Billster Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 Ibanez Artcore AS83 Schecter CSH-1 versus an Epi dot or Epi Sheraton or any other semi-hollow you can recommend in a mid-price range. Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 I am biased toward the Sheraton just because I think they are really sweet looking instruments and, although they are derivative of the Gibson ES models, they are a unique model to Epiphone (unlike the Dot). Having said that, I would play a bunch of them before I settled on one. There is way too much variation in quality from Epi (and Gibson for that matter)to just buy one off the rack without some evaluation time. Also you can't go wrong with John Lee Hooker's favorite guitar. I suspect the Artcore's are probably more consistent in construction based on the Ibanez tradition of QC. I just prefer the vibe of the Sheraton. Mudcat's music on Soundclick "Work hard. Rock hard. Eat hard. Sleep hard. Grow big. Wear glasses if you need 'em."-The Webb Wilder Credo- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 You might also consider an SG Faded Gibson. It's hard to beat at around $600 for a US made Gibson. I play the hell out of mine and really enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBBPaul Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 You might also want to look at the Hamer Echotone. Mine is an excellent guitar. They can usually be had for around $400 or less. Check this one out. Our new and improved website Today's sample tune: Lonesome One Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 I love my Epi Casino. It has single coil P-90's instead of the 'buckers of the other guitars youmentioned, but it's a cool guitar that is very well built, plays sweet and has a great sound. It's really hard to go too far wrong with those Epi semi-hollowbodies. I've also heard good things about the Ibanez Artcores. As far as the Schecter, it seems to have a completely different "vibe" than the other guitars you've mentioned. While I have not played that specific model, I have played other models of theirs and they were good guitars too. What type of stuff do you want to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noneverstuck Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 That Ibanez is on my list. I played one in GC and it felt very nice for that price. Of course, I couldn't HEAR it, owing to the adolescent environment, but based on the reviews I've seen I think it will deliver the warm tone I'm seeking. I've got a friend who refuses to sell me one of his two Epi Sheraton IIs. What's up with that? It'll have to wait, however, since I just got a new Italia Mondial bass and the cookie jar is empty. Deef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolead Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Both are awesome guitars, IMO. But it depends what you're looking for. If you want more of an ES-335 vibe, go with the Ibanez. If you want something more avant-garde, then I suggest going with the Schecter. Personally, I'd go for the Ibanez, as it seems like something more of what I'd be interested in. Shut up and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave da Dude Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 I love the Ibanez AS73 (a thinner semi-hollow body), but quality varies. I consistently like the AS73 better than the AM73 or AM83 / AS83. Among the half a dozen or so AS73's I've tried two or three were "keepers", one outstanding (still have my eye on this one, 15 minutes from work ). I don't know the Schecter, but I've like most I've tried. I agree about the vibe being different than (any of) the Ibanez' though. Also consider Washburn, maybe a little more money ($600). I've tried two and they were both good. AND, try the Agile sold through Rhondo music. I've heard lots of good things about the line in general, but nothing about the semi-hollows. Less money too ($250-$350). Guitar geezer just bought a Les Paul clone and likes it very much. Try a bunch Have fun Buy one Gotta' geetar... got the amp. There must be SOMEthing else I... "need". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMcGuitar Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 FWIW, I'm partial to the Artcores. I was also impressed with the Hamer Echotone. Also, FWIW, I was not particularly impressed with the Epis I tried. Maybe I just played a couple that weren't particularly good, or something, but I had expected a lot better. I don't really know anything about the Schecter. May all your thoughts be random! - Neil www.McFaddenArts.com www.MikesGarageRocks.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillWelcome Home Studios Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 I can second the Washburn suggestion. My neighbor wanted to buy a 335 style axe. He asked me to go with him to pick one out. The Washburn was the best choice that we saw in that lower tier price. Some were close, like the Samick. Others weren't as nice as I expected them to be... like the Epis, wheich were okay but didn''t seem as nice as the Washburn or the Samick. All of that said, if the faded Gibsons are only $600, I'd probably be looking seriously in that direction. I haven't tried them, and if they use that flat finish, I'd probably hate them. But a real Gibson for a budget price is something to think about. Bill "I believe that entertainment can aspire to be art, and can become art, but if you set out to make art you're an idiot." Steve Martin Show business: we're all here because we're not all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 and Captain Godin says (surprise, surprise)....did you consider a Godin LG sp90? its not hollow but it has tone. apparently capt. godin needed to edit this because he can't spell for crap tonight. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoes Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 The Ibanez AS83 is beautiful and for what little more it costs over the Epi I think you'd find the fit and finish is well worth a few extra bucks. The colors that I saw offered with the Epi Dot Studios are nasty! Do you need a New guitar? I still think guitars are like shoes, but louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 I really, really think that you'd be best served to actually try out one of each, as well as the Hamer, and any other similar axes that you run into. Taking people's recommendations, and ordering online, is too much of a crapshoot for something so personal and subjective as a semi-hollow axe! Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 Bill, a bud of mine has a "faded" Les Pauls in TV yellow, and yes, it does use that "flat" paint... and the finish is kind of strange. It's got big pores in it (for lack of a better description) - like the pores of the wood were open and huge, and you can see / feel it through the finish. It's not a BAD guitar, and it sounds pretty good, but I wasn't crazy about the way it felt when played it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billster Posted September 2, 2004 Author Share Posted September 2, 2004 Originally posted by Philip O'Keefe: What type of stuff do you want to do with it?Some of my stuff is in a Scofield vibe, so I'm looking for something in that area. A little bit of crystal clean stuff too, but I'm not going to be Jim Hall any time soon. Borderline Pat Metheny, maybe. Do you need a New guitar? I'm not a slave to it, but I think I would prefer. I intend to play some in person at GC, but if the price is better, I'll mail order (GC hate me); so quality control is a big part of the question. Yeah, the Schecter is a different vibe, but it does look cool. Any thoughts on the versatility? Buy my CD on CD Baby! Bill Hartzell - the website MySpace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funk Jazz Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 i'd second the notion for a Hamer Echotone. check your PM's bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoes Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 Doin my normal night prowl for deals and found this. Might be a good answer to your question. I like it. Ibanez AF85 Artcore Elec Guitar-Violin Sunburst-LOOK I still think guitars are like shoes, but louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted September 5, 2004 Share Posted September 5, 2004 yeah, thats nice http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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