum or Camelot. But it’s better to use it in foreground, not background. Like Aum, you can use Loopy if you have a few sounds to load in a gig. If you use 20/30 different sound in a entire gig it’s better and simpler Camelot, that loads only the auv3 that you need for each specific song, and not all the auv3 for the entire gig. Like mainstage.

It’s simpler with a keyboard with internal audio interface. Only 1 cable from iPad and iPhone and the keyboard and you have good audio outputs. For software, I use Camelot pro. A similar to MainStage software. You can change sounds, sheets, play backing track.

Auv3 is a lot more comfortable. I think that in a 30-40 songs set list, I use 5-6 instances of vb3, 5-6 of Korg module, 5-6 of bs 16, and 20-30 instances of various synth (now I prefer Mood, Poison 202, Synthmaster one). Without auv3 it’s impossibile to think to use all the app in background and send program changes. And there are also 10-20 instances of auv3 fx that I use. I use yamaha cp73, with its audio interface, it is a quite simple setup: iPad 8 connected with a lighting usb Bluetooth adapter, the usb go to cp73 and the lithinng cable go to power to power the iPad. Acoustic and electric piano by the Cp73, organ and synth and orchestral by the iPad. Camelot does the split/layer and sets volume levels of cp73 and auv3. In rehearsal I often use a mixface sl to quickly adjoust the volumes for each sound/song. I connect it to iPad with Bluetooth, and power it with usb of Cp73.

Before Camelot I have used Set list Maker, for scores and patch change. It’s good (you can change the range from 0-127 to 1-128 if you want). Now I use Camelot also for score, it’s ok also this. Set list Maker have the auto scroll function that is good, Camelot no, so I have to use another workflow. I use a pedal to change patch, score, and start eventually backing tracks.

I only have Camelot, and it does everything.

Numa compact 2 also have an audio interface. Class compliant. So it’s good for iPhone, iPad. It’s a good master. And the internal sound are ok, for backup.

Camelot have scenes and songs. A song can have multiple scenes, each scene is for a part of a song, a scene for verse1, chorus1, verse2, chorus2, bridge, chorus3 for example. Each scene could have different split, layer, volume. When you load a song it loads all its scenes, with their auv3 and settings. I use Camelot also to manage my cp73 sounds and splits. For each song I have not much that 2-4 auv3 sounds (plus some auv3 audio effects) plus yamaha cp73 sounds. To load song it take 2-3 seconds for big songs, but it depends from what auv3 obviously. I use sequentially scene and use a pedal to go to next scene. Into the song there is seamless transition between scene. But you can also jump from vary scenes in the song if you want (example have only 3 scenes, one for verse, one for chorus and one for bridge and go between than with program change). To tell the truth there are 3 ways to load auv3, one is per scene, so when it recall a scene it recall the auv3, one is per song (I use this method), so when it load a song it load all the auv3 (and then scenes changes are instant) and one is per “set list”, that load the auv3 one time for all the songs. You can choose, and so you can manage well the cpu and ram. Mine 8th generation iPad doesn’t go up 20-30% of cpu. It’s similar to mainstage approach. In a live I’ll use almost 30-40 auv3 sounds (plus vary effects). It would be impossible to load all at one time. I use mostly Vb3m, module, poison, obx, Zeeon, model d, beathawk, Digitalism, bs 16i, loopy, panda. And at the end there is score view and backing tracks (and you can link scenes changes in timeline of backing track, so the scenes automatically changes).

Indeed, I know a little of aum, although I did not buy it. But I read here in this thread that a lot of people use it, and I want to know why. Talking about a live gig. Ok you can use a session for each song. But if you have several setup in a single song? Example: verse with piano and strings, chorus with hammond, verse2 like verse1, than chorus2, than bridge with a synth solo, then a chorus3. How do you get this with aum? Va you change split and sounds without changing the session in aum? or you have to load session between the song (I think it isn’t immediate)? And also not score viewer and backing track load.

But how does Aum work? I don’t have it. Can do something that Camelot doesn’t?

If you use ipad mostly for music I think 64 gb is ok.

But with Android you can do 1% than what you can do with iPad…

But if you prefer semi weight action why do you want to change for a weight action? The Yc73 is a weighted action, quite light, but for example more weighted also than the nord stage 3 88 (that is the lightest weighted action around).

