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If you have nord stage, I thing L output (output 1) is only L and not L+R. If you want mono L+R you have to push mono button, and so use R or L is the same.

There is not a limiter. If you want I think you can use your aux output with a Y cable and enter in your behringer power play. But you have to switch the “output type” to headphones. Or probably you can connect directly the Y cable to headphones output. So this only to have a limiter. (and you have to put power play in stereo mode).

@ewall08530 I have had a notepad 8fx, I don’t know if you have this model. it’s one of the few that has stereo aux. And I remember that you can listen aux in headphones. so you have to do this: - press the switch “aux” up the phones knob - insert your keyboards to stereo channel, and increase the fader of volume for your taste - insert the monitoring from Foh to a mono channel (or stereo if he send stereo signal), and put the fader of volume to minimum, null, zero. - send L and R, or what you want, to Foh. - use the aux knob to balance the volume of keyboard and monitoring, you will have the keyboard in stereo and monitoring of others instruments in mono. no need to behringer power play, you link tour headphones to soundcraft mixer directly.

@ewall08530 for me, if you use in ear, run stereo is a must. Mono piano is dull in headphones, but not in real life.

Yes, obviously you have to re pan the patch that have multiple instruments panned too left or too right. By the way this type of patches are not very “live friendly” because the public often listen only the nearer speaker, so he doesn’t hear the sound panned in the other speaker. The phasing issues in any case are only in piano patches, and also often strings. Other sounds aren’t a big problem. The hammond hasn’t phase cancellation, but Leslie seems a tremolo with L+R. Also here I still prefer only one side of Leslie.

@CHarrell When you sum two signals of the same sound source (in this example a single note of a piano reprised with standard two mics) you always have some sound frequencies cancellations, because the 2 waves are similar, but taken from different distances from the sound source, so when the waves sum up in mono the different phases of the 2 wave causes cancellation o f some frequency of sound. So for piano I prefer always make mono taking or only L or only R and at worst eq it a bit to balance the “lows on L and highs” question. No phase cancellation obviously. In any case, in my memories Yamaha always sound good in mono, also with my yamaha p70 20 years ago. but I’m not very experienced in other brands, I only had Yamaha and Nord and vst. Nord not very good in mono. I often use mono because at 90% of my gig I’m playing in front a single Speaker of my PA, generally in duo. With Nord I have never been satisfied from hearing from one speaker.

Yamaha CFX of Cp73. And use only R output. Hands down. Sounds good for me, and for every people that listen at the gig because all listen the same sound. I never like L+R because of phasing issues. Maybe also the Cfx in the app just piano or genuine sound edition can go good in mono, but I have tested it only few times.

New piano in the future: Link a Bechstein. Probably it will be in just piano. In my Cfx I hear a little mechanical noises, but in live I don’t notice them. I take off all the sustain pedal noise. The sound isn’t compressed. It’s not very far to the CFX in my Cp73. I only have to use a little lighter velocity curve.

Why unusable? The Steinway isn’t so balanced like the Cfx. However also the Steinway is good.

In This post of Facebook the said they will release (in April 2023??) a Rhodes app. Read the comments. They said that it will be different from Gemini. and they also said that not all the engine of Gemini will come out for iOS.

Maybe they change their ideas, Gsi it’s not a big company, mainly two guys I think , so they can change easily idea. However now there is Vb3 II for computer, but there isn’t rhodes. I think they like produce iOS app, and they have a politic that their apps and software always have update. In facts it’s quite sure, returning in topic, that Sooner or later m they release new piano samples, that will be available also for just piano app.

For acoustic pianos, in iOS the sample are better, bigger, than the Gemini. In iOS there isn’t Vb3 II, but only vb3 I (but there is Leslie sim of Vb3 II). Vox continental and Farfisa, Clavinet, and mini orchestra, maybe electro orchestra, I think they are quite similar between iOS and Gemini. The biggest thing is that in iOS there Isn’t the Rhodes of gemini, that is, togheter with vb3, the most famous sound of Gsi. the synth engine i don’t know if it is similar. Then there are the effects, in the Gemini there is a effect chain that can be use with any sound, there is a distortion and simulation amp for example. In the app there are often this simulations, but you can’t use them in standalone. In gemini there are generic samples that aren’t in iOS app. In iOS there are an electronic drum machine, and in short also an acoustic drum machine. So Gsi apps are greats, but the Gemini still is a very good module. The big and famous two sounds of Gsi, hammond and Rhodes, aren’t in iOS in their top version, and maybe it’s not a casuality.

