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2 hours ago, Moonglow said:
Yes, the aforementioned vintage 106 in my closet.
The Juno chorus certainly thickens the 106, but next to my Prophet-5 and OB-8 it sounded comparatively thinner, which I attribute to lacking a second oscillator.
31 minutes ago, Dave Bryce said:In no way am I criticizing anyone else for enjoying one osc per voice synths, brother Tom. I’m just not one of them.
I cut my teeth on my MiniMoog. Took me a while to not expect 3 oscs per voice on other synths!
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we should not compare apples and peaches. an alpha juno is no mini-moog (although i have pretty authentic “moog leads” programmed on mine), it's no prophet or oberheim either. but it has a unique Roland sound that i couldn't reproduce with my prophet 6, my rev2 or my matrix 1000. it's just a totally underrated, fat sounding analog synthesizer. not wimpy at all. and you can still find it for the price of a vst or you can buy 10 of them for the ridiculous price of a juno 106 which the OP had asked for.
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7 minutes ago, J.F.N. said:
Is this an ironic post? 🤔
No.
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21 hours ago, Dave Bryce said:
Yeah, but…that careful chosen outboard could be following a 2 osc per voice JX3P, or JX8P. That’d make me happier, for sure. 🥳
For my ear/taste, the single oscillator per voice synth is a hard pass - any of ‘em, pretty much.
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with all due respect. this one osc prejudice is a misjudgement in this case. for example, the alpha juno is the favorite synthesizer of espen kraft, the 80s YT synth guru. the alpha juno sounds really fat and it has kind of a 2nd osc. I can only recommend anyone who is interested in vintage Roland synths, brass, strings, bass, lead and so on to listen to some YT videos. the misjudgment may be the reason why this synth is still so cheap. and it doesn’t have all the durability problems of other vintage Rolands. I sold my JX8P a while ago but kept the alpha juno 2.
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1 hour ago, CyberGene said:
The middle G key (above middle C) on the Stage D still has a clicky attack on one of the sample layers around mf. I reported it since the very beginning but it’s still not fixed. Other than that it’s an awesome piano, their best so far and by far 👏🏻
Did you find any sound differences in the “official” Stage D samples compared to the previous release?
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Get a Alpha Juno instead and add a cheap Stereoping controller box. The Alpha Junos are still ridiculously cheap and the sound is at least as good as the overpriced 106.
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1 hour ago, Stefan011 said:
Ex Numa X 73 and current CP73 owner here.
I really loved Numa interface and connectivity. No problemms there.
Yamaha is better built but Numa is Lighter and better to carry. Also Yamaha has sloghtli better keybed but Numa is pretty much ok.
NNuma has great price and good form factor. Probllem was I play mostly EPs and despite the good reputation Numa has, the sound just disappeared in the band context. I dont know what was the reason. Lack of harmonic freq? DA converter? Bad EQ? Not compatible with my speakers?
I got CP73 used for a great price and while it is not my preffered instrument (I like Nord and Kurzweil sounds more) it gets the job done. That said I hope Numa can improve with firmware, the concept and form factor is great.
The latest update did not only significantly improve the AP sound but also the EPs. I play the YC61 EPs with the Numa keyboard sometimes. Can’t say which EPs are „better“. But the Numa EPs sound more authentic to my ears, especially with the Numa’s virtual EP engine and it’s sound shaping possibilities.
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50 minutes ago, HammondDave said:
This new keyboard sensitivity scaling is outstanding. It's like playing a whole new instrument!
I was thinking exactly the same thing. it's definitely one of the best digital pianos in its class now. together with a yc61 or a nord stage 3 or an ipad it’s a killer lightweight keyboard setup which offers just everything I‘ll ever need.
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Oh, it’s update time again right after I updated the Numa X yesterday. 😉
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This is babycat sock dancing.
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54 minutes ago, TomKittel said:
I just installed the update on my Numa X 73. Wow, what a step forward! The pianos have a new shine and the keys play like butter. Brilliant! I really dig this keyboard.