The rotary is the Leslie of vb3 II, that is the same of Hammond clone Crumar Mojo. On contrary the Leslie in Vb3m is the rotary of Vb3 I, that is quite old. You could use Vb3m generation with “the rotary” as a Leslie sim. Theorically it could be better than Vb3m alone. But the new apps that the Facebook post refers are: - a farfisa - a vox continental - a drum machine ‘80 - a orchestral/strings app - a Clavinet The Clavinet I think is the first dedicated app for iPad to this instrument.

I use Revencroft with Cp73 and alternate from Internal Cfx to external Ravenscroft. I don’t remind If I try various preset, but I use we to adjust sound. But Ravenscroft is inconsistent for live use, like most vst. I tried with live speakers, not headphones or monitors.

I have it, bought at half price. Not a huge fan… I don’t have the pc version, only iPad. In comparison with my cp73 I prefer the Cp by far.

Most guitar rock player play alone, Trey Anastasio play togheter the other musicians. It’s not common in a rock context. As a keyboard player I want always interplay, not a flat accompainment to a solo. I was talking about rock context, in the contrary in a jazz context there is obviously much more interplay. But I don’t like too much the sound of guitar in jazz context. And its difficoult to play with piano togheter. Only hammond have a good feeling with guitars.

Trey Anastasio

But reading the manual, at page 26, I think that if you connect a master to midi in the data will be sent to usb with the “port 2”. it is written: ” Port 2 This port is used as the MIDI Thru Port, allowing you to re-transmit MIDI data received by this instrument to an external MIDI device. This is useful, for example, when you want to connect an external MIDI device not having a USB terminal to a computer via this instrument, and so on. When you use this port, set “MIDI” to “Off ” and “USB” to “On” from the [MENU] button → “General” → “MIDI Settings” → “MIDI Port.” The MIDI data received via the USB [TO HOST] terminal will be re-transmitted to an external MIDI device via the MIDI [OUT] terminal. The MIDI data received via the MIDI [IN] terminal will be re- transmitted to an external MIDI device via the USB [TO HOST] terminal.”

I don’t know if the cp73 midi in can be sent through the usb. I never tried, and in this days I don’t have the keyboard at home… But a solution is to use a Bluetooth midi device like cme widi, and connect with this the master to iPad. So you can maintain the only one usb cable from iPad to cp. Widi it’s a useful device that can be used in many ways. Useful especially with iPad. But you have to have midi 5pin in your master.

If they don’t load it means that they aren’t in auv3 format. Maybe bias 2 is in auv3 format. Nowaday it’s a nonsense use app that aren’t auv3.

Camelot is for live playing, Aum is for studio. Camelot: - can create set list for split and layer hardware and software instruments. It loads only instruments that you need for each song. So a cpu and ram saver. - manage internal sound of hardware keyboard, with a sync between Camelot and hardware you can have the name of presets of hardware in Camelot interface. - seamless transition between scene - can do split, layer, velocity remapping, velocity filter, cc remapping and filter, it can do all you want - manage sheets and score for each scene - play backing track and you can change scene automatically when you arrive in a specific point of the backing track - other thing that I don’t use. Camelot is Italian and I’m Italian, so herr is quite a standard for all purpose keyboardist. So it is tested and affidable.

Yes, I know. I tried a lot of settings: use mono button (that for me only sums L+R) or use only L or R. The white grand with mono button is decent, but not great. But the white grand is a strange piano for me. I like more the yamaha tone, like royal d or studio grand 2.

I confirm, with yamaha Cp73, the R output is very good for CFX piano. I often play mono because it’s simpler. Can’t do this on nord pianos, that only sounds good in stereo, and I’m not monitoring in stereo (and also the listeners difficulty have a good stereo listen).

The White Grand, the last piano, is arrived in summer 2019. The last Rhodes is 2016. So I think you heard the last acoustic and electric piano of nord. Returning to the effects section, I think the amp simulator are the same of nord stage 1, how many years ago? 12? 15? I think nord should improve some things to improve: 1 - a steinway mode d or yamaha c7/cfx piano sample, with the same quality of white grand (that is a strange piano, good quality, but strange). Royal d is good, but few sustain 2 - a better Rhodes, that yamaha, korg and probably also Roland and casio are better than nord nowday 3 - better section effects, especially amp sim But in the last year very very few improvements from nord… if you don’t improve, the other brands will overtake you.