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Scott from MA originally started this thread on the guitar forum. Since the "Songwriting" thread has taken this sort of direction, we'll open it up a bit.

 

In other words...what songs (that a lot of people would think are TOTALLY UNHIP) do you secretly like?

 

Examples...I came out of the easy listening closet and admitted to liking "Wichita Lineman" (as well as a lot of Jimmy Webb)...Craig and Phil came out of the Burt Bacharach closet...

 

Okay, all of you...'fess up...

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* Anything from Robert Palmer's "Riptide" album

 

* '80s Doobie Brothers, especially "Minute by Minute", "What a Fool Believes", or any other song where I can't understand what the heck Michael McDonald is singing... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

 

* Almost every song on the Burt Bacharach "Look of Love" boxed set. Yes, I'll admit it -- I dig Burt too. He's great at what he does.

 

* The Carpenters' "Close to You"

 

* Midnight Star's "No Parking on the Dance Floor" ("Excuse me madam, but you're standing still in a no parking zone... If you don't get a move on that body, I'll be FORCED to give you a TICKET!" http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif )

 

* This isn't just one song, but... I dig nearly all of Steven Sondheim's work. Yeah, he writes show tunes, but they're far more harmonically/melodically/rhythmically sophisticated than other Broadway composer I've heard... *AND* he writes better lyrics than any rock or folk guy/gal I've ever listened to. Go see "Sunday in the Park with George" or "Sweeney Todd" for proof... (BTW, "Sunday in the Park with George" is a *GREAT* show about art and artists... I have a feeling many people on this board would relate to it.)

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Popmusic wrote:

 

>>>* The Carpenters' "Close to You"

 

You would genuinely be surprised at how often this tune, or the Carpenters in general, come up on these threads. I think we oughta make 'em "honorary hip folks" because so many people (many of whom otherwise listen to "hip" music) secretly love the Carpenters.

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Originally posted by Tedster:

Popmusic wrote:

 

>>>* The Carpenters' "Close to You"

 

You would genuinely be surprised at how often this tune, or the Carpenters in general, come up on these threads. I think we oughta make 'em "honorary hip folks" because so many people (many of whom otherwise listen to "hip" music) secretly love the Carpenters.

 

I don't know why I dig that song so much... The lyrics are completely goofy but there's something about the combination of the melody and Karen Carpenter's voice that just sticks with me.

 

This is a little off topic, but for those who like Karen Carpenter's voice, you might want to check out Eddi Reader, who sounds like a cross between Karen Carpenter and Joni Mitchell's early stuff, but with a Scottish accent and a production on par with k.d. lang's albums (I think they share some of the same producers/musicians). The best albums to start with are "Candyfloss and Medicine" and "Miramara"...

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Well, "Close to You" was a Bacharach song...and being that a lot here have said they dig Bacharach, that's got to be part of it. And she did have a good voice.
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Okay, Okay, I'll admit it - even though I left it off my Bacharach list (I thought it might be considered going TOO far http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif ), I also like the Carpenter's version of "Close to You". Karen Carpenter had a really smooth and rich sounding voice. Anyone have any idea about what the signal path for those recordings was?

 

 

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This message has been edited by pokeefe777@msn.com on 05-07-2001 at 12:22 AM

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I guess I'm kind of out of it, because I didn't know that Bacharach wasn't hip. The soundtrack to the first James Bond film- I mean the FIRST one, with David Niven and Woody Allen, Casino Royale, which includes "the look of love", is a winner.

 

I have no shame in admitting that I like Herb Alpert and the Tijajauna Brass and Charles Aznavour- compared to grunge rockers, Herb and Chuck are obviously big sweating stallions of wild womanizing and unbridled swank, what's to be ashamed of?

 

-CB

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>>big sweating stallions of wild womanizing and unbridled swank<<

 

YEAH, BABY!!!

