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When Old Pianos Must Go #2993926 06/12/19 01:19 PM
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Found this article in the Washington Post.

When Old Pianos Must Go

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Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: paulkondig] #2993931 06/12/19 02:10 PM
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Depressing.


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Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: Jazz+] #2993942 06/12/19 02:57 PM
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I would really like to read this but it's behind a pay wall. frown


A reason why I collect old keyboards is that I feel partly responsible for doing it, responsible for preserving history and being a custodian for these things
Plus, old gear has a story. I like that.
Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: davedoerfler] #2993944 06/12/19 03:04 PM
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I had a thread about this last year and it went kind of south but at the turn of the 20th century there were at least 300 piano manufactures around according to my tuner who is the VP of the technicians guild around here.


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Originally Posted By: davedoerfler
I would really like to read this but it's behind a pay wall. frown


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Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: Bradley B] #2993955 06/12/19 04:16 PM
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Depressing.


agreed


A reason why I collect old keyboards is that I feel partly responsible for doing it, responsible for preserving history and being a custodian for these things
Plus, old gear has a story. I like that.
Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: Jazz+] #2993968 06/12/19 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
Depressing.


Sadly, this is the truth!


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Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: paulkondig] #2993970 06/12/19 05:12 PM
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Old Organs are also endangered. Along with many Pianos there are at least 40 free Organs on the local Facebook Marketplace. There are a couple of Hammond tone wheel spinets among the Thomas, Lowrey, Wurlitzer, Conn, Kimball, etc.


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Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: paulkondig] #2993973 06/12/19 05:17 PM
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As someone's sig on this forum says... "Pianos are like circus elephants". And as the article points out, they served a special purpose in people's living rooms, other than just as a musical instrument... "an immaculate piece of furniture" as it were.

Due to increasingly accurate digital technology, and the proliferation of that technology... the acoustic piano (purely as an instrument) has indeed lost its value. (Except for Steinways in good condition. etc.) It now enters the same realm as vintage analog synths... collectors items.

Until it was accurately recreated digitally, the sound of the Piano was a very magical thing that could only be achieved by 300+ pounds of wood, metal, and ivory.


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Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: synthizen2] #2993979 06/12/19 05:44 PM
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we have an old, dare i guess antique, upright in our living room. the condition is so poor its unplayable. cost to rebuild its innards is more than it would be worth, but my wife likes how it looks. arrrghh circus elephant!


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Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: MotiDave] #2993994 06/12/19 07:30 PM
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I had a 6’ Chickering built in the 1910s that I played for about 30 years. Nice bright sound and a joy to play. Eventually it got so that it would hold a tune only for a couple of months. I asked my tuner/technician about rebuilding it and I’ll never forget what he told me.

“Old pianos aren’t like old violins. Sometimes they just wear out and aren’t worth fixing.” He said over the years the tuning pins had been hammered in to tighten them but that this was a self-defeating maneuver and would eventually fail. He suggested that I would probably like a Schimmel and after playing a lot of pianos bought the 6-10 that I still have. But I was sad to see the old one go. The dealer took it as a “trade-in” and said he could make the cabinet nice enough to sell it to someone who wanted it as a piece of furniture. I guess back in the mid 90s that was still true.

There’s room for it where I live now, but if I’m looking to downsize there aren’t a lot of apartments or condos where it would fit. I should have bought a Steinway if I had been thinking resale value. The Schimmel is worth about what I paid for it even though a comparable new one is way more than that.

But there’s definitely been a sea change from the 60s and 70s when having a piano in the house was common. I’m sure lots of us were asked to “play something” on a out of tune spinet in your friend’s parent’s living room. Nobody had played it in years but it still sat there as a symbol of middle class aspirations.


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Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: misterdregs] #2994002 06/12/19 08:05 PM
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My church was given a beautiful Grotrinn-Strinuirg (I think that's the brand. Trying to read off a picture of the name) build to the 30s in Germany. According to the history we got on this piano, it was built by the man whose former partner moved to the US and changed his name to Steinway.

This is a well maintained instrument, lovingly cared for, and kept in perfect tune. But, it is usually relegated to the back of the stage in favor of the Yamaha MOX8.

I personally try to play it every chance I get, but does not get played near as much as it should.

I have a friend that has a music store, and he has a number of pianos that he has had there for a long time, because they won't sell.

I've even seen a few in Molly Mutt, the local ASPCA Thrift Store. I try playing them, but they are unplayable.

As much as it pains me to say so, the article is right. I know that if we ever tried to sell our 61 Wurlitzer Spinet, no one would buy it, even though the case is black and in beautiful condition. Tuning, not so much.


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Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: paulkondig] #2994004 06/12/19 08:23 PM
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Ebony seems to be the major choice for acoustic pianos nowadays. Yamaha, Steinway, KAWAI, Young Chang.


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I have my old piano now that my mom sold her home. It's not worth anything but I learned to play on it and for that I'd never let it go. Sorry a digital piano will never be the same thing.


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Re: When Old Pianos Must Go [Re: paulkondig] #2994608 06/18/19 11:03 AM
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A sad but true tale to be sure.

When I upgraded the old Yamaha vertical I learned on to a lovely little Baldwin I somehow managed to convince the music store to take the Yamaha away in the same truck that the Baldwin arrived in.

Got no money for it, but was happy enough not to pay a removal fee.


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