Dave Bryce Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Another classic behemoth from the Cherry Audio folks! Introductory pricing of $49. dB 2 1 Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 With Resonators, too!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, marino said: With Resonators, too!! ....and the option to choose between the PS filter or a nastier MS filter. 😎 dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Just ordered mine off of some new place called the MPN Shop. 3 1 Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 57 minutes ago, Dave Bryce said: ...and the option to choose between the PS filter or a nastier MS filter. 😎 Plus chorus/delay/reverb... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Wait a minute: The factory demo video mentioned that the PS series used divide-down circuits. This is new to me; I have always thought that it had true whole polyphony, one voice card per key. Does anyone know the truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I always heard they were divide down. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, mate stubb said: I always heard they were divide down. Me as well. dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherryDan Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, marino said: Wait a minute: The factory demo video mentioned that the PS series used divide-down circuits. This is new to me; I have always thought that it had true whole polyphony, one voice card per key. Does anyone know the truth? The Korg PS-3300 is full polyphony. 48 synthesizers per key times 3, for a total of 144 individual envelopes, and filter circuits! The oscillators are indeed divide-down from 12 master oscillators per panel, which is why the Temperament Controls allow you to detune the individual notes. What this means is that every C, C#, D, etc. key will be in perfect tune with all others. Without the divide-down design, the task of tuning 144 individual analog oscillators would likely be a nightmare. And of course the divide-down oscillator design allowed them to save on circuitry for a synthesizer that is already packed full of an insane amount of wires and circuitry. In comparison, the Polymoog also uses divide-down oscillators, but unlike the PS-3300, the envelopes are filters are paraphonic. This compromise led to the Polymoog being a much more 'portable' instrument, but the paraphonic nature pales in comparison to the PS-3300's immense capabilities. Dan @ Cherry Audio 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Thanks Dan, the PS3300 is one of the few historical synths that I've never played... btw it's clearer now: It's true polyphony except for the oscillators, which are based on frequency dividers. And of course, now I'm curious about the lfos... global or poly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 My one issue is simple: do I have the fortitude to do right by a modular, even a semi-normalized one? It'll depend on whether or not I can find a decent angle on it. I can look at it as 3 beefed-up MonoPolys in a box. I had one for a while and liked the tone; three in one place will likely banish the thinness of the original. I like seeing the issues with old brute-force approaches become meaningless because CPU power banishes them. I can't seem to make the leap to an Oberheim Four/Eight-Voice. The 3300 feels like a more accessible form to me, partly due to my Korg history. Next: simmering in the inevitable hot tub of sound demos, deciding if it fills a need or if its just shiny. Cherry Audio does shiny quite well. 💪 Quote “The joy of dogs is that they free us of our own undignified existence, our self-consciousness and inhibitions; our self-imposed hindrances to pleasure; our unwillingness to be embarrassed, exposed, or vulnerable.” ~ Alexandra Horowitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 FWIW I find Cherry's PS20 to be a very character-ful, ballsy, and great sounding instrument. I've had large fun with it. The new PS 3300 should be a similar wow. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Cherry Audio's GX80 is where I find deep, yet subtle sounds. This one's different. A bit of the brash MonoPoly vibe but with more layers and polyphony. Plus, the MS20 filter opens up a world of edgy tones you could never get from a MonoPoly. A must-try for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 17 hours ago, cherryDan said: Without the divide-down design, the task of tuning 144 individual analog oscillators would likely be a nightmare. I used to spend 3 hours every Sunday tuning the 18 oscillators in my MemoryMoog. I cannot imagine 144. By the time you got the last one tuned the first one would be out again. Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Installed. I think this may be my favorite so far. Quote This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Tatum Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 23 hours ago, Dave Bryce said: ....and the option to choose between the PS filter or a nastier MS filter. 😎 dB Pardon the dumb question, but what's a PS filter, and what's an MS filter? I mean, I know about filters, basically, but I just don't know what those terms, PS and MS, mean. Tried googling it to no avail. Does it mean something specific, or could they just as well have been named "Filter A" and Filter B"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Floyd Tatum said: Pardon the dumb question, but what's a PS filter, and what's an MS filter? I mean, I know about filters, basically, but I just don't know what those terms, PS and MS, mean. Tried googling it to no avail. PS filter is a model of the filter in the actual PS-3300 synthesizer. The MS filter is the filter that Korg had in the MS-20 among others. 2 Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Tatum Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike Martin said: One of a model of the filter in the actual PS-3300 synthesizer. The MS filter is the filter that Korg had in the MS-20 among others. I see. Thanks! I suspected that PS-style referred to the original PS-3300, but couldn't figure out what MS-style might refer to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 While I don't currently NEED another synth, I 💗 Cherry Audio, so I've been looking for a way to justify this one. I'm afraid I found it. If I layer three instances, I can theoretically build one hell of a Trident. Oh dear, they handed a bottle of Old Fortran to a synth lush. Quote “The joy of dogs is that they free us of our own undignified existence, our self-consciousness and inhibitions; our self-imposed hindrances to pleasure; our unwillingness to be embarrassed, exposed, or vulnerable.” ~ Alexandra Horowitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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