 

Wild, womanizing, and swanky, until death do I part...

curvedominant

 

PS: "Come Fly With Me" by Frank Sinatra and Billy May Orchestra is my guilt-free swanky pleasure of choice. Sorry, folks, I happen to live in a guilt-free zone. Sue me, and sue my chalkstripe Venturi suit while you're at it.

Eric Vincent (ASCAP)

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...and you may as well hire a second lawyer to sue my tan and my extra-dry martini.

 

>>big sweating stallions of wild womanizing and unbridled swank<<

 

I luv that line. Only a European could be so insightful. Can I hang with you, Bobro, the next time I visit the Continent?

 

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Originally posted by Curve Dominant:

...and you may as well hire a second lawyer to sue my tan and my extra-dry martini.

 

>>big sweating stallions of wild womanizing and unbridled swank<<

 

I luv that line. Only a European could be so insightful. Can I hang with you, Bobro, the next time I visit the Continent?

 

curvedominant

 

Sure Curve, musician visitors are always welcome- but I'm an American in the classic tradition. My dad was a without-papers 'fugee from the Ukraine and my mom's family came in the 1600's.

 

In our household here (living in Vienna but making a home in Slovenia) we speak the same kind of creole that most of the musicians we know do- a mixture of German, English, Slovene and Serbo-Croation. If you've ever heard Joe Zawinul (Slav born in Austria moved to USA) speak his at-home language, it sounds something like that.

 

Musicians of Latin descent seem to have the same kind of deal the world over, but Italian/Spanish/Portugese/English.

 

So I'd have to say my perspective comes from an immigrant/refugee environment rather than specifically European or American.

 

-CB

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My #1 guilty pleasure: Abba. Okay, you can stop laughing now.

#2 guilty pleasure: Disposable pop music. But because it's disposable, I don't remember any of it .

#3: "I want it that way," Backstreet Boys. I still think it's a great song.

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-abba rocks (in thier own swedish signing sennsational way)

-pop music is supposed to be disposable. it's fleeting just like youth. that's what makes it great.

-those backside boys are just fine. lose the stupid orchestral stab sample on every tune all with the rest of the overproduction though http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

but hey now, hanson really rocks! mmmmmbop...

 

-d. gauss

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Oh yeah -- I like ABBA too, although I'm actually more partial to the Bee Gees.

 

I thought of another guilty pleasure... I still totally love the first Boston album... All of the songs are great, but "Foreplay/Long Time" is my favorite, despite the fact it goes against everything I usually dig in a song: Long rock organ solo, progressive rock-like song structure, classical-music-mixed-with-hard-rock sound, and cliched lyrics ("Time doesn't wait for me / It keeps on rolllllllin'...")...

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Well, in the guitar forum I already admitted my secret admiration for John Denver. I can't think of anything worse than that (sorry, I was never into ABBA). However, I will say that I've always been a sucker for old Big Band swing music... anything with a lot of brass. I used to play trumpet back in high school, and I was the bass player for a jazz ensemble for a few years.

Scott

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Why guilty? Tedster, anything YOU like is the hippest thing in the world. I mean, your own brain is the world's most exclusive club, you know?

1)"Get Down Tonight" - KC and the Sunshine Band

2)"Jungle Boogie" and "Hollywood Swinging" - Kool and the Gang

3)"Everybody Wants Some" - Van Halen

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Well, Fet, the thread title was Scott from MA's...but, it's true, the "go ahead and laugh" philosophy Craig stated has a hold on many of us.

 

Us musicians (a lot of us anyway) usually (consciously or subconsciously) try to "outhip" each other by admitting to listening to stuff further and further away from the mainstream..."Dude, I just bought (some late jazz musician's) first release, recorded in 1953 at a club in New York. I mean, this thing is so hip and obscure NO one's heard it in 40 years!" You know what I mean...but admitting to liking easy listening public fare, radio drivel if you will, a lot of folks recoil at, but secretly love. If you don't fall into that category, cool! You're honest!

