TShakazBlackRoots Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 A friend of mine asked me this question and I couldn't give her a straight answer. She went on to give me other examples associated to the letters 'ist'.... Mainly negative I must agree. Sexist, Racist, Rapist, Maschocist, Elitist and so on. We better find another title for ourselves pretty soon. I suggest 'Bassers' I'm sure there are many positives to be found with the 'ist' e.g Conservationist!! It Began In Afrika. https://www.facebook.com/BlackRootsUNLIMITED/ https://www.facebook.com/TanquerayAllMusicSafari/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 ...guitarist, flutist, violinist, cellist, pianist, socialist, communist, anarchist, populist, phlebotomist, cardiologist, deist, evangelist, specialist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 artist violinist cellist flautist oboist trombonist clarinetist saxophonist trombonist tubist vocalist bassist pianist and then of course we have trumpeters and drummers So who are the oddballs? Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebassman Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 bullshit artist (not painting with cow poo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnoBassMan Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 I like "drumist" better than drummer any way. HypnoBassMan The deeper you go the better you feel! (True for bass and hypnosis.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Bazbo Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Actually, the term "bassist" does not apply to everyone who owns or plays a bass. "Bassist" is a term of honor. There are three levels of bassdom: The lowest life form of bassdom owns a bass and plays at it. Few, if any lessons. Little real musical knowledge or gig experience. Their rendition of "Another One Bites the Dust" is a source of real pride. If they don't have tab, they are pretty much restricted to playing roots and the occasional arpegio. These are the most numerous of bassdom's citizens -- maybe 60% or 70% of all bassdom. They are the "Bass Owners." The next higher life form of bassdom owns a bass and practices musical things with it on a regular basis. He or she has played a regular gig at some point in the last twelve months. He or she has a repertoire of songs they can play, but improvisation beyond a 12-bar pattern is not usually their strong suit. Don't take them outside their preferred genre. These are the next most numerous of bassdom's citizens -- probably 20% to 30% of the total. They are the "Bass Players." The "Bassist" is the highest and rarest of all the citizens of bassdom. They can play. Any time, anywhere, any genre, any instrument, any tuning. They can slap and pop and perform a dozen techniques that sound great, but you've never heard of -- but they don't feel they have to do it to feed their own egos. The bassist isn't out to impress -- he or she is out to make the best music possible using the best technique possible. Why are they called "bassists?" Because they have earned it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Because we are the basest of people? Because are parts supply the basis for the harmony? Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prague Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 I think the missing word is percussionist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Phil Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 what about Dentist? or Baptist? or Twist? Sunkist? ...i'm tired. http://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/blue.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/black.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/fuscia.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/grey.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/orange.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/purple.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/red.JPGhttp://www.briantimpe.com/images/LDL/dots/yellow.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc taz Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Nothing beats a good, melodic booty call! YEAH! 8-D <-- he knows it sevenstring.org profile my flickr page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Because we play bass? Alex Barefaced Ltd - ultra lightweight, high ouput, toneful bass cabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TShakazBlackRoots Posted April 7, 2004 Author Share Posted April 7, 2004 Because we play bass is an obvious answer , that's why I asked. I guess english has a few words since there so many 'ists' out there. I didn't know there was a 'grade system' in the bass kingdom (bassdom). I now know I am a bass player (not a bassist for that matter, far from it), but so is my mentor since I haven't any release of his outside Reggae. No problem then . I'm yet to hear Boosty play Reggae, Soca, Calypso, Rhumba or African basslines. Is he in the bassist or bass player category? It Began In Afrika. https://www.facebook.com/BlackRootsUNLIMITED/ https://www.facebook.com/TanquerayAllMusicSafari/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Lawson Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Originally posted by TShakazBlackRoots: I didn't know there was a 'grade system' in the bass kingdom (bassdom)don't worry, Shaka, there isn't - rating systems like that are a load of bollocks. Call