Stephen Fortner Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 My actual "full-on" concert rig today is the stuff of my fantasies of 10 years ago. The budget, and the extra hands, have to be there for me to bring in all this stuff, but when I do, it is wonderful to have all the options and authentic sounds at my fingertips. Front: Maxed-out Kurz K2000 above Yamaha S-80. Left: Roland VK-7, feeding Leslie 142 via Trek II pedal, atop a Rhodes Stage 73 which goes through an MXR Phase 90 then a TC Electronic chorus pedal.Right: Roland JD-800 above Hohner Clavinet D6 thru Moogerfooger filter. Setup: The Leslie is mic'ed with Audix D3's, two on top and one on bottom. These, along with the stereo Rhodes channels and the mono Clav, feed the mic-pre inputs of a Mackie 1402 VLZ Pro mixer. The synths feed the stereo line inputs. The main outs send a stereo mix to the front-of-house PA, and I monitor through the control-room outs, which drive a pair of Mackie SRM-450 speakers. How would I idealize this? Replace the VK-7 with a Keyboard Specialties "Stealth" B3 chop, and instead of the S-80 ? K2000 pair, have a K2500AES sitting below a Waldorf Wave. Perhaps an Andromeda instead of the JD-800. No vintage analog gear... played on it plenty when it was current, and it was a PITA then too. Every time in the past 5 years I've brought in something like a Prophet or Minimoog because I was nostalgic for "that" sound, I wound up regretting it in the context of a live gig. Stephen Fortner Principal, Fortner Media Former Editor in Chief, Keyboard Magazine Digital Piano Consultant, Piano Buyer Magazine Industry affiliations: Antares, Arturia, Giles Communications, MS Media, Polyverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyb Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 Originally posted by Dave Bryce: You'd want all of that onstage with you? Remember, this thread is about live rigs, not synth collections... dB ok, just the B3 with Andy on top, facing audience, and a Steinway D, with a Jupiter-8 (different filters than the A6) on top facing in towards center stage, and a GX1 facing away from center stage (my back to the band). A U configuration, open to the back. Oh, and a K2600RS and E4 MIDIed to the Andromeda in case I need to use any samples. steadyb This message has been edited by steadyb on 07-11-2001 at 03:25 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g05 Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 Originally posted by Dave Bryce: You'd want all of that onstage with you? Remember, this thread is about live rigs, not synth collections... dB whoops! i guess i got too excited with the thought of an ideal setup. i forgot about being on stage with all of that stuff. yeah it's TOO much. although it would be interesting to see what it would look like all setup on stage. g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHICK KOREA Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 TESTING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHICK KOREA Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 HEY 4 LIVE RIG I BEEN DROOLING OVER THIS IDEA FIRST YOULL NEED I GOOD CONTROLLER WELL KEYBOARD DELLKAWAI MP900 OR THE NEW ONE WITH LAPTOP RUNING GIGASAMPLER 2 GIGA PIANO... AND THE GIGA LIBRARY STUFF UHHH AND THE ESTUDIO ELECTRONICS OMEGA 8 WITH ALL 4 FILTER ARP2600 AND 303 ETC(( HEY IT HAS MORE FILTERS THAN ANDROMEDA)) THE ROLAND VP9000 4 CRAZY STUFF I G4 500 MHZ 4 THE ENDELES PROGRAMSWITH TC ACCELERATOR (( SOO YOU CAN RUN MANY PROGRAMS))OO AND THE OASYS CARD ... I 3D SIMMULATOR HEY I MEAN THE EXPENSIVE ONES THE ONES THAT MAKE PEOPLE SAY UHHHH...!!! THEN KURSWEILL 2600 HEY YOU CAN MAKE ANYSOUND ON THAT WITH THE V.A.S.T I MM SORRY BUT THE YANAHA MOTIF 8 .. HEY THE EP AND THE BREATH CONTROLLER STUFF IS COOL AND 4 OLD TIMES THE DX7 CARD .. WITH THE VL I VAST LIBRARY OF SAMPLES OF VINTAGE GEAR LESLEY AND STUFF THINGS MMMMM UHHH MEN I GO LIKE HOMMER SIMPSON THINKING OF THAT ... I EVEN MADE THE PRICE TAG 70,000 DOLLARS mmm im short about .....mmm 69,995 dollares short ..mmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwisniewski Posted July 13, 2001 Share Posted July 13, 2001 Uhh Chick, could you turn your amp down a little? Or do you play as loud as you type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senator Posted July 14, 2001 Share Posted July 14, 2001 Gotta be careful here, only got 2 hands and we can all write model numbers.SO, I've