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    Yamaha CP88 and 73 - Deserve their own thread

    in The Keyboard Corner

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    I played the GrandStage as well. Was not impressed with...the action to sound connection.

    It's a shame that didn't survive the SV1, then. I originally thought the SV1 would not be a sensible purchase, too limited for its price, but it's a joy to play, and I think it will turn out to be one of the few "classics" of the 21st century so far. I think the only people who don't think well of it are people who haven't played it. ;-) Though it is frustrating that they haven't really updated it, as it could still be so much better with some minor tweaks.

     

    I owned THREE of them - 2 reds and a black, which was marked RH3 made in Japan....THAT one made me hate Korg hammer actions with the intensity of a 1000 white-hot suns....

    Yeah, it was a FANTASTIC SOUNDING keyboard hsmpered by the worst action this side of a Williams.....

     

    I REALLY wanted to like the SV1 and it ticked so many boxes for me, but......

     

    Yamaha CP88 and 73 - Deserve their own thread

    in The Keyboard Corner

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    I plan to give the73 the acid test as it seems to be the best Non-Nord gig keyboard for Pianos and Clavs.

    Looks not so great for clav... just 2 clav sounds in it. How about Korg Grandstage? That gives you a lot more clav (including all 4 pickup positions), also in a weighted 73 (though heavier). If you need a lighter weight piano/clav hammer action board, maybe Kurzweil SP6?

     

    Not entirely true that its not so great for clavs...

    Even though it has 2 pickup positions instead of 4, they will probably release more sounds in the next os update...plus some judicious eq and fx can cover in a pinch, for my needs at least....

    Dont care for Grandstage....hate the action, esecially for clavs, hate the layout and the tiny pb and mod wheels.

    Now the VC is an entirely different story.

    Great keybed and form factor and kind of the perfect keyboard for the Afrobeat/Afropop stuff I do.

     

    Yamaha CP88 and 73 - Deserve their own thread

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    So these are released March 18.

    I have my CP on pre-order with next day shipping.

    If this is asgood as I suspect itll be, maybe Ill even get a CP88 to stay at home.

    I plan to give the73 the acid test as it seems to be the best Non-Nord gig keyboard for Pianos and Clavs. (I have mojo61/lm for dedicated organ duties)

    Did I hear Mellotron in Katsunori-sans video?

    (I concur with EscapeRocks that he is my fave reviewer as well)

     

    So, Ima have a report on the CP73 and MS408s coming asap....

    Sometimes I wish Kawai still made synths...

    in The Keyboard Corner

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    The K5 was a beast with a phenomenal semi weighted keyboard.

    You really had to understand additive synthesis to unlock its magic....

    ..... I never owned one but I used to track in a studio that had one.

    I loved every moment I got to play it!

    I need to concentrate on what I have for this new project, but maybe Ill hunt for one in 2020.....

    What older keys players should say to younger keys players

    in The Keyboard Corner

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    But the one thing I really learned from Albert was that its not just about your FINGERS but that your WRISTS are level with the keys so that ALL hand and arm muscles can be properly engaged.

     

    This is excellent, I've often wondered about the height of my hands relative to the keybed, and this makes a ton of sense. Though there's also the question of the height of the elbow relative to the wrist/hand.

     

    the elbows take care of themselves. let then fall naturally once you alingn the hands properly.

    the elbows are neither pulled in nor winged out

     

    I didn't mean the elbows going in or out, I meant up or down. The wrists can be relatively flat, and the elbows up or down in relation to the wrists.

     

    Perhaps you mean the wrists/forearms and elbows are flat?

     

     

    yes

    What older keys players should say to younger keys players

    in The Keyboard Corner

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    But the one thing I really learned from Albert was that its not just about your FINGERS but that your WRISTS are level with the keys so that ALL hand and arm muscles can be properly engaged.

     

    This is excellent, I've often wondered about the height of my hands relative to the keybed, and this makes a ton of sense. Though there's also the question of the height of the elbow relative to the wrist/hand.

     

    the elbows take care of themselves. let then fall naturally once you alingn the hands properly.

    the elbows are neither pulled in nor winged out

    What older keys players should say to younger keys players

    in The Keyboard Corner

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    I hope this is viewed as related to topic

     

    I have fooled around on piano, organ and now keyboard since a kid. IF you asked me "are your fingers curved or not" I would not know. I pay no attention.. and I am sure my playing of many kinds of music would show this defect .

    Now to my question... a friend of mine is learning piano... his first teacher said curved fingers.. then he switched teachers and was told flat fingers.. On top of that, he said flat seems better. on top of that he cited the great Horowitz as playing less curved and more flat.

    So question is... are there without doubt, at least two schools of thought on piano playing.. curved finger and more flat? Likely there are some that would combine both approaches, depending on the musical intent.

    Thanks

     

    I had a classical teacher in college named Albert Lotto, who studied with Horowitz.

    Alberts longtime teacher at Julliard was Sascha Gorodnitski, who played flat fingered but was not dogmatic about ingraining it in his students, only those who had a certain hand structure.

    But the one thing I really learned from Albert was that its not just about your FINGERS but that your WRISTS are level with the keys so that ALL hand and arm muscles can be properly engaged.

    Kenny Werner says the same thing. He got that from Madame Chaloff in Boston.

