WestHarp Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 A guy from the German "Keyboards"-Forum made some recordings of the Nord Stage piano sounds and put them online. He used the Purgatory Creek Piano Shootout MIDI. Here are the links: http://www.marsy-music.de/music/Yamaha%20C7.mp3 http://www.marsy-music.de/music/Steinway.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 He sent them to me but they were in some strange format that I couldn't open. The links you posted do not play all the way through, at least on my computer. Hopefully he will resend them to me. They do sound very good, from what I've heard so far. Busch. http://www.purgatorycreek.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Thanks! The Yamaha sounds fuller compared with the Steinway, which seems a bit thinner and metallic. Korg PA3X Pro 76 and Kronos 61, Roland G-70, Integra 7 and BK7-m, Casio PX-5S, Fender Stratocaster with Fralin pickups, Fender Stratocaster with Kinman pickups, 1965 Gibson SG Standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Sounds good. Perhaps these new pianos do trump the Roland RD-700SX and the Yamaha S90ES piano sounds? For live playing it will depend a lot on the quality of the speakers and the style of music played. These new Nord pianos sound dark to me and with room ambience (recorded at a slight distance). I suspect that when played live these Nord pianos will need very good speakers to help maintain their clarity, otherwise they may sound muddy and cluttered. You can compare the Nord Stage pianos demos with other digital pianos that play the same midi file at Busch's Piano Shootout: http://www.purgatorycreek.com Find 500 of Harry's jazz piano arrangements of standards, for educational purposes and tutorials, at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry Likas was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and also helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 It would be great if someone would send me an MP3 from the S90ES. I'll add the RD700SX and the SRX11 board in the Fantom XR (which I own). And hopefully I'll get working copy of the Nord Stage soon. How about the OASYS? I know a few people have them. Send them via the site and I'll get them posted ASAP. Thanks. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHarp Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 @Busch: I've got no problems with the MP3s - they run perfectly 'til the end of the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Man - there's a lot of sustain pedal in that MIDI file. You'd think for a shootout they'd prepare something with a little more variety in the dynamics and pedaling. Still, the Stage sounds good - can't wait to get mine. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicaL Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Nope they don't play to the end of the file for me... aL Gear: Yamaha MODX8, Mojo 61, NS2 73, C. Bechstein baby grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I have confirmed that the piano samples are licensed from sampletekk makers of the white grand, dark grand, rain piano, vertikal upright etc..They are obviously much smaller versions to fit in RAM but they do sound good. I was impressed with the stereo piano sound running mono thru a kt 80. If they are too dark the on board eq of the stage works really well (much better than the electro). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicaL Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I too was impressed with the onboard EQ. Very "musical" and "organic". Do you know if the Stage piano samples are downsized versions of any of the sampletekk pianos? aL Gear: Yamaha MODX8, Mojo 61, NS2 73, C. Bechstein baby grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Originally posted by kevank: Man - there's a lot of sustain pedal in that MIDI file. You'd think for a shootout they'd prepare something with a little more variety in the dynamics and pedaling. Still, the Stage sounds good - can't wait to get mine. You're right. If I had it to do over I would have done that and more. I created it at a time when the Giga pianos were first coming out and for the first time we had pedal down samples. Also, a continuing area of weakness in hardware based pianos is the fact that they loop the note after a second or two, in which case you either hear the loop or they apply a rapid decay envelope to mask it. So the sustain passages are there for that reason. The begining has a scale run with pedal down. If you hear it without notes cutting out, you shouldn't have any polyphony problems. I mainly wanted people to be able to listen a standard MP3 and determine for themselves if it sounds convincing, i.e. does it sound like a recording of someone playing a real piano. The "composition" is really just an improvisation. It's one of those things that was done a long time ago and it is what it is. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Originally posted by c4: I have confirmed that the piano samples are licensed from sampletekk makers of the white grand, dark grand, rain piano, vertikal upright etc..They are obviously much smaller versions to fit in RAM but they do sound good. I was impressed with the stereo piano sound running mono thru a kt 80. If they are too dark the on board eq of the stage works really well (much better than the electro). This is very good news. I suggested early on that they hook up with Post or someone similar. Per (SampleTek) has created some of the best of the "Giga" piano libraries available. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Originally posted by burningbusch: [You're right. If I had it to do over I would have done that and more. I created it at a time when the Giga pianos were first coming out and for the first time we had pedal down samples. Also, a continuing area of weakness in hardware based pianos is the fact that they loop the note after a second or two, in which case you either hear the loop or they apply a rapid decay envelope to mask it. So the sustain passages are there for that reason. The begining has a scale run with pedal down. If you hear it without notes cutting out, you shouldn't have any polyphony problems. I mainly wanted people to be able to listen a standard MP3 and determine for themselves if it sounds convincing, i.e. does it sound like a recording of someone playing a real piano. The "composition" is really just an improvisation. It's one of those things that was done a long time ago and it is what it is. Busch. Thanks for the explanation - makes sense. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz+ Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Here is a link to the Sample Tekk piano demos: http://www.sampletekk.com/index.php Find 500 of Harry's jazz piano arrangements of standards, for educational purposes and tutorials, at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry Likas was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and also helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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