decided i'd be happy with the Live Electronic Orchestra (LEO) designed and assembled by Don Lewis. It's reviewed by Mark Vail in the Vintage Gear section, have a look. ------------------Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zynth Posted July 14, 2001 Share Posted July 14, 2001 Here's mine: Oberheim Xpander or Matrix-12 (does it really matter? I'd be happy with one, or the other, or both!!!)Access Virus kbKurzweil K2000Korg ProphecyYamaha CP-80Roland Juno-106Yamaha AN1xAkai S5000Yamaha O1VG4 Powerbook TitainiumStienway Grand (any one will do!)Korg M1 (I have a soft-spot for this one, it was my first http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif OK, I'll wake up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchman Posted July 27, 2001 Share Posted July 27, 2001 My concept of a "fantasy rig" hasn't changed much since i started in the 70's. But for the most part i'd forgo the nostalgia of the vintage equipment (i really don't want to have to deal with broken tape loops on a Mellotron). So i'd update to modern equipment, with the exception of the first piece on my list: On my right:Hammond C3 organ with Leslie. Only the real thing will do here.Atop that, a Nord Lead III. That for the lead analog synth. In front:Roland XV88 with 60's-70's module, run through its own Leslie. That takes care of the Mellotron stuff (with weighted keyboard).Atop that, a Kurzweil K2600. Just for the ribbon controller. On my left:Kawai MP9000 for pianoAtop that, a theremin. Thanks for letting me fantasize,- Jim PS. I guess it'd be too much to ask for a Hammond L102 to rise up through a trap door in the stage. The sounds that thing would make when you slung it around and let the reverb spring crash were unreal. OK, i'm getting nostalgic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowly Posted July 28, 2001 Share Posted July 28, 2001 My needs are simple Dave. Give me a souped up Pearl White B3 with twelve tweaked Leslies, and a Alesis SR-12 drum machine pumped thru a pair of those big self-amped Mackies. "Let It Be!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted July 28, 2001 Share Posted July 28, 2001 You people certainly have much higher aspirations than I do musically. I guess you probably play a much more varied style than I do also thus the need for so much equipment. I'd take: A Grand (Yamaha, or Baldwin) with a Karma on the top of it running through a great sound system. Ok, I'm sure I could add a (fully loaded) K2600 in there somewhere but who couldn't. I'd be all smiles. Fletch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Disciple Posted July 29, 2001 Share Posted July 29, 2001 This is easy as I have not played live in tooo long a time...any rig is fantasy for me. Mine would be simple as I do mostly blues with a little standard rock thrown in. It would be: B-3 with 122 LeslieEnsoniq Electric Grand (or the updated version--great piano, electric piano, and clavinet sounds)A synth that is easy operate with great horn and string section sounds (any suggeestions here?) If I had more room, I'd ditch the Ensonique and replace it with: A Rhodes 88A Wurlitzer electric pianoA Steinway grandA Clavinet Just my two cents BD "With the help of God and true friends I've come to realize, I still have two strong legs and even wings to fly" Gregg Allman from "Ain't Wastin Time No More" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis122761 Posted July 29, 2001 Share Posted July 29, 2001 I currently have: Yamaha S80Korg TritonRoland JV-90, w/vintage synth exp. cardHammond XK-2Korg MS2000Korg O1W-FDAlesis QSR, w/ vintage exp. synth cardKorg M1RKorg M3ROberheim Matrix-1000Roland D-50Roland Juno-106Roland JX-8P, w PG-800 programmerYamaha DX-21Roland Juno Alpha-1Korg DW-8000Moog MultiMoogMoog SatteliteArp Odyssey(?) I-cream colored What would I like to have?: Kurzweil K2600XMoog MemoryMoog/plusArp 2600Korg MS-20 Actually, I am having a hard time managing this rig, with all of the bags, stands, etc...Sometimes too much of a good thing is exactly that! Had to store most of the rig in the spare bedroom of my apartment(all 400 sq. ft), and I only road the newest of the 'boards now Dennis This message has been edited by dennis122761 on 07-28-2001 at 08:46 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
