FnB Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 ... that it's already been written? That's one of my biggest problems. Case 1 - I'm doodling on the guitar and come up with what I think is a catchy hook. Record that and add a some backing to it. Go and grab a fresh pair of ears to have a listen. "That hook is from A1's Caught in the Middle" "Sorry who?" "They're a boy band. Get lots of radio play." "Ah ok." Scratch that one. Case 2 - I'm doodling on the piano. Nice little chord progression going. "That's the end of the chorus on Sugar Ray's Every Morning... You know the bit that goes Aaah ah aaaaah Every morning ah aaaah every morning shut the door baby don't say a word." "If you say so." I don't know whether to stop listening to the radio cos I'm obviously subliminally (that's a word) picking up the music, or maybe I should just write some new lyrics. Cough and Spittle - yeah that fits... Anyone else with similar problems? Chris Griffin: Yo, did y'all check me when that hottie was all up in my Kool-Aid? Yeah, I was looking to break off a little somethin' somethin' but my crew gave me the 411 on that skank and she's all about the bling-bling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Yep I've done that before The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alndln Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Originally posted by FnB: Anyone else with similar problems?Everyone does to a degree,it's subtle innocence that makes the difference,and yeah,what your listening to on a regaular basis. "A Robot Playing Trumpet Blows" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Happened to me just yesterday. C'est la vie...easy come, easy go... "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Knutson Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Originally posted by FnB: Anyone else with similar problems?Sure. I've released CDs before I realized which song I'd ripped off. D'oh! I always wondered why nobody else ever noticed. https://bunny.bandcamp.com/ https://theystolemycrayon.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixterRader Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Damn Not me I'm totally original all the time! Be a professional musician. Or just sound like one! Produce music with THOUSANDS of loops and effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Knutson Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Originally posted by MixterRader: Damn Not me I'm totally original all the time!Heheh. https://bunny.bandcamp.com/ https://theystolemycrayon.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ani Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Originally posted by MixterRader: Damn Not me I'm totally original all the time!Yes, you certainly are Brett!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherri Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Happens all the time. www.metalblues.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Don't worry too much if you've written a chord progression that sounds like something you've heard before. If your melody is different, you're cool. I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barandine Vondenger Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 I took chords from two eagles tunes and writ a ditty that many folkes say sounds like PINK FLOYD.(mothersday) At the time I know NO floyd tunes. I did my (OLD LOVE), a reggae tune and some folkes say it sound like that SHAGGY (angel of the mornin')tune. I purposly DO NOT listen to other music while I'm in the recording process. no radio or tapes of anything that might SWAY me musically on a subconsious level. I try very much to make my own way EXCEPT when I am HONORING a player such as: TAMPA RED; then I'll COPY him exactly. Frank Ranklin and the Ranktones WARP SPEED ONLY STREAM FRANKIE RANKLIN (Stanky Franks) <<< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrix Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Happens most often with titles of songs. Fortunaltely, titles are not copyrightable. As for chord progression - the matching strinhg of chords has to be long enough to constitute a rip off legally. Same for melodies. Common bits and pieces, if they are short, are not necessarily an issue. I forget the specifics- but you can look this up in one of the music business books that talks about copyrights. Check out some tunes here: http://www.garageband.com/artist/KenFava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisDude Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 PLAGIARIZE, v. To take the thought or style of another writer whom one has never, never read. -Ambrose Bierce from The Devil's Dictionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeton Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Yeah, it happens to me sometimes. I had some long ass jam that our HS band used to do. I called it something ghey like Powerchord Symphony. Looking back, i see a few riffs from Mustaine's Call of Ktulu, and some chunky rhythm guitar stuff from a song by another band on the circuit at the time I've even realised later that some of my thrashmetal songs have some stuff lifted from the massive amount of surf tunes i used to listen to as a youngin'. Nobody else seemed to notice, though, or maybe they didn't say anything. In my defence, i had a lot of other really cool riffs in there that were my own, though. Also, i notice that the older i get, and the more my horizon of listened-to music expands, the harder it is to keep from doing this. It's as if your subconscious is saying "oh, hell, we can snag this fast and chunky rhythm guitar run from Megadeth's Hook In Mouth, paraphrase it, slow it down and use it for a bassline in this funk-jazz ditty! It's a different genre, he won't know!" and stuff. Dammit all to hell. Dr. Seuss: The Original White Rapper . WWND? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexoffset Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 This is interesting...it brings back that theory that everything that CAN be written HAS already been written. Hell, in a traditional sense, we've only got 12 notes to work with (excluding microtonal, and other funky tunings). How many songs all use the same chord progression but are separated by only the slightest bit of originality that makes them entirely unique once again? I had a friend that had recently learned to play a guitar and was tinkering around one afternoon. He was picking around the notes of a chord progression I was familiar with. By him not knowing the song, he had a different swing, a different sequence of picking the notes in the chord, etc. that made the song unique to him. Even with synthesizers and keyboards, just changing patches can make a mundane chord progression interesting. I've always wanted to research how we can hear the same chord progressions and subtle variations of melodies yet willingly suspend our knowledge that we've already heard it before and still find a way to enjoy it. Sorry...I guess I'm getting too philosophical now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeton Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 I've always wanted to research how we can hear the same chord progressions and subtle variations of melodies yet willingly suspend our knowledge that we've already heard it before and still find a way to enjoy it. Sorry...I guess I'm getting too philosophical now... No need to apologise I follow what you say, and i find it interesting also. Just the other day i heard some top 40 pop thing (some autotuned chick singing over manufactured music). The chord progression was undeniably Pachelbel's Canon in D. I picked it right out, probably because i greatly dislike Pop-Music type stuff, and i had no interest in it at all. Yet, in my recent exploits of messing with early Pink Floyd songs, a lot of them are just 3, 4 or 5 chord things, some of them pretty generic. But since they are something i'm interested in, and something that hasn't been done in a long time, they sound fresh, new and exciting all over again. There's definately an "ear of the beholder" thing going into it, i think. How we hear the same old changes and things is affected by our state of mind or interest, like you say. Dr. Seuss: The Original White Rapper . WWND? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymar Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Didn't Vanilla Ice have that problem? I've done that only to have to delete it, what's worse is realizing that you've written the tune before! Steve You shouldn't chase after the past or pin your hopes on the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradivoro Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 The funniest experience I had in this dept was, I was doing a lot of theater work at one point, and had written music for 2 shows, simultaneously... One show was in the process of being produced, and the other one was being written... anyway, one time, while going ot the rehearsal for the one being produced, I heard somebody playing piano in the distance... I said to myself "hey, that tune sounds familiar", but I couldn't figure out who wrote it... About a minute later I realized, that's my tune, the music director was playing it... www.soundclick.com/paulradelat www.123writemelody.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Yeah, Blue's Traveler has a song to the tune of Pachelbel's Canon too. I don't think I nick stuff very often, but you can't exactly copyrite the boogie bass pattern or the A, A add F# thang. If you could, Chuck Berry could sue everyone! -David http://www.garageband.com/artist/MichaelangelosMuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxnvox Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 I know it happened to Krusty the Clown one time when he was on a plane with Dean Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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