yourself whatever you want, enjoy playing whatever style you want, and don't ever let anyone tell you your musical contribution is less valuable than someone else's because you choose to do one thing, or to play at home, or to do whatever the hell you want with the bass... The idea that someone isn't a 'bassist' because their improv chops don't extend beyond a 12 bar is laughable. Steve (bassist, bass player, bass holder, bass owner, bass abuser, bass fan, musician) www.stevelawson.net StevieLand - go on, you know you want to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butcherNburn Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 How about Bass Guitarist The flaming shall now begin. If you think my playing is bad, you should hear me sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.S.M Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Flash Bazbo Senior Member Member # 28439 posted 04-06-2004 10:00 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, the term "bassist" does not apply to everyone who owns or plays a bass. "Bassist" is a term of honor. There are three levels of bassdom: The lowest life form of bassdom owns a bass and plays at it. Few, if any lessons. Little real musical knowledge or gig experience. Their rendition of "Another One Bites the Dust" is a source of real pride. If they don't have tab, they are pretty much restricted to playing roots and the occasional arpegio. These are the most numerous of bassdom's citizens -- maybe 60% or 70% of all bassdom. They are the "Bass Owners." I call them beginners The next higher life form of bassdom owns a bass and practices musical things with it on a regular basis. He or she has played a regular gig at some point in the last twelve months. He or she has a repertoire of songs they can play, but improvisation beyond a 12-bar pattern is not usually their strong suit. Don't take them outside their preferred genre. These are the next most numerous of bassdom's citizens -- probably 20% to 30% of the total. They are the "Bass Players." I don't think i've met one The "Bassist" is the highest and rarest of all the citizens of bassdom. They can play. Any time, anywhere, any genre, any instrument, any tuning. They can slap and pop and perform a dozen techniques that sound great, but you've never heard of -- but they don't feel they have to do it to feed their own egos. The bassist isn't out to impress -- he or she is out to make the best music possible using the best technique possible. Why are they called "bassists?" Alot of bassist can't do all the above Rock-n-roll junkie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceOfTheWitch Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Originally posted by Flash Bazbo: Actually, the term "bassist" does not apply to everyone who owns or plays a bass. "Bassist" is a term of honor. There are three levels of bassdom: The lowest life form of bassdom owns a bass and plays at it. Few, if any lessons. Little real musical knowledge or gig experience. Their rendition of "Another One Bites the Dust" is a source of real pride. If they don't have tab, they are pretty much restricted to playing roots and the occasional arpegio. These are the most numerous of bassdom's citizens -- maybe 60% or 70% of all bassdom. They are the "Bass Owners." The next higher life form of bassdom owns a bass and practices musical things with it on a regular basis. He or she has played a regular gig at some point in the last twelve months. He or she has a repertoire of songs they can play, but improvisation beyond a 12-bar pattern is not usually their strong suit. Don't take them outside their preferred genre. These are the next most numerous of bassdom's citizens -- probably 20% to 30% of the total. They are the "Bass Players." The "Bassist" is the highest and rarest of all the citizens of bassdom. They can play. Any time, anywhere, any genre, any instrument, any tuning. They can slap and pop and perform a dozen techniques that sound great, but you've never heard of -- but they don't feel they have to do it to feed their own egos. The bassist isn't out to impress -- he or she is out to make the best music possible using the best technique possible. Why are they called "bassists?" Because they have earned it!I love that answer!! I myself am a bass player strivnig to be a bassist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wraub Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Because "The kinda heavy set guy in the back wearing the big guitar while looking at the drummer" takes too long to say. Peace, wraub I'm a lot more like I am now than I was when I got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Bazbo Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 I, too, am a bass player striving to one day become a bassist. I could never claim to be near the same level as , but neither am I a deer-in-the-headlights beginner. My previous answer was mostly for fun and entertainment. Still, I think the distinctions are meaningful. For a "bass owner" to claim to be a "bassist" is laughable. The title "bassist" gives us all something to shoot for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Because 'arborist' was already taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylver Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 It's bassist because "basser" sounds stupid. As for Flash's theory, hmmmmmm, I think it's a little thin. I