sign Posted August 5, 2001 Share Posted August 5, 2001 Hi all I have searched this forum for the Nanopiano and I found out there are quite some guys that don't like it. This can be a reason for me to buy it and so I did and I must say it's not bad at all, in fact there are some nice piano sounds in this little box. I did record many piano's and I have a Zimmermann Grand myself, so I have something to compare. I recorded with Yamaha (digital) piano's, Kurzweil, Korg, Ensoniq, Roland and a couple more. I also found out that many digital piano's have some tones not in tune, the Yamaha, the Roland and even the Nano has a couple of tones not in tune, so they sampled false tones. Only the Ensoniq TS12 was quite good but I whish the piano sound of it was better. Any opinions? Peace. The alchemy of the masters moving molecules of air, we capture by moving particles of iron, so that the poetry of the ancients will echo into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sign Posted August 6, 2001 Author Share Posted August 6, 2001 Nobody? Let me put it this way, play a D chord on a Yamaha P50 module. Does it sound good? I'm curious. Listen carefully to the P80, these Japanese guys have funny ears http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Peace. The alchemy of the masters moving molecules of air, we capture by moving particles of iron, so that the poetry of the ancients will echo into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod S Posted August 6, 2001 Share Posted August 6, 2001 Let me just say this. I know the s80 has a some problems on some of the piano patches. This is not unheard of, unfortunately http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/frown.gif Also, a lot of time manufacturer's will offer two types of tuning on the piano sounds, beat tuning and ensemble tuning. A really piano is actually flat on the bass notes and sharp on the treble notes. This is *may* be what you're seeing. In the qs forum a lot of people complained about the qs7 and qs8 being out of tune on some notes. I can't comment on that, but I remember this coming up a few times. I have a qs6 and I don't use the pianos from that (it doesn't have the bosendorfer sample that the qs7/8/r/nanopiano has) This message has been edited by Rod CA on 08-06-2001 at 01:08 AM Korg Kronos X73 / ARP Odyssey / Motif ES Rack / Roland D-05 / JP-08 / SE-05 / Jupiter Xm / Novation Mininova / NL2X / Waldorf Pulse II MBP-LOGIC American Deluxe P-Bass, Yamaha RBX760 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted August 6, 2001 Share Posted August 6, 2001 Originally posted by sign: I have searched this forum for the Nanopiano and I found out there are quite some guys that don't like it. I like it... I use the Alesis Bosendorfer sample quite a bit. Try program #4 - it's the one that I like the best. Of course, I am the one who suggested that Alesis make the nP, so I may be a bit biased... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steinwaym Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 I really like the piano sounds on the Kurzweil Micro Piano. I am sorry, but my personal opinion is that the best effective use of the Nano Piano in a live situation is to prop a corner of a keyboard stand up to keep it level on an uneven stage. I do think though that the Nano products are good in sequencing situations, just not in live performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 Originally posted by steinwaym: I am sorry, but my personal opinion is that the best effective use of the Nano Piano in a live situation is to prop a corner of a keyboard stand up to keep it level on an uneven stage. Funny - I feel the same way about the Micropiano. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 I think the Nano is great in concept but flawed in execution. Its main offering, the grand piano, just doesn't sound real good. Even in stereo the phasing problems just blast right through... I find myself using the Nano only as a resonance. I use the piano of the MK80 as the primary sound, and have the Nano at a much lower volume. If the MK80 had more polyphony I'd probably drop the Nano entirely out of my piano sound. I don't regret spending a hundred bucks on the Nanopiano; it does have some cool features which I use. I wish I could say the grand piano was one of those features. Originally posted by Dave Bryce: Funny - I feel the same way about the Micropiano. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gif dB I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sign Posted August 10, 2001 Author Share Posted August 10, 2001 Hi guys Thank you for your input, well actually we recorded a song with the Nanopiano, but we also did an 'overdub' with the Zimmermann grand and it worked great. It makes me realize that in fact all those digital piano's absolutely can't compete the real thing. I's like comparing a Fiat Panda to a Bentley. The Yamaha/Kurzweil/Roland/Korg/ etc. etc, etc, guys have a long way to go I suppose. Peace. The alchemy of the masters moving molecules of air, we capture by moving particles of iron, so that the poetry of the ancients will echo into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 You do realize that the only reason Dave Bryce came up with the NanoPiano is because of the wonderfully alliterative name. In other words, it rhymes. Nano...Piano. I don't think he actually thought Alesis was going to make the thing at the time, but I'll bet he was happy they did. It sounds fine, IMHO, and gets the job done. And, FWIW, he really does dislike the Micropiano. He's told me so, oh, once or twice. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted August 10, 2001 Share Posted August 10, 2001 You do realize that the only reason Dave Bryce came up with the NanoPiano is because of the wonderfully alliterative name. Very true. It started out as a joke. We were sitting in a rep meeting, introducing the NanoCompressor (the NanoVerb was already out). They were 1/3 rack space units, and there were only two of them. I was bored...so I turned to an engineer, and said "We need a third one to fill up a rack tray...y'know, if you guys can figure a way to shoehorn the Bosendorfer sample into one of these boxes, we could call it the NanoPiano". I don't think he actually thought Alesis was going to make the thing at the time, but I'll bet he was happy they did. Also true. And, FWIW, he really does dislike the Micropiano. He's told me so, oh, once or twice. Sorry...as you guys know, I'm normally a pretty big Kurzweil fan. The Micro just never did it for me - I had one, and I don't think that I used twice. I liked the Alesis piano much better - stereo vs. mono, 48kHz sampling rate vs. 32kHz, more than 6 MB vs. less than 1.5 MB. All that aside, I just prefer the sound of the Alesis Bosie sample. It works for me. Kurzweil's stereo 4 MB sample of that same Steinway (the one on the K2500/K2600 daughter board, and in the PC2 I believe) is much nicer, IMO. YMMV. dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sign Posted August 13, 2001 Author Share Posted August 13, 2001 Well Dave, it started out as a joke? Well I,m still laughing http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Yesterday we recorded two songs with a symphonic metal band. The band has two keyboard players and they brought a Yamaha SY77, a CS1X and in the studio is a TS12, a Yamaha AN1X, two Hammonds, a Rhodes and a Grand Piano and of course the Nanopiano. So they could make the choice out of many sounds. Well they made their choice and they used the Nano for the most sounds, even for bass. Guess the 'joke' wasn't so bad http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gifhttp://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Peace. The alchemy of the masters moving molecules of air, we capture by moving particles of iron, so that the poetry of the ancients will echo into the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 Originally posted by sign: Well they made their choice and they used the Nano for the most sounds, even for bass. ...and, I hear it works well for propping keyboard stands up as well... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gifhttp://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/wink.gifhttp://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Everyone has different ears...no one is wrong for liking what they like... dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojosaur Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 The Roland 150 has a function that will emulate the tuning of the flat bass notes that Rod speaks of.....its a nice feature but there are not presets to save it. You have to use the function button and select to get any of the special features.....kind on cheap on Roland's part if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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