shniggens Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I've been accused of having cheesy organ sounds, and it's true. Anyone have any luck getting usable organ sounds of their Alesis QS? Not looking to get an exact replica of a real hammond or anything, but just something adequate. Please help! Amateur Hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrdman Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Originally posted by shniggens: I've been accused of having cheesy organ sounds, and it's true. Anyone have any luck getting usable organ sounds of their Alesis QS? Not looking to get an exact replica of a real hammond or anything, but just something adequate. Please help! I have never liked the organ sounds on my QS8. I use a VK8 as a top board and MIDI my QS8 as a second manual through to that. However given that, I have never tried to tweek them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBowsa Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I always thought the QS had some reasonable tones - Keith's C3 patch is ok, there's a jazz organ patch that I used. American Organ is workable. Its true, the top end is a bit screetchy and the leslie isn't great, but it sits ok in a mix. If you're really concerned, there's Vintage Keys QCard that has some extra organ patches, and maybe you'd want to consider an external leslie sim, like the tube-based H&K Rotosphere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay da cop Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 +1 on the Vintage Keys card. There are more organs, and nicely done, especially if you run it through a good leslie sim/real rotary speaker. BTW, this was recommended by Erik Norlander also. Gave it a try, it works, they really come to life. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod S Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 If you depend heavily on the QS for your sounds, you really should get both the Vintage Keys and Vintage Synths, as they really add a lot to the sound, IMHO... So, +1 of the vintage keys as well.... they are a reasonable set-up from the stock samples. Korg Kronos X73 / ARP Odyssey / Motif ES Rack / Roland D-05 / JP-08 / SE-05 / Jupiter Xm / Novation Mininova / NL2X / Waldorf Pulse II MBP-LOGIC American Deluxe P-Bass, Yamaha RBX760 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidLifeCrisis Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 As DaBowsa mentioned The Jazz organ patch and Keith's C3 are more than acceptable. The Purple B patch is killer. These 3 patches got me through many gigs before I got my VK-8. Steve A Lifetime of Peace, Love and Protest Music www.rock-xtreme.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shniggens Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 Well, it's apparent that I will need to get the Q Card. I'll mess with those other patches, and combine them if I need to. What about for the heavier stuff - Deep Purple and the like. Amateur Hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidLifeCrisis Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Originally posted by shniggens: What about for the heavier stuff - Deep Purple and the like. Try the PurpleB patch. It is a great Jon Lord sound. I used it for all my Deep Purple tunes and it rocked. My QS6.1 came standard with those sounds. Don't know why you need the QCard. Steve A Lifetime of Peace, Love and Protest Music www.rock-xtreme.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shniggens Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 OK. I'll try it again. From memory, I don't think I was too impressed with that patch. Maybe I need to mess with the controllers a bit. Thanks. Amateur Hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieP_MechE Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 For Deep Purple stuff, maybe you could route the audio out through a distortion/overdrive pedal? A tube-driven one would be nice, as they have a nice warm tone and don't sound harsh like digitals often do. While this solution may invovle the purchase of some new gear, since when has that ever been a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevmo Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Cheapest fix that works + EMU B3 module Tweaks and cards only get you 50% there Kevin T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Norlander Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 Hi all, The QS keyboards are now 10 years old, and the organs on their own likely don't quite hold up against the excellent current "clonewheels" like the Korg CX-3, Roland VK-8(m) and NI B4. I say "on their own" because with some outboard processing, you can get the QS organs to sound very, very good. The ultimate outboard processing is real Leslie speaker; the next best thing IMO is the Motion Sound gear. After that, any good overdrive and leslie simulator will help. Even old stuff like the Dynacord 222. As far as the QS sounds themselves, there are individual drawbar samples in there as well as drawbar combinations (the first three draws, the first 4 draws, etc.), and with 4 oscillators per voice, you can customize a specific organ tone pretty easily. For Jon Lord Deep Purple tones, don't use a Leslie or Leslie simulator and bypass the QS rotary effect -- instead, start with a cleaner, more pure organ tone, and generally one that uses only the first 3 or 4 drawbars. Then run that through a good tube amp or tube amp simulator and crank the living hell out of the gain. My $0.02, Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Norlander Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 Originally posted by jay da cop: +1 on the Vintage Keys card. There are more organs, and nicely done, especially if you run it through a good leslie sim/real rotary speaker. BTW, this was recommended by Erik Norlander also. Gave it a try, it works, they really come to life. Jay Hi Jay, Oops ... looks like I just repeated myself with my post above. Oh well, hope it helps! Cheers, Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shniggens Posted October 23, 2006 Author Share Posted October 23, 2006 Can someone tell me how to tweak the EQ's? The manual isn't helping me much. Is it a global effect? Or is it a per program kind of tweak? Thanks! Amateur Hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 The best Hammond sound in my QS8, for what I play, is Ballad B, for that Al Green/gospel vibe. I programmed a patch with similar drawbar characteristics but with percussion and OD - sort of a cross between Keith's C3 and Ballad B. Those two settings got me through any organ needs when I gigged with just my QS8. David My Site Nord Electro 5D, Novation Launchkey 61, Logic Pro X, Mainstage 3, lots of plugins, fingers, pencil, paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakit Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I live on the Keith's C3 patch. Used it on KC comp 11. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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