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I am ready to go for the Faital 8HX200 speaker upgrade. Before I pull the trigger: does the 8 ohms resistance match the CX2008?
One mor thought on the upgrade: the Faital has a frequency range of 1,500 to 20,000 Hz. Doesn't that mean that the separate tweeter in the SSV3 becomes redundant? If so, could the tweeter in the SSV3 simply be disconnected?
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This seems to be a really interesting mod. If the improvement of piano tones is substantial I would also go for it. Maybe Aspen could weigh in and share his opinion?
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I tweaked the CV the way I liked but sadly the volume for non CV jumped too much.
Can't wait for the new treats.
Hope everything else remains the same.
Did you install 4.11 final? You are missing a pure nugget if you don't. The update process is dead easy. Just make sure to pick the proper file for your HX3 version:
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If I hit the CV switch and it warbles or is the wrong frequency or the treble boost is not right, or worst of all if it sounds phase shifty, it kills the illusion pretty quickly.
They absolutley nailed the CV in the new OS 4.11
Hit the CV switch and the HX3 sings.... wow!
For those who just installed OS 4.1 - there is an even newer update now: OS 4.11
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The sound quality of this recording is amazing. The Shure MV88 seems to work great.
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Terrific sound and soulful playing! I am also very happy with this exact same amplification rig. Usually I am using the mono acoustic piano preset of my RD64 and everything else in stereo. Best of both worlds. Crystal clear piano sound and full 3D-bloom of everything else.
Thanks again for sharing this great idea. The RCF TT08A / SSV3 combo is straight dope!
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unfortunately....
no way to update my USB expander....
I used the last HX3 flash update software, it recognize the expander, the correct licence numbers, the correct user, the correct FW (3.83), everything is fine.
but when I click on "upade" it find dozens of errors and the process can't be finalized.
now the flash software do not recognize the expander, no licence number, no user, everything is lost.
really tired with the upgrade method (with the first - no usb - HX3 expander was the same, I had to send back to manufacturer in order to fix it). I thought the USB version solved these problems....
I am quite expert with pc upgrade with many other devices, never had a problem in the last 15 years.
but the HX3 is really discouraging.
so I'll have to wait an unknown number of months in order to contact the manufacturer, send the expander and wait for repair....
really disappointed, one of the best sounding organ clone ever, but awful upgrade process....
Marco,
do you have a MK2 board inside? I think so....
The BETA (use on YOUR OWN risk!!!) is MK3/4 board ONLY!!!
As always: be careful with betas !!!!
thanks Mitch
no, it was not the beta, it was the 3.9...
in any case I have the mk3 board.
PS so my board will not support future upgrades?
as the previous boards are not supporting the last one?
so in order to have future sound improvements you have to change all the board?
Just use the remote software instead of flash and go back to 3.925. Worked for me with my HX3 MkII board, You only must make sure to choose your ftdi adapter under 'Device' and then the correct files under 'Firmware' and 'Fpga'. They must match your board version. It's really not overly complicated. And yes, you will be able to upgrade your board in the future too. Don't worry!
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This guy doesn't seem to have a problem with the keybed:
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Hi everybody,
I received yesterday the CPS. I bought it based on the recommandations of this forum, and because I sent my EV-ZXA1 for repair (the tweeter was out of order). I have two gigs in exterior next week and want to test the CPS as a monitor in addition to the PA of my band (jazz quartet).
I play only acoustic pianos (Nord Piano and Pianoteq).
For now I have tested it at home in a quiet room and in a repetition room with my band. Im mitigated yet about the sound, I will wait the gigs to pronounce me.
A thing that bothers me is that when the unit is turned on without any cables plugged in there, a high-frequency sound is very noticeable. I tried other outlet, same result.
I wonder if this is normal or do I have a defective unit ? There is also a low frequency hum which is more acceptable (because it is common with all amps), but the high-frequency sound is rather perturbing.
Another thing is that some high-range notes on the piano produce a high resonance sound on the unit, which is not pleasing. Overall, the sound of the piano was not great (especially in the high range) and there was a lack of presence and clarity with respect to the saxophone. But the placement of the unit was not ideal (small repetition room), so I will wait to use it on stage to evaluate its behaviour and decide if I will keep it or not...
Benoît from France
My SSV3 is quiet like a mouse. No hiss or hum. There seems to be something wrong with your unit or with your current supply.
Make sure that the speakers wear in for a couple of hours before you judge the sound. New speakers need to wear in to open up.
As much as I like the SSV3 - not sure if it's the best bet for acoustic piano only. It can't show off it's magic with non-stereo sound sources.
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- AP's sound horrendous (Yamaha CP300). So boxy/honky at the same Sk1 settings to be almost unusable. Adjusted EQ's on AP and SS side to eventually sound ok at low volumes (cutting mids). Not sure how I would deal with it at a live performance).
New speakers need to wear in for a couple of hours before you can really judge their fidelity. While I agree that AP sounds are a bit of a challenge for the SSV3 (which is true for most PA speakers) it definitely doesn't sound horrendous.
