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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: mcpepe] #2972124
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Typically one is for connection to pc and the other for record to/playback from.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: BluMunk] #2972128
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Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Man! This is such a great price . . . I'm really eager to give this a try (if only we had real retail keyboard shops in my area); I've been hoping to get out and try a P-515 and an ES8 (for home use only), but at ~1/2 the price of the Yamaha, and well under 1/2 the price of the Kawai, I feel like I should wait to try the PX-S3000.

I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts/experience with rear-mounted vs. top mounted speaker systems? I'm looking for something that's going to go up against a wall (practically, a few inches from the wall).

Do rear speakers like this turn "muddy" or just "warm" in that context?

Also, are the existing CS67 Stand and SP33 pedal compatible here (mostly, I'm interested in a stand-mounted pedal option)?



Casio has taken this speaker approach for years with Privia models. It sounds outstanding against a wall - that is the intended use. The speakers are all new in this model, the best we've ever had in a Privia.

The existing CS stand and SP33 pedals are not compatible with the new Privia. The chassis is completely different so it won't fit on a CS67 stand. The CS68 stand is really nice - another upgrade from previous versions.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin] #2972132
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin

Casio has taken this speaker approach for years with Privia models. It sounds outstanding against a wall - that is the intended use. The speakers are all new in this model, the best we've ever had in a Privia.

The existing CS stand and SP33 pedals are not compatible with the new Privia. The chassis is completely different so it won't fit on a CS67 stand. The CS68 stand is really nice - another upgrade from previous versions.



Thanks! So am I right in understanding that at the moment there is no "mounted" pedal option for the S3000?

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: BluMunk] #2972139
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Speaking of pedals, and I think when someone like Mike Martin spends a serious amount of time with us here, it might be the right place to drop this... but I am wondering if sometime in the future some keyboards would come with wireless pedals. It seems like there are wireless options for battery-operation, bluetooth, etc. it would be so cool to not have to plug in ANYTHING.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: mcpepe] #2972141
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Oh I see Mike answered.

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin] #2972144
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
Originally Posted By: BluMunk
Man! This is such a great price . . . I'm really eager to give this a try (if only we had real retail keyboard shops in my area); I've been hoping to get out and try a P-515 and an ES8 (for home use only), but at ~1/2 the price of the Yamaha, and well under 1/2 the price of the Kawai, I feel like I should wait to try the PX-S3000.

I'm curious if anyone has any thoughts/experience with rear-mounted vs. top mounted speaker systems? I'm looking for something that's going to go up against a wall (practically, a few inches from the wall).

Do rear speakers like this turn "muddy" or just "warm" in that context?

Also, are the existing CS67 Stand and SP33 pedal compatible here (mostly, I'm interested in a stand-mounted pedal option)?



Casio has taken this speaker approach for years with Privia models. It sounds outstanding against a wall - that is the intended use. The speakers are all new in this model, the best we've ever had in a Privia.

The existing CS stand and SP33 pedals are not compatible with the new Privia. The chassis is completely different so it won't fit on a CS67 stand. The CS68 stand is really nice - another upgrade from previous versions.



Is the sound output any louder than previous Privia models? If so, how many more decibels are we talking about?


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin] #2972158
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Mike -

I'm concerned about the pivot length of the new action, as shown in a Casio International picture here:


















It had seemed a hopeful trend for pivot lengths to become longer over the last couple of years, so I'm worried that Casio is moving the other way.

Can you describe the new action and how it feels, especially it's weight and sensitivity toward the fallboard?

I'm especially concerned about how this might impact the PX-5S replacement when it comes.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: tfort] #2972165
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It's nice to have a digital instrument for such low prices. Yet the technology doesn't superbly appeal to me, it's not like I can feel some special chip chucking away at the sound, or a special DSP signal path rendering a great sound. Some effects, al right, even the surround example is fun to listen to, and it certainly will teach people some playing pleasure, doubtlessly.

I don't think the way that's taken by most manufacturers is great compared to some of the times when there was great progress in what cheap mass-produced hardware could do. Whether that's al-right is another question, maybe people want simple, overseeable instruments without a super laserharp that blows them away, it's clear in which camp I'd be though...

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Theo Verelst] #2972167
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The action was my biggest concern when I saw the new design. I can tell you without hesitation that there wasn’t a single person that I met with at the NAMM show but didn’t think that this was a significant improvement in every way over previous models.

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin] #2972170
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Without a doubt. Even in that din, I could instantly tell a vast improvement of night and day difference.

The only fault as a pianist, that reads a lot on gigs, I could find - the music rack would have been better being made of a solid panel so you could clip a stand light on it. A lot of guys/women still bring a separate stand though.

Based on what I heard and felt, this is recommended. thu

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Dave Ferris] #2972215
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Can the effects on “Electric Piano” be turned off? It sounds as if Chorus is built in to the “Electric Piano”. Can other characteristics of “Electric “Piano” be edited? Such as how much tine is sounded, hammer softness, overdrive, and so on?

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: mcpepe] #2972256
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Originally Posted By: mcpepe
So what is the extra USB port in the S3000 for?
Connect an external midi controller?