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5 hours ago, CyberGene said:
Well, you can make it sounding very warm and vintage and I’ve myself been tempted by a video with killer vintage set of patches by a Polish guy. But the truth is I can make my Hydrasynth sounding very analog too. So, the point here is not whether you can make a synth to be vintage-warm sounding but rather have a synth that is inherently warm such as Prophet 5/6, OB-6, etc. The rev2 is kinda sterile by default, it has DCO-s and many people say you have to work it out to get away from its colder sound signature.
well, you said that the rev2 is a digitally sounding synth and any VA would sound more „analog“ and I don’t agree with such statement. not at all. I have it here next to my Prophet 6 and f.e. it can do very convincing OB sounds which the P6 can’t in the same way and none of the VAs I owned ever could. I would rather call the System 8 digitally sounding for example.
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On 8/21/2024 at 11:04 PM, CyberGene said:
That’s a pretty digitally sounding analog synth. It is not a warm vintage classic that would be worth it for the studio since a VA would (arguably and ironically) sound more “analog”. And in live situation the only advantage over any workstation or digital keyboard/synth would be the “Sequential” brand name visible by the audience (provided they know and care). YMMV
I would definitely not agree with your judgement of the rev2.
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it is quite possible that moog muse will force sequencial to be more modest in pricing again.
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Does the Polybrute Moog? No. Does the Muse? You bet! The Muse wins by a mile here:
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what is the purpose? I don’t get it. the knurled screw keeps the 2nd tier in place already.
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11 hours ago, RandyFF said:
Still wondering what the heck the Duplex does.
Here is an explanation of the Duplex scale:Duplex scale refers to the string sections between the bridge and frame of a grand piano. They generate string resonance and enrich the piano sound with overtones. Duplex scales are sections of the playing sides outside the string area that is struck directly by the hammer. The aim of the duplex scale is to enrich the string vibration with a mixture of high frequencies, which provides more brilliance in the sound.
The Duplex Scale was patented by Steinway & Sons and goes back to the Centennial Concert Grand concert grand piano developed in 1875. This grand piano is considered the direct predecessor of the D-274 model, which was built in 1884.
Modern digital pianos take into account many sound details in addition to the basic sound of the note struck. In dynamic interaction, these simulate the complex sound behavior of the acoustic piano. The Duplex Scale can be found as a parameter in some digital pianos. If you experiment with it, you can easily understand the influence of the Duplex Scale: It gives the piano sound more radiance, while the short decay of staccato notes is enriched with a high-pitched buzz.
The general rule for sound details is: less is more! As a means of shaping the sound, details can be emphasized more than would normally be perceived on the original instrument. You should always be aware that such interventions distort the sound. This applies in particular to the duplex scale, as it becomes noticeable as an intrusive mix of trebles when overemphasized.
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10 hours ago, RandyFF said:
Still wondering what the heck the Duplex does
It is a very subtle decay effect in the upper octaves. only audible with good studio monitors. too much of it results in a metallic sound with artifacts. -
BTW I find that the Compressor FX in the Numa X doesn't do anything. No effect at all, no matter which settings. Is it a bug or a feature? Has anyone else tried the Compressor?
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A rvalued forum member sent me the Piano D file, thank you! I am impressed, indeed the best Numa X piano so far. But you have to adjust the settings a bit to your taste. In my opinion, with the factory settings it sounds a bit tinny like in a can. Pictures of my settings attached if someone wants to check it out.
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5 hours ago, HammondDave said:
There is a new Japan piano sound that is pretty good too!
Have you got a link? I don’t see a new Japan piano on their website?
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10 minutes ago, CyberGene said:
I just got a reply from Gianni that the team is going to check the faulty sample I reported and confirmed that the new sound library was actually posted by mistake and is not yet finalized which is why they haven't announced it and why it may still be unpolished. Apologies, it was probably my mail that brought to their attention that people were downloading and installing the new piano without that being their intent and they brought it down 😕 But I'm sure they will re-upload it soon when it's released officially.
I see there's been universal praise by people who have already installed the library, we're all blown away by the new Steinway D, it's certainly their best piano so far. Kudos to Studiologic!
oops, that could take a while, knowing italy. ferragosto is coming soon…
Roland Juno 106 - still worth buying?
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It’s all about sound, be it 1, 2, 3 or more oscillators, isn’t it? 😉