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Tom, I'm looking forward to hearing what you think after trying this with your TT08A.
I used the SSV3 / RCF TT08 combo yesterday night at a bar gig with my bluesrock band. The sound was just glorious. I positioned the two speakers right next to me. Similar to what you suggested I put the TT08 on the backside of the SSV3 but horizontally in monitor wedge position. I have no idea how it works but the sound was pristine. Piano, rhodes and organ, everything sounded clear and unadulterated with plenty of headroom. My keys could be easily heard on stage and everywhere in the room, SSV3 3D effect included of course. Pure enjoyment!
Hey Al, thanks so much for sharing this terrific idea!
Tom
Just to be a pill: you're describing a $3000 rig. It damn well SHOULD sound good!
I like the SS3 because it's small and disproportionately affordable for its quality. If I'm getting into two speakers and the $3000 range, I have lots of options. IMO the value prop of the SS3 is that it is the ONLY one-square-foot, less-than-$800 box that sounds this good.
True, indeed. Luckily I bought my RCF TT08 speakers used for a very good price a couple of years ago. The TT08s used to be my main keyboard monitors in stereo. After I got the SSV3 I shelved both TT08s and solely used the SSV3 ever since. I absolutely preferred the SSV3's simplicity and great 3D sound over the TT08's higher audio fidelity. Only when Al came up with his great stacking idea I took one TT08 out of the shelf and gave it a shot. Result is noted above.
I still prefer one single SSV3 over two active speakers of any quality level. Positioning and handling is so much easier with the SSV3. The RCF TT series are some of the best speakers you can get but it's always difficult to position both of them properly on stage.
The bottom line is that Al Quinn's SSV3 / TT08 stack idea beats a single SSV3 as well as two TT08s. This stack setup is easy to schlepp and it fits everywhere. The additional TT08 is small enough and weighs only 25 lbs. I guess that a cheaper good sounding speaker like a RCF310 or a QSC K8 would also do the trick.
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Tom, I'm looking forward to hearing what you think after trying this with your TT08A.
I used the SSV3 / RCF TT08 combo yesterday night at a bar gig with my bluesrock band. The sound was just glorious. I positioned the two speakers right next to me. Similar to what you suggested I put the TT08 on the backside of the SSV3 but horizontally in monitor wedge position. I have no idea how it works but the sound was pristine. Piano, rhodes and organ, everything sounded clear and unadulterated with plenty of headroom. My keys could be easily heard on stage and everywhere in the room, SSV3 3D effect included of course. Pure enjoyment!
Hey Al, thanks so much for sharing this terrific idea!
Tom
To recap my experience of using SSV3 standalone versus the SSV3 / TT08 combo I would say SSV3 is heaven for most keyboard sounds but leaves somewhat to be desired for shining piano sounds. In comparison Al Quinn's combo idea is cloud nine for all sounds including pianos. This combo sounds very much like the studio monitors in my music room plus the added benefit of the glorious SSV3 3D-effect. The TT08 also adds bass and total volume to the SSV3. I very much prefer this combination over just using two TT08 speakers.
JMTC
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Tom, I'm looking forward to hearing what you think after trying this with your TT08A.
I used the SSV3 / RCF TT08 combo yesterday night at a bar gig with my bluesrock band. The sound was just glorious. I positioned the two speakers right next to me. Similar to what you suggested I put the TT08 on the backside of the SSV3 but horizontally in monitor wedge position. I have no idea how it works but the sound was pristine. Piano, rhodes and organ, everything sounded clear and unadulterated with plenty of headroom. My keys could be easily heard on stage and everywhere in the room, SSV3 3D effect included of course. Pure enjoyment!
Hey Al, thanks so much for sharing this terrific idea!
Tom
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I've been using two different approaches to amplification depending on whether the gig is piano centric or organ centric. For organ the SS V3 is fantastic and for acoustic piano samples a pair of RCF TT08A's on speaker poles sounds great. I got to thinking it would be nice to find a way to combine the high end audio fidelity of the TT08A's and the omnipresent sound of the SS (i.e., without having to bring both TT08As and those nuisance speaker poles). After a bunch of experimentation using some ideas from Aspen I found a setup the sounds great and is gig-friendly. Perhaps others can benefit from this experience. I still need to try it on a gig but feel very optimistic based on what I've heard at home.
What a great idea! Can't wait to try that with my RCF TT08. Thanks Al!
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Actually, fat organ sounds can be easily had with the SK.
Interesting. I never managed to make the SK1 meet my expectations. Maybe it was just me. But I know quite a few players who had exactly the same problem with the SK1/2 as the OP described above. Never mind! These days organ players have more good clonewheel choices than ever before. "So Hedge therefore, Who Join Forever ..."
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Turned out not to be the best sound choice; the band members stated that the SK1 sounded rather 'underpowered', and kind of wimpy - even at a variety of drawbar settings - including 888888888.
