mike g Posted April 24, 2005 Share Posted April 24, 2005 oh i got tinnitus in my elbow...no wait that's Tennis Elbow...sorry I heard ya wrong Step out of the box and grow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phait Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Wonder what stem cells might do for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analogaddict Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Phait: Wonder what stem cells might do for this. You got that right. I´m pretty confident we´ll have a cure sooner or later, espescially considering the number of people suffering from this... It´s not just musicians and industrial workers anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbyte Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 WHAT ? ? HUH ? ? "Doing things is how things get done" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynester Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Hey Jazz, you probably arent helping your ears as you have those EV SXA360 cabs dont you? you and i have a pair each! they kick out 500 watts a side! i just had my ears syringed after the band were laughing at me with my stereo cabs onstage, a lump of earwax came out my right ear half the size of a golfball ! i can now turn down and can hear clearly, at last ! Lol hope your well take it easy Roland Fantom X8 (SRX-04, SRX-07, SRX-11, SRX-12) - Yamaha Motif ES7 - Kawai MP11 - Hammond XK-1C - Korg TR Rack - Korg SG Rack - Quiklok Z72 - Quiklok SL930 - Electrovoice SXA360's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted April 25, 2005 Share Posted April 25, 2005 Originally posted by Analogaddict: Originally posted by Phait: Wonder what stem cells might do for this. You got that right. I´m pretty confident we´ll have a cure sooner or later, espescially considering the number of people suffering from this... It´s not just musicians and industrial workers anymore. Ummmmmm, somebody educate me here. What do stem cells have to do with hearing loss? Thanks, Tom "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo schultz Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Title: Stem cells as therapy for hearing loss Author(s): Li HW, Corrales CE, Edge A, Heller S Source: TRENDS IN MOLECULAR MEDICINE 10 (7): 309-315 JUL 2004 Abstract: One of the greatest challenges in the treatment of inner-ear disorders is to find a cure for the hearing loss that is caused by the loss of cochlear hair cells or spiral ganglion neurons. The recent discovery of stem cells in the adult inner ear that are capable of differentiating into hair cells, as well as the finding that embryonic stem cells can be converted into hair cells, raise hope for the future development of stem-cell-based treatment regimens. Here, we propose different approaches for using stem cells to regenerate the damaged inner ear and we describe the potential obstacles that translational approaches must overcome for the development of stem-cell-based cell-replacement therapies for the damaged inner ear.For some reason (I don't think anybody really knows why) the organ of Corti in the inner ear does not have any undifferentiated basal cells that can be used to replace dead cochlear hair cells. So when these cells die, they can't be replaced naturally. Stem cells are not the only possible treatment; gene therapy also has been shown to work. I agree that it won't be long before you guys will be hearing again like you did as a newborn baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted April 26, 2005 Author Share Posted April 26, 2005 Thanks for all your replies. Harry Likas was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Find 700 of Harry’s piano arrangements of standards for educational purposes and jazz piano tutorials at www.Patreon.com/HarryLikas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Quote by mike g: ----------------------------------------- I wear "musician ear plugs" when i'm gigging or out where I think it will be loud. the plugs are special molding to my ear with a noise filter. it's like turning the volume turned down, with out losing High or low end frequences. I have to get them remolded because they loosen over time. Go to an ear specialist to inquire about an hearing aid and the plugs. ------------------------------------------ Mike, what did that cost you? I thought about going to a doctor, or even buying generic hearing aids on line, but anything worth having is somewhat costly. No health care. Mike T. Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo schultz Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Mike, you don't need to see a doctor, just an audiologist, who makes a mold of your ear and sends it to the company that makes the plugs. The audiologist visit I think is usually free, but they take a percentage of the plug cost. In theory, you could probably make the mold yourself, and send it, though I've never done that. It might be a good idea to learn how though, since the plugs only last about a year or so and you need to be re-molded (at least that's true for me). As I recall, the total cost was about $200. They charge me about $20 when I go to get remolded, and I just keep the old filters, which last forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Lower Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by stoo schultz: Mike, you don't need to see a doctor, just an audiologist, who makes a mold of your ear and sends it to the company that makes the plugs...In theory, you could probably make the mold yourself, and send it, though I've never done that. It might be a good idea to learn how though... Hi there MikeT156, I suggest you do not try to get a mold of your ear channels by yourself, at least for the first time. I had my channels molded by an audiologist and it involves a previous checking that both channels are free of wax lumps, occasional inflammations etc. The process also involves placing a cotton tip at the bottom of the molding block, and this is the part that reaches deepest inside your channel, close to the bottom of the channel and yet not touching it. It is paramount that no piece of this cotton tip gets stuck in there. Also the performance of the plugs depend on adequate fit. To make it short, it's not rocket science at all, but you'll be better off having an audiologist doing it for you. Back to the original subject, I visited an otorhinolaryngologist yesterday (found out that right now I got a folliculitis - yeah, a pimple - inside my left ear channel which is hurting as hell) and was once again reminded of the need to do frequent audiometries in order to monitor my hearing. I've been doing it every year since 2000. So far it's perfect, but doctors advise musicians to watch out for any decrease in high-frequencies, which is where loud SPL induced hearing loss typically starts. Early detection makes for early action and can surely prevent further damage that could otherwise go unnoticed. "I'm ready to sing to the world. If you back me up". (Lennon to his bandmates, in an inspired definition of what it's all about). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike g Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Mike T the ear plugs cost about 200. and shoo it was through an audiologist that I got tested and fitted for the plugs...I also got a second opion on my hearing loss from a ears nose throat doctor. The hearing test came back the same. the audiologist is the one that does the earing aids and plugs. the molding should be refitted every year they loosen up and noise seeps thru... the filter part can be used over again unless you break it. I can't handle any loud noise now with out the plugs. I tell my band mates that if they are going to always play loud i'm not going to play. not going to go deaf for their stupidy. I had one band always tell me to turn up my monitor. I said but me thru the mains and if you can't hear me well deal with it. don't get suckered in because some half deaf musician is telling you to turn up and you do it, huring your self more. Step out of the box and grow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Stoo, Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question about stem cells. This is (good) news to me. Once again, this is a prime example of excellent information gleaned from the good folks who participate in this forum. I appreciate you guys (and ladies). Tom "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKeys Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 This is all very informative and scary. I feel for those who have already got this problem. I have hearing lose in my right ear from a busted ear drum. (Water Sports Injury) I have a lose at 2000 hz in my left ear from dim lights, thick smoke and ....... etc. As a singer, I find every type of ear plug I have used, (and I sell for a company that makes testing equipment for Audiologists), makes my vocals sound like they are coming from a hole. I can't get that open head tone and my pitch gets worse. Has anyone got a remedy for this? I sure don't need to end up with tennitus. Anyone using in Ear Monitors? Does that help reduce staqe volumn? Jim www.slowhand.us www.trickbag.net Jimmy Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. Groucho NEW BAND CHECK THEM OUT www.steveowensandsummertime.com www.jimmyweaver.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Lower Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Originally posted by dream: ...I sure don't need to end up with tennitus. Anyone using in Ear Monitors? Does that help reduce staqe volumn? Jim www.slowhand.us www.trickbag.net I am. The guys over here are probably fed up of my hyping about my In-ears... Anyway, I invested in IEM precisely because of excessive on-stage volume, the unavoidable strain in my vocals from not hearing what I was trying to sing and a genneral perception of low quality in the monitor I was getting (when I was getting any, that is). Now I have a Mackie mixer in my rig, tap line signals from the guitar and bass amplifiers, mics from the drumkit and other singers and occasionally an ambience mike placed front stage. I hear everything clear, in as low a volume as I wish to, and the effect is astonishing. No tension, no strain, absolute control. It was worth every cent I spent. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions on specific details. "I'm ready to sing to the world. If you back me up". (Lennon to his bandmates, in an inspired definition of what it's all about). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffLearman Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 There's a guy here in RTP who uses in-ear monitors for just that reason -- reduce the sound level so his hearing won't get worse that it's already gotten. I'll get you his email in case you have questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKeys Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Quote: Andre Lower I am. The guys over here are probably fed up of my hyping about my In-ears... Anyway, I invested in IEM precisely because of excessive on-stage volume, the unavoidable strain in my vocals from not hearing what I was trying to sing and a genneral perception of low quality in the monitor I was getting (when I was getting any, that is). Now I have a Mackie mixer in my rig, tap line signals from the guitar and bass amplifiers, mics from the drumkit and other singers and occasionally an ambience mike placed front stage. I hear everything clear, in as low a volume as I wish to, and the effect is astonishing. No tension, no strain, absolute control. It was worth every cent I spent. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions on specific details. -------------------------------------------------- Andre, Can use just use a mix from the monitor board or even FOH mix? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Quote Learjeff There's a guy here in RTP who uses in-ear monitors for just that reason -- reduce the sound level so his hearing won't get worse that it's already gotten. I'll get you his email in case you have questions. -------------------------------------------------- Let me know his email, I have a local Audiologist that I am going to talk to as well, she said she had something for around $100.00 US. Jim www.slowhand.us www.trickbag.net Jimmy Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. Groucho NEW BAND CHECK THEM OUT www.steveowensandsummertime.com www.jimmyweaver.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Lower Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Sure you just use a mix from the monitor board/FOH mix Dream. I only chose to brew my own monitor mix because competent monitor soundpeople are never available for the gigs we get to play. But sure you can get your monitor signal from anywhere you feel like. However, besides buying good (preferably full-isolating) earbuds, you should not risk doing without an effective Limiter. Given the characteristics of IEM, you risk permanent damage to your hearing if you ignore the use of Limiters. The cheapest way to go (BTW the one I chose) is the trivial Shure Bodypacks that include a built-in Limiter. Paid 225 bucks for my P4M, and then only because I needed a limiter... "I'm ready to sing to the world. If you back me up". (Lennon to his bandmates, in an inspired definition of what it's all about). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKeys Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Cool. that sounds like the ticket. Jim www.slowhand.us www.trickbag.net Jimmy Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. Groucho NEW BAND CHECK THEM OUT www.steveowensandsummertime.com www.jimmyweaver.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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