GovernorSilver Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Rumors milling in time for Superbooth 2021 Specs were reportedly copied from a web page that was just taken down OSCILLATORS Two analog VCOs per voice Continuously variable wave shape (sine, sawtooth, variable-width pulse) per oscillator Hard sync: oscillator 1 syncs to oscillator 2 Square wave sub-octave generator (oscillator 1) per voice Keyboard tracking on/off for each oscillator Front-panel FM (frequency modulation) MIXER Oscillator 1 amount Oscillator 1 sub-octave amount Oscillator 2 amount White noise amount LOW-PASS FILTER Four-pole, resonant, analog low-pass filter per voice, based on Prophet 5 Rev 4 design Filter can be driven into self-oscillation with the Resonance control Bi-polar filter envelope amount ENVELOPES Two 5-stage envelope generators (ADSR + delay) with variable routing (filter, amplifier, gate) Velocity modulation of each envelope amount Envelopes freely assignable to multiple modulation destinations LOW FREQUENCY OSCILLATOR Five wave shapes: triangle, sawtooth, reverse sawtooth, square, and random (sample and hold) Clock sync (internal or external MIDI clock) Freely assignable to multiple modulation destinations DIGITAL EFFECTS One dedicated reverb with damping, pre-delay, decay and tone One multi-effect with stereo delay, BBD delay, tape delay, chorus, flanger, phaser, ring mod, vintage rotating speaker, distortion, high-pass filter Dedicated Overdrive effect VINTAGE KNOB Recreates the characteristics of vintage synthesizers by introducing micro-fluctuations in oscillators, filter, and envelopes per voice. AFTERTOUCH Source: channel (mono) aftertouch with bi-polar amount Aftertouch freely assignable to multiple modulation destinations CLOCK Master clock with tap tempo BPM control and display MIDI clock sync ARPEGGIATOR Up, down, up+down, random, assign modes Syncs to MIDI clock Re-latching arpeggiation SEQUENCER Polyphonic step sequencer with up to 64 steps with ties and rests PERFORMANCE CONTROLS Full-sized, semi-weighted, 3.5-octave premium Fatar keyboard with velocity and aftertouch Spring-loaded pitch wheel with selectable range per program with independently adjustable upper and lower pitch wheel range transpose controls Low-split mode creates two independent performance zones with different octave ranges Hold switch latches held notes on Polyphonic glide (portamento) Unison (monophonic) mode with configurable voice count, from one to all five voices, and key modes Factory switch: when off, the front panel is live; what you see is what you hear PATCH MEMORY 128 user and 128 factory IN/OUT 1 MIDI In, 1 MIDI Out, and 1 MIDI Thru port USB port for bidirectional MIDI communication 1 Sustain/footswitch input 1 Expression pedal input Main stereo output (2 x 1/4â³ phone jack) Headphone out (stereo 1/4â³ phone jack) POWER IEC AC power inlet for internal power supply Operates worldwide on voltages between 100 and 240 volts at 50 to 60 Hz; 14 watts maximum power consumption PHYSICAL SPECS Premium, 3.5-octave, semi-weighted Fatar keyboard 25â³ L x 12.75â³ W x 4.4â³ H (63.5 cm x 32.4 cm x 11.2 cm) Weight: 17 lbs (7.7 kg) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Hmmm. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkeys Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 A little more Quote CP4 Stage | Integra-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 Sadly, that video is just the guy talking about Take 5. This seems to be a recent trend in Youtube channels that focus on synth topics - when a new synth is anticipated, the eager Youtuber puts out a video of nothing but talk and repurposed images, just to try to harvest more YT likes and views. I don't think we should reward such low-effort YT posts. I'm guessing most guys here would rather just read his article and skip the all-talk, no sound video https://www.synthanatomy.com/2021/08/leak-sequential-take-5-new-5-voice-analog-polyphonic-synthesizer-from-dave-smith.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 http://www.synthanatomy.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Sequential-Take-5.001.jpeg Ok, so this is sort of like - how do we get a Prophet-like instrument closer to Mopho/Tetra price point. It looks reminiscent of more budget friendly instruments. So is this effort inspired by Uli"s forth coming Pro800 and Pro16? Or by Focusrite sensibilities? A bit of both? Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 I'm surprised nobody noticed the resemblance to the Pro 3 - design-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hughes Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 "I'm surprised nobody noticed the resemblance to the Pro 3 - design-wise." The video mentions this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 "I'm surprised nobody noticed the resemblance to the Pro 3 - design-wise." The video mentions this. So did the article, written by the same person who made the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 2EGs, 1 LFO, aftertouch. Synthtopia says $1250. $400 under a 61k REV2 8 Voice. I have a feeling Uli is going to put is Pro16 at $1250. https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2021/08/20/sequential-take-5-synthesizer-pairs-classic-prophet-sound-with-modern-effects/ Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 While it clearly has a 2021 feature set, I was immediately struck by how much it felt like my two Tetras mashed into a box with proper keys & FX. Dave's effects are always good, but I've also been one who factored an effects box into a new synth purchase. There's less need here unless you have an understandable Eventide jones. The Take 5 holds an interesting position in the current field, maybe somewhere between a Cobalt 8, a Wavestate and an MFB Dominion. Its easy to see it as either a middling centerpiece for a modest EDM rig or the analog member of something more digital. It'd also be a smashing graduation gift for someone who aches to have a bigger Prophet. How much push-back it may have against Uli's releases is irrelevant. It all depends on the draw for each individual. My take: while it could be seen as a reaction to some extent, its also part of the way Dave has always positioned himself in the market. People who can't drop $4K or so on an uber-Prophet will be happy to see this one appear. As went the post-P5 Prophet-600, so goes the Take 5 after the burst of Prophet-5s. We already know how good it sounds, so its a GAS/form factor thing. Kewl. Quote "I like that rapper with the bullet in his nose!" "Yeah, Bulletnose! One sneeze and the whole place goes up!" ~ "King of the Hill" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Looks like a great auxiliary board