It's simply the nature of the beast. I owned a SK1 for a while and it never delivered the sounds I looked for, no matter how deep I dived into the menu and no matter which parameters I tried to adjust. No ill will intended. But fat rock organ sounds aren't the strong points of the SK1/2 in my opinion. Finally I sold it and got a UHL X3 instead. Problem solved.
JMTC
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Any recommendations for a VR09 keyboard bag? Most bags I could find are too big.
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One other comment - if I recall correctly, Tom you also have a Roland RD64? If so, try then together, the VR09 is so light you can set most of it on the back shelf of the RD64 - great dual manual set up. You just need something to prop up the back of the VR09, and you're good to go (check the recent "two tier stands" for some ideas".
Anyway, sorry to be a fanboi, just felt a need to chime in for some reason. Sadly/not Sadly the combo of the RD64 (for piano, clav,, etc) and the VR09 + SpaceStation have kinda dampened my Gear Lust, as I can't seem to find a better lighter/cheaper/better sounding combo. I'm left to drooling over stands....like the cool stuff in the two tier thread.
Roy
Roy - RD64 and VR09 are a killer combo indeed: weighted hammer keybed for pianos plus light keys for synth/organ with a greatly reduced schlepp pain. BTW: against all odds I really like the VR09 keybed, especially for synth leads. It allows for lightning fast soloing.
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The other day I bought a used VR09 since I wanted a lightweight backup keyboard and I couldn't resist a ridiculously cheap offer. During a first trial at home I found the sounds ok, yet not overly exciting. But yesterday night I played it for the first time in a band rehearsal. And this thing sounded just glorious through my CPS Space Station V3! All I ever needed was there: pianos cut trough, shimmering Rhodes sounds with a nice bark, a surprisingly good sounding organ/leslie sim plus lush Roland synth pads and leads in spades. And it's really easy to use. No endless menu diving. I had a lot of fun with this little keyboard! Don't let it fool you when you check it out in a music store. It's strenghts really seem to only jump up in a live setting.
JMTC
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As MG says, be patient. I've always found it worth the wait for Wolfgang. He's the Man!
Here's an announcement of Wolfgang which I just found in my email:
Hello X3 Customers,
We would like to reiterate strongly that only firmware updates approved by Uhl Instruments GmbH may be used for Uhl X3 organs. Our approved firmware updates are available for download only on www.uhl-instruments.com under "Support".
Firmware updates which are downloaded from external pages (for example, HX3 updates from Github Company Keyboard partner), can, even if they contain the name "Uhl", damage the programming of Uhl Instruments X3 motherboards. X3 organs with damaged firmware will no longer work and will need to be sent back and be reprogrammed by Uhl Instruments. These repairs would not be covered under warranty. Transport and repair costs would need to be charged to the customer.
We are working on a new firmware 4.0. It will be published in about 4 to 6 weeks. With firmware 4.0 the X3's will sound even richer and much fatter (we actually thought that this would not be possible!). In addition there will be some more small changes. All customers will be informed by mail as soon as firmware 4.0 will be available.
Thanks to all and continue to enjoy the X3's
Let's rock !!!
Wolfgang Uhl
Owner
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Yesterday I updated my HX3 from 3.92 to 3.922 using the remote software. I thought it's just a minor update because of the slightly different version number. But this update is awesome. Much better bass response now. Kudos to the developper! HX3 is getting better and better. I am a fanboy.
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In response Vanderschoot's post above....
After hearing the Mojo at NAMM I would certainly choose it over the HX3 version that I had last summer.
Supposedly, there has been an improvement in the HX3 chorus vibrato but it is still unclear to me whether it is significant. Several recent video demos have been made mixing the CV with chorale on leslie or chorale on the HX3 leslie sim, which doesn't help the situation at all.
The CV has to be right because to me, it is the first option you have if you have to play in mono. Many stages just do not accommodate stereo speaker separation ( for leslie sim) so CV in mono is often the option that I have to go with.
And the HX3 CV just did not do it for me. There was way too much throb in the 888000000 setting. It's the second drawbar from the left that is usually the culprit. 808000000 sounded fine. 888000000.... no.
I wish that I could use the HX3 because now I have a Hammond XK-2 that would be great to use for a controller. But from what I have heard so far.... online and in person, I would tend to go with the Mojo or anything Key B.
Why don't you just buy what you like best and stop the HX3 moaning? Your posts don't do anything for anybody including yourself. It really gets boring.
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I've been gigging nonstop with rocking' blues bands and while I used a bass amp at first I realized it really wasn't necessary.
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Same here. I sold my Behringer B1200D after I quickly found out that I really didn't need it. The SSV3 delivers more than enough bass for my needs. Sometimes I even need to turn down the bass EQ on my Roland RD64 piano to keep myself off the pitch of the bass player.
Heads-up: SpaceStation keyboard amp is apparently back
in The Keyboard Corner
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Good luck for the transplant! It would be great if you could post a couple of pics.