Audio to USB stick.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Fleer] #2972271
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Can anyone provide a comparison between this and the Yamaha P125? I traded in 3 older things I wasn't using last summer for the P125 and am quite pleased (as a portable piano of course) of how the left hand bass sounds through the speakers and eq'd for rock, pop etc.

Now, I would imagine having owned a PX130 and trying the other pX series pianos that the action on the PX-S1000 would be more realistic, but how would it sound for rock music vs. classical and jazz?

My PX130 was decent, but when I was playing rock vs. classical/jazz I preferred the Yamaha.

Needless to say, kudos to Casio for developing something new this NAMM- my PX130 was made very well.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: LarsHarner] #2972274
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For jazz, it would sound very much like this. The PX-S series has much of the same tech as the Grand Hybrid used here.



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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin] #2972307
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Casio Soundcloud PX-S3000 and PX-S1000
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PX-S3000

PX-S1000

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: brooster1] #2972321
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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Joe Muscara] #2972380
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When something piques my interest I usually research the owner’s manual. Has anyone seen manuals for these yet?


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: drawback] #2972381
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Not yet, that I have seen, https://world.casio.com/manual/emi/

The new CDP-S___ are up though. So should not be long.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: brooster1] #2972401
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Originally Posted By: brooster1
Casio Soundcloud PX-S3000 and PX-S1000
Sounds Good!

PX-S1000


I like that one, sounds good !

Really impressed with this !

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Really looking forward to a decent demo of the Wurli. Even if it's not up to par, this is a real contender. And if it's good, this is a no-brainer.

Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Josh Paxton] #2972501
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The Casio PX-S3000 has an Audio Recorder / Playback : Max 99 songs, approximately 25 min/song.
Is one able to export the audio, if so how and and are they in uncompressed (.wav) audio file format?

Is one able too edit and turn OFF the Chorus Effect on the patch called "Electric Piano" , or is the Chorus effect built in to "Electric Piano" samples?

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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+] #2972505
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
The Casio PX-S1000 has an Audio Recorder


Sorry this is incorrect. Only the PX-S3000 has this feature. Can you tell me where you found this so I can get it corrected?


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin] #2972512
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
Originally Posted By: Jazz+
The Casio PX-S1000 has an Audio Recorder


Sorry this is incorrect. Only the PX-S3000 has this feature. Can you tell me where you found this so I can get it corrected?


Mike, looks like Jazz copied the text from the S3000 specs on the Casio site.

The Casio page is correct in that it only says that for the S3000. Perhaps a 3rd party has incorrectly copied details and posted the same for both boards.


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Oops I meant to type PX-S3000, corrected now.

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Nice "Electric Piano" (Fender Rhodes) "blowing" at 14:15. I guess there are multiple EP Fender Rhodes in the S3000 and one in the S1000. Yes?

Question: How do you export an audio recording from the S3000, and what file format would it be in?









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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Jazz+] #2972542
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Originally Posted By: Jazz+
Nice "Electric Piano" (Fender Rhodes) "blowing" at 14:15. I guess there are multiple EP Fender Rhodes in the S3000 and one in the S1000. Yes?

Question: How do you export an audio recording from the S3000, and what file format would it be in?



Like other Privia models, you add a USB stick and it records a .wav file. The electric piano Nick Smith is playing in the video is from the PX-S3000. You won't find that specific preset in the PX-S1000.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-S1000 ($900) and S3000 ($1200) [Re: Mike Martin] #2972565
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Originally Posted By: Mike Martin
Originally Posted By: Jazz+
Nice "Electric Piano" (Fender Rhodes) "blowing" at 14:15. I guess there are multiple EP Fender Rhodes in the S3000 and one in the S1000. Yes?

Question: How do you export an audio recording from the S3000, and what file format would it be in?



Like other Privia models, you add a USB stick and it records a .wav file. The electric piano Nick Smith is playing in the video is from the PX-S3000. You won't find that specific preset in the PX-S1000.


I understand the S3000 has many more sounds than the S1000.
Approximately how many of them are piano and e-piano sounds?

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Originally Posted By: Fleer
I understand the S3000 has many more sounds than the S1000.
Approximately how many of them are piano and e-piano sounds?


There are 42 Tones in the E.Piano category (excluding GM Tones), but this also includes clavs, bells and harpsichords. 24 of them are strictly electric pianos.

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Thanks, Rich, and congrats on those great vids.
Any info on the ROM (samples) size of both keyboards?

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Rich, I saw you mentioned in a video that "all the great sounds that you hear in {the} higher end CTX models" are in the PX-S3000. Can you be more precise about that? i.e.:

* Are all the PX-S3000 sounds (other than acoustic piano) the same as those in the CT-X5000? (including the electric pianos)

* What about the non-acoustic piano sounds in the PX-S1000? Are they the same as the PX-160, or have those also been updated to CTX sounds (or are they something else entirely)?

* Obviously not *all* of the CT-X5000 sounds can be in the PX-S3000, because the former has 800 sounds and the latter has 700 sounds. Do you have any info about what hasn't been brought over? I assume the APs would be a logical set to cut, since the PX ones would presumably be better. Are the other "categories" of sounds that didn't make the cut, or are they scattered sounds from among different categories?


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