for a live setup. Size gives you several placement options, 16 program buttons makes patch selection a breeze, effects gives you a finished sound directly to the house, and price lets you think not too hard about it if you're gigging all the time. I'd be all over it if I still was. I don't see this as having much to do with Behringer at all - but more like a niche product for a market that Dave Smith understands very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 As my Pro 3 arrived today and I am staring at it as I read this, I immediately noticed the similarity in looks, but feature-wise they are quite different. Or at least this seems to be the case based on what has been leaked so far. I see the Pro 3's primary differentiating factor being its Moog/OB/DSI filter trio. Quote Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Sequential's new owners: "Uli is *still* working on his polyphonics... this is our one-time chance. Go design an affordable polysynth, quick!" Sequential: "So, how we do this asap... let's use the Pro 3 chassis, and a stripped-down Pro 3 architecture". Not that I find anything wrong with this. On the contrary, I think it's a clever move. If it sounds right, it deserves ro sell very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnector Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Not big on that low F key layout. It's nice to see something a little bigger than 3 octaves, but I'd prefer a low C to G layout instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Not big on that low F key layout. It's nice to see something a little bigger than 3 octaves, but I'd prefer a low C to G layout instead. it's the same key formation as the Moog Mini Moog. People have done OK with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnector Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Not big on that low F key layout. It's nice to see something a little bigger than 3 octaves, but I'd prefer a low C to G layout instead. it's the same key formation as the Moog Mini Moog. People have done OK with it. Ya, I realize that. I had a MM ages ago, along with a Hammond M3. The M3 has the low F configuration as well. It bugged me back then sometimes as well on certain songs, but that's just me. Playing in E or drop D always "shortened the keyboard" if you wanted to play in the lowest octave. I'm in "the more keys, the better camp" I guess. All my boards these days are either 61, 76 or 88 keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Official details are out: https://www.sequential.com/product/take-5-compact-poly-synth/ CDM article with intro video and audio demos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 [video:youtube] https://m.soundcloud.com/sequential_llc/sets/take-5-audio-demos?utm_source=Email&utm_campaign=social_sharing&utm_medium=widgetutm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Fsequential_llc%2Fsets%2Ftake-5-audio-demos Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 If the Take 5 sounds anything close to a Prophet 5-lite, it should sell like hotcakes especially for those who want the flavor without the calories. Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 If the Take 5 sounds anything close to a Prophet 5-lite, it should sell like hotcakes especially for those who want the flavor without the calories. Brother D, let me know when you're hitting up our favorite dealer to try it. Being able to try Prophet 5 in the same room as Moog One, OB-6, Prophet 6, etc. totally sold me on the Prophet 5. Would love to try P5 side by side with T5, but it would be even better to watch/hear you try them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Official details are out: https://www.sequential.com/product/take-5-compact-poly-synth/ CDM article with intro video and audio demos FYI - the CDM article says US price is $1299. Took me a minute to find that important detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Official details are out: https://www.sequential.com/product/take-5-compact-poly-synth/ CDM article with intro video and audio demos FYI - the CDM article says US price is $1299. Took me a minute to find that important detail. Yup, at the very top of the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Another set of demos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Key "Take"-a-way from that vid: The Take 5 is ideal for playing at home...alone.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 On another forum, somebody complained the Soundcloud demos made him feel Take 5 is intended only for funk keyboard players. First time I've seen "suitable for funk" stated as a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Exactly. To quote the song by The Clash, perhaps that writer was "overpowered by funk". I am in fact considering this for my long list now that I know it's a 5-voice synth that excels in funk and r&b. Great demos! Quote Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Exactly. To quote the song by The Clash, perhaps that writer was "overpowered by funk". I am in fact considering this for my long list now that I know it's a 5-voice synth that excels in funk and r&b. Great demos! It totally looks like it was designed to be paired with a Pro 3 - which you of course now have. I think you could do a lot with that dynamic duo - Take 5 for your chording duties, Pro 3 for lead/bass and modular textures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberGene Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 The demos sound great and the price is unbelievable. What"s the catch? Why is this cheaper than the Prophet 5? BTW I thought it was made in China in order to be cheap but on a picture from Thomann it says 'assembled in USA'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 On another forum, somebody complained the Soundcloud demos made him feel Take 5 is intended only for funk keyboard players. First time I've seen "suitable for funk" stated as a bad thing. Maybe whoever complained would prefer having the demos done by Nick Semrad, Matt Johnson or J3PO. Quote PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 On another forum, somebody complained the Soundcloud demos made him feel Take 5 is intended only for funk keyboard players. First time I've seen "suitable for funk" stated as a bad thing. Maybe whoever complained would prefer having the demos done by Nick Semrad, Matt Johnson or J3PO. I wouldn't complain, that's for sure. I think it's a given that at least 2 of the above 3 will get a Take 5 and put up a vid of it on YT. No offense intended of course to the mystery employee that Dave forced to record the demos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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