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Hydrasynth #3006342 09/03/19 07:52 PM
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Can't believe I beat ElmerJFudd to this.

https://cdm.link/2019/09/hydrasynth-polysynth/

"It’s got polyphonic aftertouch. And it signals a return of the designer of the Arturia ‘Brutes and Akai APC40."

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I incorrectly read that as "HydroSynth", thinking it was some crazy synth that used water as a tone generator (which sounds farkin RAD, btw).

Oh, I have envisioned using a water reservoir as a slow compressor. After all, that's practically what a water tower is, just 10000x as slow. It would work like an optical compressor but with liquid.


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Been wanting to post about this all day long ...

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"Hail Hydra!"

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The part that excites me the most is Medeli having a history of licensing their actions out to other manufacturers. How long until we see the first poly AT keyboard using the same action from someone else?


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Re: Hydrasynth [Re: GovernorSilver] #3006372 09/03/19 11:08 PM
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there's a desktop version, too...video at link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Xx45aUz9k

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Loopop's review covers both keyboard and desktop versions, showing the differences between the two as well.


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Nice find! Thanks for sharing!


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I ain't watched the videos yet. Any info on polyphony?


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Eight voice

Re: Hydrasynth [Re: tarkus] #3006405 09/04/19 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tarkus
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Would have been cool if Red Skull had done the demo.

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Might want one more octave sometimes but poly AT and that ribbon are pretty cool.


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Originally Posted by MAJUSCULE
Might want one more octave sometimes but poly AT and that ribbon are pretty cool.


Four octaves and only 8 voices is a bit of a deal breaker, even with poly AT. frown

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Originally Posted by Synthoid
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Might want one more octave sometimes but poly AT and that ribbon are pretty cool.


Four octaves and only 8 voices is a bit of a deal breaker, even with poly AT. frown



8 voices is a deal breaker? That's 2 more voices than most guitars!
Plus, at this price, you could practically get a keyboard and add a module ...

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Originally Posted by Synthoid

Four octaves and only 8 voices is a bit of a deal breaker


original Nord Lead was 4 octaves and 4 voices. Seemed to do OK, IIRC smile


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Originally Posted by davedoerfler
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Four octaves and only 8 voices is a bit of a deal breaker


original Nord Lead was 4 octaves and 4 voices. Seemed to do OK, IIRC smile


If the Nord Lead 4 voices was enough for Johann Sebastian Bach and James Jamerson, than 4 voices is good enough for me.

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Price given here is $1299 keyboard, $899 desktop - reasonable considering the reported build quality I guess. UI seems workable, but would have liked to have seen a few more dedicated knobs on a synth like this,[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=545&v=MhBi6rzFkCA[/video]

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Originally Posted by Synthoid
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I wonder if you´ve sent this puppy a dump request already ...


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Originally Posted by timwat
If the Nord Lead 4 voices was enough for Johann Sebastian Bach and James Jamerson, than 4 voices is good enough for me.


Little known fact... Jamerson's had the expanded 12 voice version of the Nord Lead.

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Originally Posted by Bill H.

Price given here is $1299 keyboard, $899 desktop - reasonable considering the reported build quality I guess. UI seems workable, but would have liked to have seen a few more dedicated knobs on a synth like this,[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=545&v=MhBi6rzFkCA[/video]


On another forum, several peeps compare it to Novation Peak, fair or not. I think it's because they latch on to the wavetable and analog/VA aspects.

Peak has more knobs, but it's a desktop synth and also costs quite a bit more than the Hydrasynth desktop.

Novation Summit has a keyboard and more knobs but the price gap is even larger between it and the Hydrasynth keyboard, and it doesn't have polyAT or ribbon unless I missed something.

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Well,- 5 multi-waveform LFOs, 5 6-stage ENV generators, modmatrix and kind of SEM state-variable filter (filter #2) make this device interesting alone.
Looks like Oberheim (xpanderish) modulation playground and more.
Poly AT cool and w/ 4 oct. only better than nothing,- but I´d prefer 61 keys though.

Demos sound good too.

I wonder where to find a Medelli synth action built into an already existing synth/keyboard instrument.
Do they work well ?

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Meh. A shredder has to have at least 61 keys to rip on. 😀


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I don't hear anything that reminds me of the Peak in this new synth. I listened too about half the Sweetwater Demo and tuned out. Its not very musical, its OK if you want to make strange noises,

I didn't care for the straight VA sound either. So, count me out.


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Originally Posted by MikeT156
I don't hear anything that reminds me of the Peak in this new synth. I listened too about half the Sweetwater Demo and tuned out. Its not very musical, its OK if you want to make strange noises,

I didn't care for the straight VA sound either. So, count me out.


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I also didn't agree that it's all that comparable to Peak/Summit, fwiw.

Loopop's and Nick's (SonicState) were enough to pique my interest, but... fair enough, we all have our tastes.

Listening to Sweetwater's video - out of my continued respect and admiration for Daniel Fisher. He just submitted a Leslie sim patch for the Zoia but that's OT now... I actually like some of the pad sounds he's played so far, but again, to each their own.

EDIT: Fisher really likes "Fly Like an Eagle". He contributed a factory preset for Zoia that has that sound. I like his 2nd electric piano patch.

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AN danother example of why I know others before me *knew* those accurate analogue curves would be _impossible_ to recreate by all kinds of digital signal path considerations.

I recognize some of my teenage digital electronic synthesizer/organ attempts in the sound of this one, not nice. But overall I agree with the not very musical idea, and I recognize very much why that is...

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Only interesting synth out the recent crop of the same old cheesy tones bathed in FX.
There’s so much more to this synth than the demos I’ve seen.
I’m getting one ASAP and if it’s not what I anticipate somebody will buy it.
It’s more of the controlling and modulating the sound that piques my interests.


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I love the disclaimer at the beginning of the video. Says he will only play one C note, and focus almost entirely on synthesis.

So, don't watch if you expect a musical performance. Do watch if you want a fairly deep dive into the synth engine.


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Some nice sounds here.



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I saw all kinds of coverage of this for about a day... and then Roland dropped their bomb. It's gotta suck to be a small fish sometimes.


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