MAJUSCULE Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I finally upgraded to OS 2.1 recently. Eez nice. Patch remain is definitely a thing. Not sure about the exact polyphony stuff, but I haven't run out of voices either, even when using all ten fingers. Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Yay another owner! If neither of you are running into polyphony issues, maybe it really does have an honest 24 voices (which would be 12 with a full layer). Any opinions on sync sweeps Majuscule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod betamax Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I did an experiment with taking two 3 oscillator patches, and layering them. I was able to play with all 10 digits. I did not hear the usual Waldorf cut notes. (I have 4 other Waldorf products as well) Centre Point Stereo Monitor 10" mini tremor sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod betamax Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 In regards to synch sweep. Select Osc2 only. Synch to OSC3. Set LFO 1 speed to 10 Set LFO1 amount to 38. Set LFO1 to control OSC1 and OSC2 only. Set LFO to Triangle Wave Extra Credits: Play around with FM on OSC3!!!1 Centre Point Stereo Monitor 10" mini tremor sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I did an experiment with taking two 3 oscillator patches, and layering them. I was able to play with all 10 digits. I did not hear the usual Waldorf cut notes. (I have 4 other Waldorf products as well) Good to know thanks for reporting! Regarding sync sweeps, my question wasn't how to do them (I've been setting up sync sweeps on analog synths for over 40 years) but if the Sledge could recreate them realistically. Since it's such a common sound, both SOS and Keyboard gave it a shot in their reviews. SOS said no (on the original Sledge) but Keyboard inferred yes on Sledge 2.0 - but wasn't all that definite about it either. That's not exactly how I'd set up the classic tearing sound of an analog sync sweep but I appreciate your efforts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod betamax Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 You sound like you are even older than me! I was born in 1963, so the first time I saw a synth was a home made modular whilst I was collecting for the London Free Press (Ontario not UK) back in 1975 at the age of 12. At my tender age of 52 I am more into modifiers on the Blofeld, and I leave analog to those who know better than me Good to know thanks for reporting! Regarding sync sweeps, my question wasn't how to do them (I've been setting up sync sweeps on analog synths for over 40 years) but if the Sledge could recreate them realistically. Since it's such a common sound, both SOS and Keyboard gave it a shot in their reviews. SOS said no (on the original Sledge) but Keyboard inferred yes on Sledge 2.0 - but wasn't all that definite about it either. That's not exactly how I'd set up the classic tearing sound of an analog sync sweep but I appreciate your efforts! Centre Point Stereo Monitor 10" mini tremor sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 It's all good Mark Although a good sync sweep is an awesome thing to behold on leads, by far my biggest concern was decent polyphony in the real world. A little story about VA polyphony and specs: My V-Synth is listed by Roland as 24 voices (with that qualifier "max" tagged on the end). But once you start loading a patch up with supersaws and COSMs that polyphony quickly gets reduced to as few as 5. With latency issues. It greatly affects how I use this board, which (at least live) is not much at all frankly. OTOH I can imagine doing at least some gigs with nothing but a Sledge Black on my black Z stand - if the polyphony holds and the acoustic pianos are at least somewhat passable. But I have a big imagination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod betamax Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I made a 10 finger chord on Layered 3 Oscillator patch, so I have to say that it has the polyphony as advertised. However, have not tested with wavetables or samples though. Although my Sledge is my new newest poly synth, I still spend my greatest time programming the 3 Blofelds I have. Centre Point Stereo Monitor 10" mini tremor sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje31 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Can the programming you've done on the Blofelds transfer to the Sledge? Aren't a lot of the guts and controls common to both? Or do I have that wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 But I have a big imagination I'm looking forward to auditioning one of these when they finally ship. Hope your imagination is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I highly doubt I'll run across a Sledge in the wild, so will have to buy one on faith - trusting Waldorf's reputation, Fatar's better keybeds (which I've had several - np), and online reviews. Hope that's not a mistake. At one time I was considering a KingKorg until I actually played one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 website is up with audio examples Looks darker. Feels better. Sounds stronger. Pianos, both AP's and EP's are not impressive by today's standards on the audio examples. That doesn't mean they couldn't be usable on a band gig. Certainly not why I would ever buy one of these, but nice to have on board for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod betamax Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Yes! A Waldorf Blofeld keyboard (not the module with no midi out) can control most parameters on the Sledge. It gives you extra benefits such as detuning Osc1 on the Sledge (not possible from front Sledge panel) You can select ALL the Blofeld filters on the Sledge such as Notch, Comb, PPG, as well as disable. Filter 2 Params on the Blofeld can be used to hack the reverb and delay on the Sledge. As the Sledge only has one filter but the Blofeld has two, there are that control unexpected entities on the Blofeld. But in reality the second filter is that layer on the Sledge (something the Blofeld does not have, except via multimode) I have posted some of my hacked reverb patches on my Sledge II facebook group. A synth "so popular" that I have 6 members!lol Can the programming you've done on the Blofelds transfer to the Sledge? Aren't a lot of the guts and controls common to both? Or do I have that wrong? Centre Point Stereo Monitor 10" mini tremor sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod betamax Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 On my Sledge, I deleted the factory samples and added in the Mellotron samples for the Blofeld. website is up with audio examples Looks darker. Feels better. Sounds stronger. Pianos, both AP's and EP's are not impressive by today's standards on the audio examples. That doesn't mean they couldn't be usable on a band gig. Certainly not why I would ever buy one of these, but nice to have on board for sure. Centre Point Stereo Monitor 10" mini tremor sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Mike Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 It kind of odd that there are no pure synth examples. Everything is an emulation example. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 On my Sledge, I deleted the factory samples and added in the Mellotron samples for the Blofeld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 It kind of odd that there are no pure synth examples. Everything is an emulation example. probably (hopefully) the web page is still a work in progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Really really odd. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Lots of the reviews I see from owners mention great sound and fragile hardware. Lots of issues for some reviewers. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Hopefully this "new model" is better constructed than the original if this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 What have people been using for a case? Also, Mark, what's the name of that Facebook group? I looked but didn't find it. Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod betamax Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 The FB group is called "Studiologic Sledge II" What have people been using for a case? Also, Mark, what's the name of that Facebook group? I looked but didn't find it. Centre Point Stereo Monitor 10" mini tremor sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Still can't find it... Is it a private group? Can you maybe add me to it? Eric Doucet Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Yeah I was looking for it too with no luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 Here you go, gents: https://www.facebook.com/groups/813014818827075/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Nice! Thanks, Scott. Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod betamax Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Bill H: I don't believe I have done a video on synch sweeps (yet) Be carefull with patch remains, yes the Sledge does do this, but it you change patches with AutoLayer/AutoSplit enabled in the globals,(with your hands still on the keyboard) you will end up with exactly that. Now if you let go of your fingers on a patch and swtich during the release portion of the old patch, the old one will still sound as you select the new one. Centre Point Stereo Monitor 10" mini tremor sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod betamax Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 A sine synch tutorial Centre Point Stereo Monitor 10" mini tremor sub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWkeys Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 So I've been thinking of selling my Sledge to offset the cost of an OB6, but it really is rewarding to dig into. I just programmed this sound today, and thought it sounded a bit CS-80ish, so I improv-ed UK's "Danger Money", recorded it poorly on my cell phone and posted it SoundCloud for the heck of it. Here's the link, if you're interested: https://soundcloud.com/ageddon/voice-0821 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Love those intro chords. Well done! Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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