M Peasley Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Autotune is changing our ears - making us think a "perfect" vocal pitch-wise is an absolute necessity. It's like airbrushing the photo so the girl looks like she's totally perfect - I prefer the real thing along with the flaws. So here's my vote for a great vocal that's really out of tune in places, but it really don't matter: Don Henley's "End of the Innocence" List some more to help make this important point.... M Peasley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martianrebel Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 umm... anything I sing??? Does that count? :D -{m}- What's these knobs for? http://www.martianrebel.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsthang Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Anything Seal sang live, I never heard someone sing a quarter step out of pitch so confidently and consistently.... overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffbayson Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 How 'bout anything sung by... Robert Plant Mick Jagger Bob Dylan Jim Morrison Tom Waits PJ Harvey They often stray out of tune. I'd take them any day over Ashanti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael saulnier Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 [i]Helpless[/i] by Neil Young... And a number of other Neil songs... So "bad"... it's GOOD! guitplayer I'm still "guitplayer"! Check out my music if you like... http://www.michaelsaulnier.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Peasley Posted August 29, 2003 Author Share Posted August 29, 2003 To clarify, I'd make a distinction between vocalists who purposefully sing all over the place just as part of their style - like Dylan and Neil Young and Waits - vs. vocalists who really have some pipes like Henley and Plant and Morrison. In other words, to make the point that truly good vocals even from a real singer's point of view doesn't have to be antiseptically and artificially in perfect tune. M Peasley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsthang Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Lenord Cohen, great tenor voice but a bit shaky on the pitch. overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 I wish I could sing as out of tune as Don Henley. "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meccajay Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Mary J Blige's 1st 3 albums... TROLL . . . ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog951 Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Anthony Kiedis (sic?), the guy in the Chili Peppers, is ALWAYS out of tune. I'm not really a huge fan of theirs but I'm just amazed by how they manage to somehow make the overall mix still sound professional or at least "okay." When I sing one note a little out, it's really noticeable and unprofessional sounding. The engineers on the Chili Peppers stuff are doing something to make it still sound like a record, I just can't figure out what the hell it is... None more black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Zeger Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 [i]Oh baby, you...you got what I need...[/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Knutson Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 I personally don't think Anthony Keidis should have EVER tried to sing. He is a punk-rapper, not a singer. Even Autotune couldn't help that voice. The reason it sounds even remotely acceptible is because his backing band is so damn good. I think we're straying off course here a bit. The topic is the "BEST vocals sung out of tune," not the most popular. I'll nominate Robert Smith and Morrissey. https://bunny.bandcamp.com/ https://theystolemycrayon.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside studios Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Astrid Gilberto, "Girl from Ipanema"? Just a little bit flat.Verrry sexy. Also Georgie Fame. Mamas and Papas' California Dreamin, the verse after the intrumental break.Flat as buggery.Great record tho. Big Hat. No Cattle. http://www.theshrinks.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Knutson Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 GREAT, lakeside!!! Astrud Gilberto is a PERFECT example of someone who sounds great, but would definitely be Autotuned by today's engineers because she always sang flat. :thu: https://bunny.bandcamp.com/ https://theystolemycrayon.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDM Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Most of the stuff from my [url=http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/7/meat_distributors.html]Meat Distributors[/url] days is... well... not perfect. I did of it myself in the basement into a 414 onto ADAT with no assistance so the results are varied. I don't really care if someone sings in key. I prefer it if the music as feeling. Particularly in electronic music because lets face it this stuff can be a little sterile. :) - DJDM DJDM.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanThomas Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Anything by Lou Reed... On the other hand, it's [i]so[/i] off key, maybe it's not even really meant to be considered singing. Signatures can appear at the bottom of your posts. This option may be disabled by the message board administrators at any time, however. You may use UBB Code in your signature, but not HTML. UBB Code Images are permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Peasley Posted August 29, 2003 Author Share Posted August 29, 2003 I'll toss in Van Morrison as someone with a great voice but hits both flat and sharp at different times. Like a smoky, soulful sax or horn player. M Peasley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halljams Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Tedster: [b]I wish I could sing as out of tune as Don Henley.