progfusion74 Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 I hope resurrecting this thread is as interesting for others as for me. I am very curious to see how everyone's dream rig has changed in 2+ years? That's when I was starting. http://www.indiegrooves.com/dnm/images/dnm_small.gif My Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbobus Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Hell yeah...Steinway D concert grandHammond B3 w/Leslie (dunno the numbers, but a big one)Rhodes 73 Mark I stage w?Fender twin reverbClavinet D6Motif ES 7Roland XV5080 (dunno the number either, but a rack module with great strings)Waldorf (again numbers? the yellow rack module)Or trade the rack modules for a PowerBook 17" w/Logic platinum, Ableton live, Reason 2.5 and some more softsyngh stuff. And at least four roadies and somebody who'll teach me the numbers to the models. http://www.bobwijnen.nl Hipness is not a state of mind, it's a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthguy Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 I'm not much of a performer either, but this is what I would have if I had my way with a recording contract: Kurzweil K2600 loaded with pedals and breath controllerKorg Karma with MOSS board, Vintage Archives and whatever else I feel like, and pedalsRoland XV-5080 module with Grand Piano board, Orchestral compilation, Ultimate Keys board and some odds and endsRoland JD-990 module with Vintage Synth boardRoland VK-8 Hey, I have an admitted Roland biasYamaha FS1R rackNord Modular G2Alesis AndromedaAllen & Heath recording console into Bryston amps feeding EAW speakers This keyboard solo has obviously been tampered with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 So this thread has returned, eh? Since my post in it two and a half years ago, my rig has changed a little. Gone is the WK1500, replaced by a QS71. Props to the Casio, without which I wouldn't have found out that not only do I enjoy playing keys but I can actually do it well enough to play the music I want. The Nanopiano of course became redundant with the procurement of the QS71, so it's gone too. Added is the ExpMate with its ribbon controller, as well as the Behringeer foot controller. The Fender Princeton Reverb II has proven to be a GREAT amp. No need for replacement. I've learned to program the synths I own and become a better player, so much of the stuff previously listed would no longer be neccessary. They're still in my fantasy rig perhaps, but..... I'm in my fantasy band playing my fantasy music on a rig that does just about everything I could want and does it well. So now my fantasy is simply to become a better, more versatile player - so I may maximize the great rig I already have. It's been an interesting, wonderful journey so far I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yannis D Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Corg CX-3 - absolute amazing hammond soundsNord Electro 61 - hammond, rhodes and wurlieNord Lead 2 - my beloved VA syntha small melodica - fro Dub reasonsMackie mixer - never trust the sound person!Quadraverb effects board - the same reasonAkai 3000 sampler - whenever i need it)Shure 57 mic. with a lot of delay y y y y yyyyyThat's my ideal rig. Not the best in the world, but the olny one a can handle with minimum help from my band mates plus i can hand during the performance.Sometimes it's better to be realistic and have the rig you're rehearsing with on stage, than be a dreamer and cut down your sound needs when it's time to play live.RegardsYannis Be grateful for what you've got - a Nord, a laptop and two hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Small Rig:Motif ES-88Roland FantomNord Modular Rack connected to the Fantom. Large Rig:Piano - SteinwayOrgan - Hammond B3EP - Rhodes 76Pads - Matrix 12, Memory Moog, Nord Modular, Roland V-SynthLead - Rhodes Chroma, Moog Voyager, Access VirusGeneral use - Roland Fantom2 Rhodies and 1 very good tech. Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Horne Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 I would just be happy with an 88 key midi controller that had the Yamaha piano sample from their GranTouch series. Everything else I already have and am quite content with. No guitarists were harmed during the making of this message. In general, harmonic complexity is inversely proportional to the ratio between chording and non-chording instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Currently, I play a K2500XS (maxed), a Yamaha P80 and a XK 2. The Kurz and the Yamaha go to a Mackie 1202 and then to a single EON15 G2. The XK goes straight into a MS Pro-145. I would love to upgrade the XK to an actual B3, add a Rhodes, a Honer D6, a Leslie 147 and a pair of EON's....aside from that, I'm pretty happy with my current gear. Gets me where I need to go! B~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botch. Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 My rig hasn't changed in two years: Kurz PC-88MX, Yamaha EX-5, Nord Lead 1. If I had the $$ and more confidence in the future of live music here where I live, I'd like to have: still the PC-88MX, Kurz 2661 loaded with sampling features, the Nord Lead 3, and a Nord Electro with physical drawbars (they don't make one yet). Botch "Eccentric language often is symptomatic of peculiar thinking" - George Will www.puddlestone.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Hmmm.......fantasy rig eh? I'll take everything! Two of each now that you mention it For now I'll settle for my K2500XS and Roland JV-1000 Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBowsa Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 with roadies and unlimited funds:B3 + Leslie, Moog (or maybe Andromeda) on topRhodes 73, D6 on topCrybaby + Line6 POD without roadies and limited funds:Voce V5 + Roland A-33 + KBR-3D, Ion on topP120 or S90 I'd also take a VK-8 in place of the Voce setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortenJ Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 ARP 2600Alesis AndromedaAlesis IONElka SynthexOberheim ObxaMemoryMoogMOOG 55Moog TaurusRoland System 700Korg PS 3300Roland Jupiter 8Yamaha Motif ES 6Yamaha CS 80Roland JD 990Fairlight CMI III Simmons SDX and SDS 5 Morten Access Virus TI keyboard,Alesis ION,Yamaha Motif ES 6,Roland Fantom XR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 As long as we are fantasizing, I may as well get ridiculous: 1959 Hammond B-3 w/ 2 122 and 2 147 Leslies Yamaha GX-1 Rhodes Chroma and Chroma Expander (already have this!) Oberheim 8 Voice E-MU Audity (the original, not the rompler) The Close Encounters Arp 2500 (in the movie cab!) The Synth of Doom (see url below) Hohner Clavinet D-6 Hohner Pianet N Wurlitzer 200 Steinway Model D Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Irok Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 ...has someone else setting it up, taking it down, and transporting it! http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/happy/grlaugh.gif Check out my band's site at: The Key Components! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Rig 1 (small clubs, somewhat within means of obtaining): Yamaha S90 Korg CX3 through Leslie A dedicated analogue-type synth of some sort (it would probably come down to Moog Voyager vs. Andromeda) Rig 2 (ultimate dream rig): Steinway or Bosendorfer grand piano (for jazz, Yamaha for funk/rock) Rhodes 88 w/ Mu-Tron, delay and wah Hammond B3 through Leslie Hohner D6 Clavinet w/ Mu-Tron and wah (on top of Hammond) Whatever synths Jamie Shields (The New Deal) uses -- I believe Moog Source & Roland Juno-106. I'd only need one of them, placed on top of the Rhodes. Basically my dream rig is very heavily based on John Medeski's rig. If it's good enough for him it's good enough for me. David My Site Nord Electro 5D, Novation Launchkey 61, Logic Pro X, Mainstage 3, lots of plugins, fingers, pencil, paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Tee Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Seems like many of the boards are old favorites from the '70's and early '80's. No different for me... I'd take my B3 and hot rodded 147A nice Baldwin GrandMoog VoyagerRhodes SuitcaseTriton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
progfusion74 Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Might as well add mine Kurzweil K2600X Alesis Andromeda Laptop loaded with Kontakt loaded with SonicStation sfz+ for giga import z3ta+ B4 CS80V Atmosphere Reaktor Nothing fancy but I wouldn't mind this rig at all In reality swap out the Andy for a QS7 (which I already have) Wouldn't mind a Motif ES8 in place of the Kurz, but I like the controller features on the Kurz better. In reality, I am hoping that Kurzweil updates the K2600X someday (something like the K2661 but 88-weighted). http://www.indiegrooves.com/dnm/images/dnm_small.gif My Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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