 

Supposed to be a fun thread, anyway... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gifhttp://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gifhttp://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Originally posted by pokeefe777@msn.com:

Karen Carpenter had a really smooth and rich sounding voice. Anyone have any idea about what the signal path for those recordings was?

 

"sooth and rich" - understatement. I'd be interested in that as well. I think Roger Nichols once responded to an inquiry I had about that same subject, but I'd be interested in other sundry bits as well....

 

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Dio "Last in Line" (the whole release)

"Space Age Love Song" by Flock of Seagulls (I love this so much that I covered it for a New Wave compilation on Cleoopatra Records!)

"Yummy Yummy Yummy (I've Got Love in my Tummy)" by 1910 Fruitgum Co

"Hitch a Ride" Boston

 

Much of this, especially the first and the last things I've listed here, are not only just not cool, but really in incredibly bad taste. OH, well.

 

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Originally posted by Ken/Eleven Shadows:

"Space Age Love Song" by Flock of Seagulls (I love this so much that I covered it for a New Wave compilation on Cleoopatra Records!)

 

Small world- check out the version of Fade to Grey on that same album, by Trance to the Sun- Ash and Marc are my friends from way back when, in fact I built the Ash's 7-string guitar (my brother in law did the wiring and turned the stainless knobs) and he'll be playing on the project I'm working on now, courtesy of the Internet. Haven't seen either of them for a good 8 years.

 

New Wave is much too cool to be ashamed of, though.

 

But no-one has mentioned Kaja-GooGoo or Haircut 100- sorry I'm not cool enough to actually like them!

 

Cameron Bobro

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Originally posted by Tedster:

Well, Fet, the thread title was Scott from MA's...

 

Yep... but you did a fine job explaining it Tedster.

 

Does anyone remember the scene in Tommy Boy when Farley and Spade are in the car and the Carpenters come on the radio (I think it's "Superstar")? Neither will admit to liking the song, but neither will change the station either. That scene cracks me up, because we are all like that!

 

BTW... if you liked Kool & the Gang's "Jungle Boogie", then check out the 24-7 Spyz version of it.

Scott

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Originally posted by popmusic:

I thought of another guilty pleasure... I still totally love the first Boston album...

 

Guilty pleasure listening to Boston? I would declare someone "guilty" if they did NOT listen to that album!

 

My guilt:

1. Sentimental Lady

2. Old (early 70s) Bee Gees

3. "Cum On Feel the Noiz" - of course, I always get a headache after the second verse.

 

- Zip

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Originally posted by Zippy FishHead:

Guilty pleasure listening to Boston? I would declare someone "guilty" if they did NOT listen to that album!

- Zip

 

Color me guilty. But I admire your balls for standing up for your egregious transgressions against good taste.

 

Then again, I sing along with the theme from "Power Rangers" when I'm visiting the little cousins and they're watching it (with subtitles- talk about twisted) so maybe I'd better not cast the first stone.

 

-CB

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Originally posted by Zippy FishHead:

Guilty pleasure listening to Boston? I would declare someone "guilty" if they did NOT listen to that album!

 

Just call me Mr. Guilty then! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

Scott

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I LOVED Boston...the first seven hundred thousand times I heard it. After that, it lost a bit of its charm...

 

Speaking of catchy AM radio oldie pop..."Love Grows Where My Rosemary Goes" by Edison Lighthouse..."Build Me Up Buttercup" and "Baby Now That I Found You" by the Foundations...

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And I thought this thread was about such classy acts as The Residents, The Normal and Snakefinger... the kind of skeletons you might find in my closet. But what do I read?: Carpenters, Boston, Milli Vanilli... only Captain and Tennile is missing it seems, you guys sure are a sick bunch!

 

Well, banjo players...

 

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Pat Boone - Love Letters in the Sand.

 

I heard him sing it a few dozen times when my dad was his drummer in the early 70's.

 

Pat called songs like this "pretty music"

 

Just want you all to know though that Boone faimly are really a great bunch.

 

Robert Morin

Still at Alesis

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