AROIOS Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I found myself preferring Arturia in 3 out of the 5 patches (#1, #2, #4). That said, I'd choose Oberheim just for the last patch alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 TBH, I can only hear a wisp of difference between them. That's excellent news for people who don't have $5K for the hardware. Sweetwater is offering the Arturia version for $74. If you have a serious Oberheim jones going, I feel sure you can get over "settling" for a software take on it. Your ears are forgiving. A few days' playing and they'll latch onto the best aspects. 1 Quote "I like that rapper with the bullet in his nose!" "Yeah, Bulletnose! One sneeze and the whole place goes up!" ~ "King of the Hill" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obxa Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 I'll be the crabby boomer... he had these guys on a similar Wurli shootout, to which I wasn't impressed. Got the feeling neither of them has every spent any real time with actual Ob's, Wurlis or older gear. Jack on the other hand always gets my full respect. Regardless, liked the Arturia (which I own) better too. The patches were indeed bit brighter- which I guess could fool you the same way if something is louder. They also had a tad more release on the envelopes in some patches.. Blindfolded I'd be fooled too except for bass patches. For virtual , I think the Gforce OBX is worth a serious look. For what it's worth, also has Tom Oberheim and Marcus Ryle's blessing. Gforce just did the OB -EZ which is absolutely superb. Before you plunk down on the Arturia, try the OBEZ demo. Or just buy it. Though based on the 8 voice SEM's, it's got the OB mojo. Simple interface, but enough to do plenty. The price is a no-brainer. Been considering downsizing the studio, and Gforce's synths have made me feel I could live without hardware. This coming from owner of Obxa, OB1k, and a Matrix 6. 4 Quote Chris Corso www.chriscorso.org Lots of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROIOS Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, obxa said: I'll be the crabby boomer... he had these guys on a similar Wurli shootout, to which I wasn't impressed. Got the feeling neither of them has every spent any real time with actual Ob's, Wurlis or older gear. Jack on the other hand always gets my full respect. Regardless, liked the Arturia (which I own) better too. The patches were indeed bit brighter- which I guess could fool you the same way if something is louder. They also had a tad more release on the envelopes in some patches.. Blindfolded I'd be fooled too except for bass patches. For virtual , I think the Gforce OBX is worth a serious look. For what it's worth, also has Tom Oberheim and Marcus Ryle's blessing. Gforce just did the OB -EZ which is absolutely superb. Before you plunk down on the Arturia, try the OBEZ demo. Or just buy it. Though based on the 8 voice SEM's, it's got the OB mojo. Simple interface, but enough to do plenty. The price is a no-brainer. Been considering downsizing the studio, and Gforce's synths have made me feel I could live without hardware. This coming from owner of Obxa, OB1k, and a Matrix 6. SonicProject's OP-X and Synapse Audio's Obsession are two other excellent contenders for the Oberheim sound. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcs Myth Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Some of the differences here can be heard in headphones, namely the pan spread and Voice Tuning. Voice tuning differences are one of the most important ‘re-discoveries’ in recent years as to why analog synths sounded so good. It’s also why the original Tom Sawyer res sweep sounded so good. Voice tuning is a separate thing from the normal detune you see on the front panel - VCO1 & VCO2. This is about under-the-hood differences between the actual oscillators under each key. Old analog synths had a different voice card for each note you held down (e.g. up to 8 voices), with inherently different tuning from card to card. The crucial thing is that each time you play a chord a DIFFERENT set of detuning occurs. Not all synths or soft synths have it. Its called variously VoiceOffset, Vintage mode, Pitch Drift (sic) etc. Some synths like Kurzweil’s allow you to build it manually, so you can also plug it in to the filter and envelopes as well. It really shows up on the Tom Sawyer Res sound, where the original is clearly several voice cards with different tuning, filter and envelope sweep offsets - thats why it was so good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgoo Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Add This guy to the Arturia and for under $500 you've got a pretty solid option to the real thing that'll play much more nicely with your DAW. 4 Quote Custom Music, Audio Post Production, Location Audio www.gmma.biz https://www.facebook.com/gmmamusic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mike Metlay Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 17 hours ago, Malcs Myth said: Voice tuning is a separate thing from the normal detune you see on the front panel - VCO1 & VCO2. This is about under-the-hood differences between the actual oscillators under each key. Old analog synths had a different voice card for each note you held down (e.g. up to 8 voices), with inherently different tuning from card to card. The crucial thing is that each time you play a chord a DIFFERENT set of detuning occurs. Not all synths or soft synths have it. Its called variously VoiceOffset, Vintage mode, Pitch Drift (sic) etc. Some synths like Kurzweil’s allow you to build it manually, so you can also plug it in to the filter and envelopes as well. This is a big selling point on the latest versions of Arturia's virtual analog machines, and it sounds really good... the problem is setting the values too high, which can cause your synth to sound just plain wonky. Interestingly, this idea goes all the way back to the Wave 2.V software, which had an AKKU (battery) button to simulate wobbly voltages that produced some of the PPG's quirks. 1 Quote Dr. Mike Metlay (PhD in nuclear physics, golly gosh) Musician, Author, Editor, Educator, Impresario, Online Radio Guy, Cut-Rate Polymath, and Kindly Pedant Editor-in-Chief, Bjooks ~ Author of SYNTH GEMS 1 clicky!: more about me ~ my radio station (and my fam) ~ my local tribe ~ my day job ~ my book ~ my music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 The Arturia sounds nice but it's pretty obvious which is which. That said, it could be a simple matter of patch programming. For example, the French Horn patch on the Arturia sounded radically different than the OB-X8 and the OB-X8 does indeed sound the same as the original OB-Xa patch. 1 Quote Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROIOS Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 11 hours ago, Jim Alfredson said: The Arturia sounds nice but it's pretty obvious which is which. That said, it could be a simple matter of patch programming. For example, the French Horn patch on the Arturia sounded radically different than the OB-X8 and the OB-X8 does indeed sound the same as the original OB-Xa patch. I just tested that patch on the free OB-XD, and it destroyed Arturia's version in warmth. What a nice little piece of gem! untitled.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzjazz Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I really like the Obsession plugin. Sounds like the real deal to me. 1 Quote www.dazzjazz.com PhD in Jazz Organ Improvisation. BMus (Hons) Jazz Piano. my YouTube is Jazz Organ Bites 1961 A100.Leslie 45 & 122. MAG P-2 Organ. Kawai K300J. Yamaha CP4. Moog Matriarch. KIWI-8P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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