Camelot can do velocity remapping. And also control change remapping. And. You can do for each song differently. I prefer to load auv3 for each song, I have iPad 8 I think. If I load 3-4 istance of poison, 7-8 of beathawk, 2 of module, 5-6 of bs16i, one of king of fm, 3-4 of Vb3, 1 of just piano, 2 of obxd, 2-3 of red animal, I can’t think that I could load them togheter. however you can also load auv3 at the start of gig and keep loading them like in aum if you want. You can choose if load an auv3 for each scene, for each song, or for each set list. but I have different layer/split for each song…I can change the range for each song. by the way, there isn’t Camelot for iPhone…

I can’t press mute in every song or in any part of the song. For this I said that Aum is for simple setup (few sounds per song, very few split). The system is completely different. In Camelot you can load only the auv3 that you need in that song. And you can do more scene for each song. (Like mainstage and other, that are vst host, Aum isn’t). example: a song with an intro with split hammond in the lower and brass in the upper. Than a verse with hammond and piano in layer. Than a rit with piano and hammond in layer and the brass in split. Than another similar verse and rit. And an ending in solo piano with no split. With aum is impossible, with Camelot is simple. You load the auv3 for this song at the beginning (not too much in this case, a piano, a brass and hammond, maybe 2-3-4 seconds to load, it depend from the piano). Than you can create a scene for each part, each sound has differente keyboard range (in Aum is more difficoult). And you can switch scene with seamless transition. (and in each scene there are attachment for sheet or other). (and you can use backing track and link your scenes to a specific point of the back line). I’m Italian and maybe for this I know well Camelot that is Italian. I see that maybe for this in US is not popular like here. However I have to say that Camelot is more complete and Aum belong to an “old style” of iPad use for music. There is not only Camelot, I think also that key stage is similar? but I don’t have it. Now I’m getting up a new band in which I use Camelot in my iPad for my keyboard sounds (and also change patch of yamaha Cp73) and to launch backing track (with scene linked to its time line). Than an other iPad of the guitarist synchronyzed through wifi with mine that automatically change the patch of his simulator amp during the song, always synchronised with the backin track. And my iPad also control a Dmx mixer for lights to change lights in synchro with the part of the song.

Aum is for simple setups. you can only use a few auv3 for the entire gig. similar to a mixer that have one sound for channel. So you load sounds that diesnt need for the song you are playing. You can load a certain number of sounds that you use for the entire gig. Until your iPad go down for too much cpu/ram use. Camelot is like mainstage, you can load only the auv3 that you need for a specific song, and not load the auv3 that use in other songs. Seamless transition in the song. (However you can also load a auv3 for the entire gig like aim if you want). So you can have much more sounds for the gig, and the iPad is not overwhelmed. (And also can manage Sheets and backing tracks). However you can also use Camelot in a simple mode like Aum. My apps: - vb3m for hammond - poison 202 for synth - module for strings (la pro extension) - bs16i (for brass) - ob-xd for pads - beathawk for bass and drum - clavinet model d6 - red animal for box continental - Loopy pro for loop and sample - vary effects I use yamaha Cp73 for hardware, so I connect only the iPad to the keyboard. I use acoustic and Rhodes from Cp73, so I don’t need app for this sounds. however I like app just piano more than Pianoteq. In the rare case I need Rhodes I use the demo of Pianoteq with fill notes from other app.

If you want to stay cheap, stable, little, but still very good audio quality, mackie vlz802. It can handle monitoring by Foh and don’t send it to its xlr outputs. So you can hear monitoring and your keyboards (in stereo) and balance them by autonomy. the only down is that it hasn’t fx. An other option is behringer flow 8 or xr12. Digital and with a lot of possibility, especially for routing. And have fx. More expensive. I think maybe the quality output of mackie is better than behringer’s. Key largo doesn’t have any monitoring possibility, so I never think to it. Key largo 8 o don’t know.

Yes, Cp73 down pan sounds… it’s a shame, because also the acoustic piano Cfx sound very good only through R output.

You don’t say how you connect the keyboard? Did you use the L/mono output? You can achieve mono in segnal in 3 way: L+R, only R and only L. If it doesn’t sound good you can try: - R output (only R) - L output with a false jack insert in R (only L) Doing this you’ll have only R or Only L and not the sum L+R. Often the sum L+R have phase cancellation issues. Only R and only L doesn’t have. I usually use only R.

With Gsi Model D6 you have wha wha with pedal. You can choose pedal, lfo or velocity.

Gianni Giudici in the video I Linked says: “Create the sound starting from one engine that create the “corda”, the hammer, and reproduce all the timbral trend, regarding the dynamic, with a modelling process” It’s not simply to traduce and understand… And then he says that with this method all the samples of the 15 acoustic piano take less than 500mb.

From what I understand it is a physical modelling, but instead of starting from a raw waveform like pianoteq, they start from a sample of piano sound, and then they obtain the rest of the sound with modelling. Here It's a bit explained: link It's in italian language, I don't know if there is the automathic translation.

The acoustic modelling of acoustic Piano is not Simple. The use only one layer of sample, at fortissimo volume, and then with the modelling they get the p, the po, and other dynamics. like the old gem rpx I thing.

As other Gsi apps, quality is top. And Especially in this case, the price is very very cheap. I prefer the CFX in Just Piano than Pianoteq. Same quality in general, but Cfx sings more in the melody, and Pianoteq Steinway is more soft and sweet.

The Cfx, the steinway and the c5 have 16 velocity layers, and no looped samples, so the decay is natural. The same of genuine sound module vol 1 app. You can use one sample at a time. I think that if you download one sample it overwrite the previous one. You’ll also have the future piano sample release included. For 12€… I already buy it, I’ll see if it is better then Ravenscroft.

In the app Gsi sound piano edition there are some samples Rhodes. So I think this new app could be a modelled one, maybe the same sound of crumar seven. In reality there aren’t much good Rhodes app in iOS now.