Jdub2k1 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I need quick "midi for dummies" help guys.... I have: 2 m-audio keystations both with 1 midi out 1 m-audio midisport 2x2 1 voce v5 I need to know how to hook up the v5, midisport, and 2 keyboards to get both keyboards to play. I need to know exactly which midi outs hooks up to which midi ins asap. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prague Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 The 2x2 has to be able to Merge the MIDI data from the two keyboards. Make sure it will do that, first. I don't think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Voce V5 Info It seems to me that you would take the MIDI output of the first keyboard & assign it to MIDI channel 1. The second keyboard's MIDI out should be assigned to channel 2. Connect them to the m-audio midisport 2x2 MIDI merge box. Midisport 2X2 Take a MIDI cable out of one of the MIDI outputs on the Midisport 2X2 and connect it to the Voce V5. The Voce should recognize the 2 channels. It is multitimbral and will recognize 3 channels: upper manual, lower manual, and pedals. If you want more specifics, read the Voce manual. Tom "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 MIDISport 2X2 User\'s Guide It will merge. Yes, no doubt about it. I, on the other hand, could use a beer. "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdub2k1 Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Well obviously I am either doing something wrong or I have some malfunctioning equipment because I am only getting sound from 1 keyboard, and I am on the verge of throwing all of this in the garbage. I have read through the manuals of the V5, Midisport 2x2, and keystations, and still nothing. I appreciate the help anyway guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prague Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I don't see how the MIDISport will merge. The manual you link to is for the MIDIMerge. M-audio has no MIDISPort manual for download that I could find. With two keyboards you will want to have each keyboard transmitting on separate MIDI channels. This will allow each keyboard to have it's own sound. Then, these two MIDI outputs from the keyboards need to be Merged into one MIDI output. This merged output will then go to the Voce MIDI input. To complete this, however, the Voce will need to be in Mutli-timbrel Mode. It will have one sound as one "layer" and another fro the 2nd "layer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Originally posted by Prague: I don't see how the MIDISport will merge. The manual you link to is for the MIDIMerge. M-audio has no MIDISPort manual for download that I could find. Dammit, you're right Cap'n Prague! This is simply a USB interface. Well bust my britches and slap me upside da head with a momma salmon. Getcha a MERGE box Jdub2k1 and all your problems will be solved. Just kidding... that little thing you got going on wit your girlfriend is gonna take a bit more time to sort out. If you'd like, you can give her MY number. "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prague Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I would assume the Voce does have a "Multi" Mode. I don't have any experience on those. Jdub, you need a Merger first, but make absolutely sure the Voce has a Multi mode. If the manual is online, give us a link to it if you are unsure of this capability. Just don't throw anything away yet! This setup you want can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMcM Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Unless what you have is actually a MIDIMerge and NOT the MIDISport USB to MIDI computer interface, you can't do what you want to do. Since the Keystations ONLY have a single MIDI Output and no MIDI input (excluding the USB I/O which also serves to transmit and receive MIDI data) you do need a MIDI merge box. Most any music store that sells software will probably have one and it won't be very expensive. You do know that the V5 can actually receive on 3 MIDI channels simultaneously so you can have upper and lower manuals plus pedals? So go get another Keystation and a second merge box, ask Tom (GAS) to send you a case of cold brew, and have at it. Dave Wm. David McMahan I Play, Therefore I Am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdub2k1 Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 That has to be the answer...This is the set up as of now: Keystation 1 is set to channel 1 with the midi out connected to the midisport midi in A Keystation 2 is set to channel 2 with the midi out connected to the midisport midi in B Voce is in multi-timberal mode with midi in connnected to the midisport midi out A. I am recieving sound from the Keystation 1. If I connect the Voce midi in to the midisport midi out B, I recieve sound from the Keystation 2, but never 1 and 2 at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITGITC Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 No worries. You got it. Get a cheap MIDI merge box, read the VOCE manual to figure out how to set up the two channels independently, and go gig. Doooood, no throwing good stuff out the window. Sit down, open a brewski & chill. Come back later with a fresh start. This is how the game is played. Life is good. We're here with nothing better to do than to fight over who can answer your question first. Now... How's yer girlfriend? "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and that which cannot remain silent." - Victor Hugo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DafDuc Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Does a keystation have a midi in and a combined midi out/thru? If so, you should be able to merge the keystations' data and skip the MidiSport. Used to do that with my KX-88 alla time. I played in an 8 piece horn band. We would often get bored. So...three words: "Tower of Polka." - Calumet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Not necessarily, Daf.. Many boards do NOT provide midimerge functionality. (For example--Yamaha Motif ES, and Ensoniq TS-10..) I know--I have researched it.. Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdub2k1 Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Nope..it just has a midi out, so I guess I need a merge box. I will just have to get a refund on the midisport and find a merge box somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdub2k1 Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Another question... I do have a cheap 1x3 midi merge box (1 midi in, 3 midi outs) that I don't use. Is there a way to "rig" something up with the midisport, or am I just better off buying a midi merge 2x2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prague Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Your 1x3 doesn't sound like a merger. It's seems to be a splitter. Just trade back the MIDISport for the Merger. They must be very similar in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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