RABid Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Im surprised Keyboard Magazine never reviews pianos. Most every keyboard player wants a real piano at some point. We all get questions from family, friends and coworkers who want to buy their first piano. The range of price, quality and value available is overwhelming. Some guidance from our favorite magazine involving keyboards would be helpful. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 where would they start ? 1900 ? Spinets ? Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I don't think they have the knowledge base. "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogut Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Pianomag.com... just a thought -Greg Motif XS8, MOXF8, Hammond XK1c, Vent Rhodes Mark II 88 suitcase, Yamaha P255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe P Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Im surprised Keyboard Magazine never reviews pianos. Most every keyboard player wants a real piano at some point. We all get questions from family, friends and coworkers who want to buy their first piano. The range of price, quality and value available is overwhelming. Some guidance from our favorite magazine involving keyboards would be helpful. Maybe they consider it too broad a topic, but I wouldn't mind seeing it treated even in a general way. The mag also seems to omit classical players, e.g. Van Cliburn competition never got a mention to my knowledge. Regards, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 First laugh of the day. Thanks! No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Piano has been a sovereign entity since seceding from keyboards back in the early 80s. Ever since gaining popularity, keyboards have been extending olive branches to piano in the form of imitation. To date, it has been a lukewarm affair. PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahZark Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Good question, RABid. Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Grace Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Well for one thing, it might be a little harder to take delivery of review units. Best, Geoff My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahZark Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Nothing a visit to a local piano shop couldn't solve. Give the shop a quick plug in the magazine, and I bet they'd let the editors sit in there all day playing the different models to their hearts content..... Noah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Yeah, look how Steve and Tom Brislin struggled manfully with the V Piano - think they would need to enlist Jordan Rudess too to get anything heavier up the stairs! Yamaha: P515, CP88, Genos 1, HX1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Nothing a visit to a local piano shop couldn't solve. Give the shop a quick plug in the magazine, and I bet they'd let the editors sit in there all day playing the different models to their hearts content..... Noah Bingo. They could have pianist(s) from every genre come through and play. That would be a really nice mag issue. PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahZark Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 They could have pianist(s) from every genre come through and play. That would be a really nice mag issue. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I wanna see accordion reviews too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humannoyed Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I don't think they have the knowledge base. Ouch! "It is a danger to create something and risk rejection. It is a greater danger to create nothing and allow mediocrity to rule." "You owe it to us all to get on with what you're good at." W.H. Auden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Steinway D review by Stephen Fortner Pros Killer piano sound Incredibly responsive action that feels just like a real piano No audible sampling artifacts Cons Only one sound No touchscreen No editing capabilities No arpeggiator Expensive Heavy "Key Buy" Award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Grace Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Sorry about my feeble attempt at humor. Yes, one would probably do some sort of on-site review. Steve sent me to Yamaha, Roland, and Kawai headquarters to write a roundup a few years ago. It's doable. Less ideal, but doable. Best, Geoff My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I wanna see accordion reviews too. Lines must be drawn. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Grace Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Steinway D review by Stephen Fortner Pros Killer piano sound Incredibly responsive action that feels just like a real piano No audible sampling artifacts Cons Only one sound No touchscreen No editing capabilities No arpeggiator Expensive Heavy Only available as an 88-key model. Best, Geoff My Blue Someday appears on Apple Music | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timwat Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I wanna see accordion reviews too. Lines must be drawn. And offenders prosecuted to the full extent of the law. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Well for one thing, it might be a little harder to take delivery of review units. Best, Geoff ... and you could not base an opinion on just one Steinway; you'd have to play ten Steinway's of the same exact model and then pick the two or three that are the ... good ones. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferris Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I don't think they have the knowledge base. In a sense, that's correct. Most if not all of the reviewers are guys that came up in "bands", not pianists, Classical or Jazz people who have spent their whole life just studying the instrument. It's just not their area of expertise. Also the reviews would be highly subjective to one's taste and style of music played. Most Classical folks hate Yamahas and Kawais--too bright. A lot of Rock/Pop people think Steinways are too stiff and don't cut in a track. Some Jazz guys like myself feel the Bosendorfers, while probably having the best build quality in the world in addition to that beautiful, unique singing tone, would not be their first choice. I also think the price point is so out of reach for the average Keyboard reader. I'm pricing the Yamaha C3 for a friend's daughter who's getting a bit more serious in her Classical studies and I'm getting a price of around 25-29K + Ca. tax for a new model. The Nord Stage seems like a steal comparatively. https://soundcloud.com/dave-ferris https://www.youtube.com/@daveferris2709 2005 NY Steinway D Yamaha AvantGrand N3X, CP88, P515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmp Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Folks who call actions keybeds shouldn't talk about pianos. --wmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 To be fair, "action" would imply a whole lot more than the mechanicals present in a DP. The bits that are usually left inside one of those might reasonably referred to as the "keybed", even by a piano tech. Yamaha: P515, CP88, Genos 1, HX1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe P Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Steinway D review by Stephen Fortner Pros Killer piano sound Incredibly responsive action that feels just like a real piano No audible sampling artifacts Cons Only one sound No touchscreen No editing capabilities No arpeggiator Expensive Heavy Only available as an 88-key model. Best, Geoff No MIDI Out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 No MIDI Out. No USB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I wanna see accordion reviews too. Lines must be drawn. Okay, no accordions, but I demand Harmoniums be included! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Song80s Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 the picky piano players would drive the Keyboard staff crazy Why fit in, when you were born to stand out ? My Soundcloud with many originals: [70's Songwriter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 How come Keyboard doesn't put out quality articles like this one? http://pianoandsynth.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/my-first-piano-red-ii.jpg Ten Toy Pianos You and Your Child Will Love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthoid Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I wanna see accordion reviews too. Lines must be drawn. Okay, no accordions Thank you! When an eel hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's a Moray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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