[/b][/quote]Me too! Check out SUPERVIBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halljams Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 What about Sheryl Crow? She sits pretty close to edge sometimes, but it works somehow. Check out SUPERVIBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside studios Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 And let's not forget Sinatra. Often his intonation was iffy. But always sooo confident and comfortable in his delivery. Also Joe Cocker, bless! Big Hat. No Cattle. http://www.theshrinks.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius Riley Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 Timing, personality and presentation is more important than pitch. James Brown is a perfect example. Perfection does not often equal great art Track or treat? http://www.garbage-house.com/pictures/freaks-images/eck-s-animated.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwine00 Posted August 29, 2003 Share Posted August 29, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by M Peasley: [b]To clarify, I'd make a distinction between vocalists who purposefully sing all over the place just as part of their style - like Dylan and Neil Young and Waits - vs. vocalists who really have some pipes like Henley and Plant and Morrison. M Peasley[/b][/quote]Don henley has pipes???!!! and dylan and tom waits don't? the only pipes don henley has are crack pipes. man...the stuff that passes for taste in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Peasley Posted August 29, 2003 Author Share Posted August 29, 2003 Nahhh - you don't understand what I mean. By "pipes" I mean people who have highly trained and developed voices who sing with volume, clarity, control, plus a big chunk of physical gifting. Their voices resonate fully in their chests and head. The opera singers have the most "pipes" - that's what they're into. Pop and rock singers with pipes are people like McCartney, Stevie Wonder, a whole bunch of female divas in the Whitney Houston legacy, etc. "Pipes" don't equate necessarily to "good", and not having pipes doesn't equate necessarily to "bad". But almost every singer would like to have a bigger voice, ie more pipes. I love to hear Waits and Dylan and Neil Young and Randy Newman and Mark Knopfler and all those guys....I'm not talking about taste - this is a more technical issue of intonation. Some people don't bother with it and somehow pull it off - don't need it. But they are the exception. M Peasley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halljams Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by mattwine00: [b][/quote]Don henley has pipes???!!! and dylan and tom waits don't? the only pipes don henley has are crack pipes. man...the stuff that passes for taste in here.[/b][/QUOTE] ARE YOU JOKING???? Check out SUPERVIBE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techristian Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 This is old but here goes! "I GOT YOU BABE" Sonny Bono Dan http://teachmedrums.com TEACHMEDRUMS.COM My Music Videos RED PILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpel Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Well, Indie rock is full of "character" singers whose pitch is barely adequate enough to state the melodies clearly. Stephen Malkmus and Jeff Tweedy come to mind. Both are pretty cool singers. I think every singer, or some cases entire bands, have a way of defining "in tune" for themselves. It's when everything is locked in and ONE note from the singer is badly out, that's pain. Check out the Sweet Clementines CD at bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschmidt Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Burt Bacharach singing...but its really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassix Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Jeff Buckley Big Bird :) TBH I think that autotune is a damn curse. I just heard the current Dutch top40 Number1 artist "Lumidee" (some bimbo from spanish harlem, new york) sing live. She can't sing one single fucking note straight and I laughed so hard it brought tears to my eyes. Personally I'd advise the bitch to get a carreer as a cleaning lady or as a waitress but somehow some bastard managed to autotune the crap out of her and made her a star. Fuck autotuning. Edit: On the same stage Stacy Orrico (or whatever u spell that like) did sing pitch perfect so it wasn't the monitoring. Stirring shit up since 1968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeton Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Just about anything by Astrud Gilberto is a bit out of tune. But imho, her voice is total *schwing!*. ;) Whoops! Lakeside beat me to it, and i didn't even notice! Dr. Seuss: The Original White Rapper . WWND? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salyphus Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Whether something is 'in tune' or not is subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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