really don't know what to put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TShakazBlackRoots Posted April 8, 2004 Author Share Posted April 8, 2004 Basser That's crazy. Bass Guitarist As Steve Lawson has greatly said that the grade system is bollocks (he's a Bassist, Bass owner, Bass abuser etc....), I would like to come out of the closet on this board and anounce that I'm a Bassaholic Do we have Bassaholics Anonymous? It Began In Afrika. https://www.facebook.com/BlackRootsUNLIMITED/ https://www.facebook.com/TanquerayAllMusicSafari/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butcherNburn Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Bassaholocs and Gasaholics meet hear daily. I'm Mike B. and I'm a bassaholic. The trouble all began when.... If you think my playing is bad, you should hear me sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkALunk Kitty Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 I know I am the "beginner" here but I must say that attitudes such as Flash's are part of the reason that most people never pick up an instrument in the first place. One of the things that I thought about when I considered learning was the attitude I have witnessed from several musicians towards people who are just starting out. Disrespectful and downright mean!!! I would think that musicians as a group would be more supportive of people who want to learn and take more of a mentor role than a critic. But then I am just a "Bass Owner" at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TShakazBlackRoots Posted April 8, 2004 Author Share Posted April 8, 2004 I recognised I was a Bassaholic when I was only 17 yrs old. The sedd was planted when I was 9 yrs old. I don't want to make excuses but surely, Familyman from The Wailers was the catalyst of my Bassaholism. That's my story It Began In Afrika. https://www.facebook.com/BlackRootsUNLIMITED/ https://www.facebook.com/TanquerayAllMusicSafari/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Originally posted by FunkALunk Kitty: I know I am the "beginner" here but I must say that attitudes such as Flash's are part of the reason that most people never pick up an instrument in the first place. One of the things that I thought about when I considered learning was the attitude I have witnessed from several musicians towards people who are just starting out. Disrespectful and downright mean!!! I would think that musicians as a group would be more supportive of people who want to learn and take more of a mentor role than a critic. But then I am just a "Bass Owner" at this point. Real musicians remember how it was when they started playing and will be supportive and helpful of newer players. The mean ones are not real musicians, but poser/wannabe/B.S artists. Perhaps THEY should be designated as "musical instrument manipulators". Rock on, Kitty! If you play the bass you are a Bassist, no matter if others might be more accomplished than you at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylver Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Originally posted by FunkALunk Kitty: I know I am the "beginner" here but I must say that attitudes such as Flash's are part of the reason that most people never pick up an instrument in the first place. One of the things that I thought about when I considered learning was the attitude I have witnessed from several musicians towards people who are just starting out. Disrespectful and downright mean!!! I would think that musicians as a group would be more supportive of people who want to learn and take more of a mentor role than a critic. But then I am just a "Bass Owner" at this point. Don't feel bad. I don't fit into any of those catagories, either, and I've been playing bass for 22 years. I really don't know what to put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu Fhtagn Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Originally posted by Flash Bazbo: The "Bassist" is the highest and rarest of all the citizens of bassdom. They can play. Any time, anywhere, any genre, any instrument, any tuning. They can slap and pop and perform a dozen techniques that sound great, but you've never heard of -- but they don't feel they have to do it to feed their own egos. The bassist isn't out to impress -- he or she is out to make the best music possible using the best technique possible. Why are they called "bassists?" Because they have earned it!Man, my self-esteem just took a plastering. Why not just refer to ourselves (unless, of course, you are a "bassist") as "Lord High King Sh*t of the Bottom End ... ist." Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham56 Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 The best description I heard was from my tutor. If anyone asks him what he does for a living, he answers, "Oh, I make dull thuds" Cheers Graham www.talkingstrawberries.com - for rocking' blues, raw and fresh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getz out Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 This reminds me a bit of the argument; is it a bass or a bass guitar? It also reminds me of my answer; who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wraub Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 I play bass. Peace, wraub I'm a lot more like I am now than I was when I got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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