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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: SliceOfPierce] #2980266
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Originally Posted By: SliceOfPierce
Would anyone here be able to give me a direct comparison of this new smart action vs the Korg RH3 action? I’m caught between the S1000 and the D1


I've never played a D1 but generally I dislike the RH3 action. I owned two SV-1 s and hated them. The Grandstage is a little better but not by much. Not at all a fan of the Korg action.

On first play, I felt the new Casio as being right there with some of the best Yamahas- CP4 and CP88. I also prefer it to the Nord Piano 4 fwiw.

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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris
Originally Posted By: SliceOfPierce
Would anyone here be able to give me a direct comparison of this new smart action vs the Korg RH3 action? I’m caught between the S1000 and the D1


I've never played a D1 but generally I dislike the RH3 action. I owned two SV-1 s and hated them. The Grandstage is a little better but not by much. Not at all a fan of the Korg action.

On first play, I felt the new Casio as being right there with some of the best Yamahas- CP4 and CP88. I also prefer it to the Nord Piano 4 fwiw.


Dave, I HATED the RH3 on the SV1 and Grandstage. Beyond Awful.
But the new Kronos plays like butter.
I couldnt believe it, but I think they just save thier best action for the Kronos.


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..........Also, I've been gigging with a PX-5S since they came out and I have no issues digging into the black keys, etc... I find it to be a much better action than the Yamaha GHS.


Nice to know it's standing the test of time. I am thinking of re-introducing one into my setup (to go with laptop), so yeah, good to find good feedback on the PX-5


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Dave Ferris] #2980299
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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris

On first play, I felt the new Casio as being right there with some of the best Yamahas- CP4 and CP88.


This is great news. Although I am keeping my CP4, I will be purchasing a S3000 as soon as they become available locally. Looking forward to the built in speakers. thu


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Originally Posted By: jimkost2002
Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris
Originally Posted By: SliceOfPierce
Would anyone here be able to give me a direct comparison of this new smart action vs the Korg RH3 action? I’m caught between the S1000 and the D1


I've never played a D1 but generally I dislike the RH3 action. I owned two SV-1 s and hated them. The Grandstage is a little better but not by much. Not at all a fan of the Korg action.

On first play, I felt the new Casio as being right there with some of the best Yamahas- CP4 and CP88. I also prefer it to the Nord Piano 4 fwiw.


Dave, I HATED the RH3 on the SV1 and Grandstage. Beyond Awful.
But the new Kronos plays like butter.
I couldnt believe it, but I think they just save thier best action for the Kronos.



Jim,

Did you buy the Kronos SE or the K2? I had someone tell me they were different keybeds but looked at the specs. and they appear to be the same keybed. Asking don't know 4 sure?

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Originally Posted By: bennyray
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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris
[quote=SliceOfPierce]Would anyone here be able to give me a direct comparison of this new smart action vs the Korg RH3 action? I’m caught between the S1000 and the D1


I've never played a D1 but generally I dislike the RH3 action. I owned two SV-1 s and hated them. The Grandstage is a little better but not by much. Not at all a fan of the Korg action.

On first play, I felt the new Casio as being right there with some of the best Yamahas- CP4 and CP88. I also prefer it to the Nord Piano 4 fwiw.


Dave, I HATED the RH3 on the SV1 and Grandstage. Beyond Awful.
But the new Kronos plays like butter.
I couldnt believe it, but I think they just save thier best action for the Kronos.



Jim,

Did you buy the Kronos SE or the K2? I had someone tell me they were different keybeds but looked at the specs. and they appear to be the same keybed. Asking don't know 4 sure? [/quote]

Benny,

I got the K2. The SE is adifferent action entirely (Korg calls it light weighted). I was all set to get an SE, but I walked into a local store on a whim and they had a K2 88 and I sat down behind it for a hour + and did’nt get up !
It felt entirely different than ANY of the earlier generations of RH3. So much more responsive and smooth. So I went home and had Sweetwater overnight one to me.
FWIW, instead of an “RH3” sticker on the top key, there was a “made in japan” sticker in red cursive, so it may be an upgraded or tweaked version?
I do know its COMPLETELY different than the SV1 or Grandstage.
As a matter of fact, the store had an SV1 and Grandstage running thru the same monitors as the K2.
Playing them did nothing to change my earlier AWFUL experiences with both boards.
So that’s my experience.
But, to reiterate, the SE s an entirly different action than the other models!

