Franz Schiller Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Hey there! I'm thinking about using some iPad sequencers with my Kurzweil PC4-7. I'm considering trying a bluetooth MIDI adapter, such as the Yamaha MD-BT01. If that works out well, I'd likely try using it for controlling iPad synth apps, too. Anyone have any experience with these? Is latency an issue? Not so bad? Thoughts, opinions? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Gauss Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 get the 11 dollar one from aliexpress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I believe they got latency down with Bluetooth v4 which is what the Yamaha MD-BT01 is based on. It has a lot to do with distance - so the further away you need to transmit from the greater the delay. 1 Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Gauss Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 forgot the link: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805388086678.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.15.6c371decrDt9Ki&algo_pvid=88edf242-fbe1-43f6-ae7b-4f43f7bdd7bf&aem_p4p_detail=202404150750352254074347547210007943985&algo_exp_id=88edf242-fbe1-43f6-ae7b-4f43f7bdd7bf-7&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!21.88!11.38!!!158.00!82.16!%402103011017131926351385304e1177!12000033606935637!sea!US!895263882!&curPageLogUid=AoQtJ7VRDeII&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A&search_p4p_id=202404150750352254074347547210007943985_3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, D. Gauss said: forgot the link: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805388086678.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.15.6c371decrDt9Ki&algo_pvid=88edf242-fbe1-43f6-ae7b-4f43f7bdd7bf&aem_p4p_detail=202404150750352254074347547210007943985&algo_exp_id=88edf242-fbe1-43f6-ae7b-4f43f7bdd7bf-7&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!21.88!11.38!!!158.00!82.16!%402103011017131926351385304e1177!12000033606935637!sea!US!895263882!&curPageLogUid=AoQtJ7VRDeII&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A&search_p4p_id=202404150750352254074347547210007943985_3 Thanks for the heads-up. I just ordered it. I don't have an immediate need for it but it'll be in my gig bag just in case. I'm also a sucker for a potentially good deal because I'm a cheap old fart. I've been burned a few times but all-in-all I've come out ahead with my cheapness. Quote Gigs: Nord 5D 73, Kurz PC4-7 & SP4-7, Hammond SK1, Yamaha MX88 & P121, Numa Compact 2x, Casio CGP700, QSC K12, Yamaha DBR10, JBL515xt(2). Alto TS310(2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinLeo Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I’m using this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BTCXK3C2?ref_=cm_sw_r_mwn_dp_VQTEHQ462AAXYFH7RD8V&language=es-US No latency at all 👌 Quote NS4 73HA, Yamaha MODX7+, Korg C1 Air, Roland TD1-DMK, Harley Benton TalkBox, Sony F-760 dynamic microphone, Scarlett 2i2 3rd gen, M-Audio Track Duo, MacBook Air M1, Logic Pro 11, Kontakt 7, Mainstage, Cubasis 3 (IOS), Korg Module (IOS), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose EB5AGV Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 CME WIDI devices work perfectly for me: https://www.cme-pro.com/widi-premium-bluetooth-midi/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Gauss Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Can't speak for the others, but the cheapie aliexpress one also acts a pseudo host. E.g. I use one to send wireless sysex commands from an ipad to a zoom fx floor pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 My inclination would be to stick with the CME WIDI devices rather than the no-names. They're not expensive, and CME actually provides online support and firmware upgrades, and they have a whole ecosystem of related devices that you know have been designed/tested to work properly together. 2 Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Agreed with AnotherScott. The CME line-up is great and so is their support. 1 Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Schiller Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 Thanks everyone! Super useful info. Much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, AnotherScott said: My inclination would be to stick with the CME WIDI devices rather than the no-names. They're not expensive, and CME actually provides online support and firmware upgrades, and they have a whole ecosystem of related devices that you know have been designed/tested to work properly together. And the CME WIDI is built on Bluetooth v5! Even better. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Kent Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 On latency: The choice of devices does influence the overall latency. Some combinations are better than others. A CME device to another CME device has 3-5 ms latency. Very good. These stats are a few years old and I hope I remember them correctly, but I think are still valid: Any device connection to an iPhone or iPad has 14ms latency, based on the service interval provided by iOS. Any device connection to a Mac has 11.5ms latency, based on the service interval provided by MacOS. 1 Quote Mike Kent - Chairman of MIDI 2.0 Working Group - MIDI Association Executive Board - Co-Author of USB Device Class Definition for MIDI Devices 1.0 and 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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