    What older keys players should say to younger keys players

    in The Keyboard Corner

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    Don't put up with shit from guitar players

     

    Don't get into a band with more than one guitar player

     

    Don't let yourself be an afterthought in a band or ensemble or get bullied by musicians

     

    Practice and stay on top of your craft as much as you can

     

    Try to improve with your instrument and in your life

     

    Don't listen to people all the time with the equipment you buy, educate yourself on what you want to put your best foot forward

     

    Try not to use a music stand on stage when you play unless necessary

     

    Develop your instincts as much as possible. Test the waters when you can with new music

     

    Be careful, musicians are passive-agressive and often emotionally immature people

     

    Try to emulate good qualities from other musicians that came before you

     

    Try not to hero-worship it can be counter-productive and know what you can bring to the table

     

    Work out and get into good shape as tough as it can be to juggle both disciplines, it will help your gigging and add years to your life

     

    Come to this forum ( if it's still around) for advice and some good guidance

     

    Look both ways before you cross the street and don't eat yellow snow

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    All great advice, Jason, especially THIS:

     

    Be careful, musicians are passive-agressive and often emotionally immature people

     

    What older keys players should say to younger keys players

    in The Keyboard Corner

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    My father didn't relate to the popular music of my era.

     

    I don't relate to the current popular music of this era.

     

    You won't relate to the current popular music of a future era.

     

    That being said, there is always good, moving and quality new music coming from somewhere.

     

    "If you're young, listen to old music. If you're old, listen to new music."

     

    Its more than that. Good crafstmanship, sincerity and authenticity transcend generational barriers. They are TIMELESS. Theres good music in ALL eras, but fake and soul-sucking are always fake and soul-sucking no matter whether its done by 9 or 90 year olds.

    What older keys players should say to younger keys players

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Being 26 years old and Hungarian, I don't agree with the necessity of everything that was said above.

    Get you hands on a REAL Rhodes, Wurlitzer, Hammond A,B,C,M, Clavinet, Moog (pre-2000) or ARP and learn the ins and outs, in terms of not only playing, but also in its construction, servicing and general maintenance.
    I can barely enumerate 10 people in Hungary that own a Hammond. I know maybe 2 people with a Rhodes, 1 with a Clav and none with a Wurlitzer. I might never in my life get my hands on those instruments, why should I be able to service them?

    Even musicians that could afford those (which is rare in itself) won't buy them because nowadays you can get the sound with VSTs both live and in the studio. Hauling them is prohibitively difficult to most, maybe 5 people gig real Hammonds in the entire country: 2 jazz players and 3 classic rockers exactly. Real Hammonds are important to US culture but for a Hungarian they are an expensive hobby like vintage cars.

    "When I was a younger player, you had to choose your car carefully to fit all your keyboards."
    Why, has that changed?

     

    well, if you can barely enumerate 10 or 2 people, get to one of those 10 or 2.

    where theres a will, theres a way.

    I grew up in a small town where I knew 2 people who had these instruments, but I drove 60-100 miles to get to instruments I didnt have access to. I found out who had them and how to get there.

    If you are going to emulate US music, at least at the start, learn the tools enough to get an accurate yardstick to judge VSTs and hardware emulators, thats my point.

    Also, you dont have to learn to service them, just have a fair idea of how they work mechanically by sering the actual thing in front of you.

    Get your hands on doesnt HAVE to mean buy, but to have some degree of access to....

     

    What older keys players should say to younger keys players

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    Get you hands on a REAL Rhodes, Wurlitzer, Hammond A,B,C,M, Clavinet, Moog (pre-2000) or ARP and learn the ins and outs, in terms of not only playing, but also in its construction, servicing and general maintenance.

     

    Learn how different amplification systems work with YOUR gear and also with each different piece that you own. Choosing the RIGHT AMP is JUST as crucial as choosing the right keyboards.

     

    Oh yeah, get quality time on a GOOD acoustic piano. (Upright or grand) Really learn how to get a good sound and facility. Be CAREFUL to use your physical effort in sound and rhythmic production WISELY!

     

    Lastly and most importantly, learn and ingrain the touch needed to play differing Electromechanical and Electronic keyboards. Be mindful of the differences and similarities between them all.

     

    BE PATIENT AND EXHAUSTIVELY THOROUGH WITH EACH OF THESE TASKS!

    Your future self will thank you.

     

    Who Needs Classical Music?

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    . It's a totally different type of musician. It's a completely different world as I work at the University it's attached too. That music school's vibe is definitely kind of elitist.

     

    Jason, this elitist attitude is prevalent in the European Clasical world. If you look at old issues of The Etude they are rife with articles on Why Ragtime is Dangerous to your Piano Technique etc. etc. ad nauseaum.

     

     

    Who Needs Classical Music?

    in The Keyboard Corner

    Posted

    I'm not familiar with the term "dynamic projection" apart from mapping, but have heard of the principle of 'projection' in psychology (loosely defined, a defense mechanism of refusing certain negative attributes in yourself while attributing them to others). Perhaps we're talking about the same thing.

     

    Tim

     

    Yes, Tim, you are correct. We are talking about the same thing here.

     

    I really appreciate your thoughtful response as well as your posts in general.

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