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Originally Posted By: Dave Ferris
Originally Posted By: SliceOfPierce
Would anyone here be able to give me a direct comparison of this new smart action vs the Korg RH3 action? I’m caught between the S1000 and the D1


I've never played a D1 but generally I dislike the RH3 action. I owned two SV-1 s and hated them. The Grandstage is a little better but not by much. Not at all a fan of the Korg action.

On first play, I felt the new Casio as being right there with some of the best Yamahas- CP4 and CP88. I also prefer it to the Nord Piano 4 fwiw.


Coming from you, Dave, that is quite an endorsement!
Can’t wait to try one!


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: jimkost2002] #2980362
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I believe you’re confusing the SE with the LS. The LS has the lightweight action, the SE should be exactly the same as the 2.

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Originally Posted By: jimkost2002
Originally Posted By: bennyray
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[quote=Dave Ferris][quote=SliceOfPierce]Would anyone here be able to give me a direct comparison of this new smart action vs the Korg RH3 action? I’m caught between the S1000 and the D1


I've never played a D1 but generally I dislike the RH3 action. I owned two SV-1 s and hated them. The Grandstage is a little better but not by much. Not at all a fan of the Korg action.

On first play, I felt the new Casio as being right there with some of the best Yamahas- CP4 and CP88. I also prefer it to the Nord Piano 4 fwiw.


Dave, I HATED the RH3 on the SV1 and Grandstage. Beyond Awful.
But the new Kronos plays like butter.
I couldnt believe it, but I think they just save thier best action for the Kronos.



Jim,

Did you buy the Kronos SE or the K2? I had someone tell me they were different keybeds but looked at the specs. and they appear to be the same keybed. Asking don't know 4 sure? [/quote]

Benny,

I got the K2. The SE is adifferent action entirely (Korg calls it light weighted). I was all set to get an SE, but I walked into a local store on a whim and they had a K2 88 and I sat down behind it for a hour + and did’nt get up !
It felt entirely different than ANY of the earlier generations of RH3. So much more responsive and smooth. So I went home and had Sweetwater overnight one to me.
FWIW, instead of an “RH3” sticker on the top key, there was a “made in japan” sticker in red cursive, so it may be an upgraded or tweaked version?
I do know its COMPLETELY different than the SV1 or Grandstage.
As a matter of fact, the store had an SV1 and Grandstage running thru the same monitors as the K2.
Playing them did nothing to change my earlier AWFUL experiences with both boards.
So that’s my experience.
But, to reiterate, the SE s an entirly different action than the other models! [/quote]

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Do any stores in NYC have the 1000 or 3000 out to try? GC and MF already have the black one available to ship. Would like to try it out before buying- My P125 is working out great and I don't know if I will add another board though anyway

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Originally Posted By: jimkost2002
I HATED the RH3 on the SV1 and Grandstage. Beyond Awful.
But the new Kronos plays like butter.

These either goes to show you individually subjective this all is, or that boards vary even if they're ostensibly the same, or both. Bu I really enjoy playing the SV1, and the one Kronos 73 I tried, I didn't like the feel of at all. Could be the presence of the aftertouch strip? I don't know...


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Originally Posted By: LarsHarner
Do any stores in NYC have the 1000 or 3000 out to try? GC and MF already have the black one available to ship. Would like to try it out before buying- My P125 is working out great and I don't know if I will add another board though anyway
My understanding is the PX-S1000 is hitting dealers this week so they should be showing up now or soon. The PX-S3000 is expected mid or later in April.


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Demo sounds from the PX-S1000 this time

PX-S1000 sounds

From the top counting down 7-9,11-12+15-16 Sound Good.

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Originally Posted By: brooster1
Demo sounds from the PX-S1000 this time

PX-S1000 sounds

From the top counting down 7-9,11-12+15-16 Sound Good.

Track 6 is Chorus Rhodes, drowning in built in chorus modulation... imagine what a guitarist would say if forced to play with Chorus On all the time, especially for soloing.
Nice sounding Vibes patch (final Track; I hear the mallets). I like a split Vibes/Bass for my own Modern Jazz Quartet duo vibe.
Track 10 is Jazz Organ and I like the sound I hear there.
Maybe the S3000 will let me edit the organ's C3 and Percussion as controllable effects? Will they be good? And edit the Rhodes to Chorus OFF.


