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Moog EP-3 Expression Pedal opinions/for Kurzweil PC3?
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Hi everyone,

I’m searching for a good not-super-expensive expression pedal to use with my Kurzweil PC3. My FC7, as noted many times on this forum, doesn’t necessarily work the best with this board. I read all the threads on different resistance values per pedal model and the like already.

The Moog EP-3 looks like it would be a decent pedal, but I’m not seeing a lot of reviews from keyboardists in general. Anyone who’s used one, what have you liked/disliked? And does anyone know if it would work correctly with the PC3? Polarity-wise it’s switchable so I’m not worried about that, but there’s been a lot of discussion about different pot resistance values and the like with the PC3. I would like to have a full-range of values with a smooth curve, especially since the throw looks like it’s shorter than the FC7. The Kurzweil CC1 pedal is a possibility too but I’ve not seen one really positive review.


So...anybody have any comments on the EP-3 in general, or using it with Kurzweil gear?


Thanks!


Yamaha: Motif XF8/YS200/CVP-305/CLP-130/YPG-235/PSR-295/PSS-470
Korg: Krome 61
Kurzweil: PC3
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Casio: CT-370
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Mighty Motif Max #3034922 03/24/20 11:11 PM
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Where is that foot pedal database document located?


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Originally Posted by mate stubb
Where is that foot pedal database document located?


This one? Pedal Summary Ver 3

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Yamaha: Motif XF8/YS200/CVP-305/CLP-130/YPG-235/PSR-295/PSS-470
Korg: Krome 61
Kurzweil: PC3
Roland: JV-1000
Casio: CT-370
Kimball Valencia/Broadway/Conn 465/WCOC Reed Organ/Allen ADC-220/Accordions
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Mighty Motif Max #3034929 03/25/20 12:29 AM
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Hi! I use a moog p3 in my roland jp80 and in my nord electro through midi. It works fine and smooth and it looks like solid enough, actually, it is my fav expression pedal. The only issue that i,ve found in this pesal is his highness, it,s a tall pedal.

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I just bought one. The FC7 works ok with pretty much anything but mine is old and it's got an odd spot where it's too little or too much, and I always felt it had too much throw. The EP, I figured, would play nice with the One and I was happy to discover that it did, and built far better than I thought it would be. It is a short throw but smooth throughout and enough resistance that it's not floppy under your foot. Unfortunately I can't say how it'll work with the Kurz, just that it's a nice pedal for the money.

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Mighty Motif Max #3034967 03/25/20 10:31 AM
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I happen to like the EP-3 bout the first one I had went bad within 18 months - started to spit out erratic values. Luckily got it replaced out of warranty and the replacement has been going well for 2-3 years now. It’s better than the Boss EV-5 I also use as it doesn’t have the same amount of dead travel at the top and bottom. You can get to to use all is physical range.

One negative is the adjustable knob on the side of the pedal can get bumped easily. Good job for a piece of gaffa..


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Think it's really that difficult for manufacturers to agree on a standard, so that any pedal can be used with any keyboard?

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Originally Posted by felis
Think it's really that difficult for manufacturers to agree on a standard, so that any pedal can be used with any keyboard?

Nope - at least if we’re talking about the typical expression pedal. All they need to do is include a polarity switch.

And design the mechanical throw to match the linear pot variation from minimum to maximum. In almost every case the resistance 10K, 25K, 50K, 100K doesn’t matter. But few people seem to acknowledge or remember

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I'm not a fan of short throw pedals. A long throw pedal that I have had success with my PC3 is the Roland EV-7. It has a nice long throw; unfortunately they are discontinued and pricey. Look for used ones on Ebay; even used expect to pay $90. another one which is also expensive is the Crumar organ pedal. Both pedals are the 10K resistance that the PC3 is looking for and both are long throw; both are also fairly large pedals as well, but both do the job nicely. It's a trade off, end of the day its your call. I opted to spend a little money in this area and get a pedal I'm comfortable with.


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For expression pedals I'm quit using kurz pedals cause they fail so easily & switched to On Stage KEP100 expression pedals. Got 6 of them from Sweetwater for $25 apiece & been happy ever since.

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You probably saw this. Back then I used photobucket. The pics still appear but are fuzzy now. I think photobucket wants money now.

My opinions still stand. They are fine pedals. I still prefer the longer travel of the FC7 but my pedalcase wouldn’t hold 3 FC7s.


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I had one for a short while. Got rid of it quickly. The build quality was very nice, but for me its short throw made it useless. I'm so used to the Yamaha FC-7, I just didn't warm up to it.


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Mighty Motif Max #3036098 04/01/20 08:57 PM
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Thanks everyone. I ordered an EP-3 last week. I will let you know what I think of it when it arrives in the next month or so (naturally all shipping is delayed by several weeks from retailers).


Yamaha: Motif XF8/YS200/CVP-305/CLP-130/YPG-235/PSR-295/PSS-470
Korg: Krome 61
Kurzweil: PC3
Roland: JV-1000
Casio: CT-370
Kimball Valencia/Broadway/Conn 465/WCOC Reed Organ/Allen ADC-220/Accordions

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