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Was just reading over on another forum, there is no way to connect either of these to a computer to run VSTs? I know there was no midi but I thought the USB would be capable of that?

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Originally Posted By: SliceOfPierce
Was just reading over on another forum, there is no way to connect either of these to a computer to run VSTs? I know there was no midi but I thought the USB would be capable of that?


Poppycock. All the Privias are class compliant USB to host.
“Class-compliant USB means you can connect to any Mac/PC/iOS/Android device with no drivers or installation needed.”


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Thankyou! I’ve given up on the D1 and think I’ll be placing an order for the S1000

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S3000 is the kind. You can record your piano demos direct to a USB stick in uncompressed .wav file format. Looking forward to a Chorus free Rhodes and a Jazz Organ (88800000) that I can edit. Those 2 features make it worth the extra $120 to me.


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Originally Posted By: ElmerJFudd
Originally Posted By: SliceOfPierce
Was just reading over on another forum, there is no way to connect either of these to a computer to run VSTs? I know there was no midi but I thought the USB would be capable of that?


Poppycock. All the Privias are class compliant USB to host.
“Class-compliant USB means you can connect to any Mac/PC/iOS/Android device with no drivers or installation needed.”

A Casio fan here. It's time that Casio started featuring audio over USB perhaps with the replacement models for the PX5s and the PX560.

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Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
My understanding is the PX-S1000 is hitting dealers this week so they should be showing up now or soon. The PX-S3000 is expected mid or later in April.


Thanks Joe- it can be quite frustrating as we have a guitar center and sam ash in the same shopping center- and they often do not get new items in on the floor. I still haven't been able to try out a grandstage after all this time.

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If GC has it in the box in the back they are obligated to open it as a floor display if you ask them to.


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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
If GC has it in the box in the back they are obligated to open it as a floor display if you ask them to.
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Obligated? By whom? Are you saying that their dealer agreement with Casio requires it? I haven't heard of anything like that. Or maybe you're saying Guitar Center corporate requires that their locations do that?


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Originally Posted By: MPN21

A Casio fan here. It's time that Casio started featuring audio over USB perhaps with the replacement models for the PX5s and the PX560.


I agree completely.

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I don’t think the 560 will be changing soon. The 5S is due. And it’s going to be some bang for your buck, light weight killer synth and stage piano.


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Is one of the new Casio models with organs going to be editable?

They were so close on even the WK 3000 series that was released in 2006. The percussion was the biggest problem. It was way too loud, and not really authentic. It even has a decent slow leslie sim if you edit Stereo Phaser in the DSP.

My WK 3000 is very much a go to organ for me for practice, because it runs on batteries too. Killer lower manual sound with slow chorale.

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Originally Posted By: AnotherScott
Originally Posted By: Jazz+
If GC has it in the box in the back they are obligated to open it as a floor display if you ask them to.
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Obligated? By whom? Are you saying that their dealer agreement with Casio requires it? I haven't heard of anything like that. Or maybe you're saying Guitar Center corporate requires that their locations do that?
I don't know if there's an "obligation" either, but I would think if they want to make a sale they'd be willing to set it up if a customer asked. If they balk because they don't have a demo unit, tell them that is the demo.

(Some manufacturers have specific demo units the stores are to use, while others have them simply pull one from inventory for demo purposes. Casio is the latter. What happens is that store employees don't keep track of which ones are which and then think they can't pull a Casio for demo.)


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Originally Posted By: Joe Muscara
My understanding is the PX-S1000 is hitting dealers this week so they should be showing up now or soon.

Sweetwater has stock on the black PX-S1000


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I want to get the PX-S1000 from Musicstore de. They still don't have it in stock. Been harassing their website daily to check.

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I'm in the market for mid-April/May . . . I'm really eager to hear some reports from the wild (or to try one myself at Guitar Center).

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So far, every single person who played it has been impressed by it. Safe to say it will be a blind buy for me since i need a new controller with good keys to replace my old CDP 200R.

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Totally, and at literally 1/2 the price of the Yamaha P515 (which was my plan before NAMM), this budget-minded consumer can hardly afford to not buy the S3000.

I do own the PX5S for gigs, and while I love it for many things, I don't love the piano sound (mainly the sound doesn't seem to last long enough . .. it dampens and ends too shortly for me). I know that this has a different piano sound in it, but I do want to try before I buy.

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