Roger Waters and Dark Side Of The Moon

[desertbluesman]

The only reason I ever listened to Pink Floyd was; Gilmour and his guitar work. Waters lyrics compositions and performances never mattered much to me truthfully. David Gilmour and his skill on guitar, was always bringing me back to the Floyd stuff.

[Scott Fraser]

Pink Floyd at their best were a band in the true sense of the word, with all four members contributing to their unique vision & sound. Wright was never a keyboard prodigy but his work was always very appropriate, understated, atmospheric, & affecting, & his background vocals complemented Gilmour's lead vocal perfectly. Mason apparently had a big hand in the creation of tape loops & other sound textures. Post-Waters Floyd is still interesting, though I find it indistinguishable from Gilmour's solo work. Good, intelligent music, fabulous sound design & production, yet not quite the full Pink Floyd experience. Pink Floyd informed everything I know about sound design & the use of real world environmental sound as an intrinsically musical element in composition. I can't think of a deeper influence on everything I do in music, both as a musician as well as an engineer.

[desertbluesman]

Of course the rest of the players in the Pink Floyd band at the time were excellent, but never my favorite band to listen to at any time. Every member did their job very well. I was just not into it all that much. I did admire David Gilmour and his guitar work. He could eek more feeling and tone out of the few notes he usually played than almost anyone of his era. I was more into blues and blues based rock at the time. So the rest of the band, although excellent was of little interest to me. I did go to a movie featuring Pink Floyd once at a drive in theater, and I actually left early because I was not into them and the film was boring in every way & was of no interest to me at the time. Back then I was not into production, arraigning, or even composition. So I was only listening to guitar players, so I could try and grab some of the feel and knowledge in playing. I was just transitioning from my a-Capella group, so I was really only a beginning guitarist when Floyd was at it's heyday. So for me its was Hendrix, Cream, Jeff Beck and the Beatles, Beach Boys, Buffalo Springfield, & also BB King. Of course once I did start into production I did my own thing and never did copy anyone. I always wanted to be original in my songs and licks.

 

My post above is basically to answer Waters public arrogance in bath mouthing the rest of the guys in the media lately. No matter how good any musician is, if that musician is an arrogant self absorbed, ego freak, badmouthing others I have no use for them or their work. Simple really,

[Caevan O’Shite]

Waters' own post-Floyd output was mostly pretty awful and forgettable.

This announced legal plagiarism of DSOTM is solely a money-grab; he'll be cutting most or all of any profits from this release from the remaining members of Pink Floyd.

He's an arrogant swollen-headed jerk, and complete POS hypocritical scum for being the official mouthpiece for Putin, Russia and the illegal invasion of Ukraine... He's bipedal ambulatory garbage, a bitching disease.

[Scott Fraser]

I see Waters is picking at old scabs again. A more enlightened person would be happy to let old arguments be bygones. 

 

<<This announced legal plagiarism of DSOTM is solely a money-grab; he'll be cutting most or all of any profits from this release from the remaining members of Pink Floyd.>>

 

The others will still get their publishing royalties as co-composers, but not any record sales payments. 

[Sharkman]

2 hours ago, Caevan O’Shite said:

Waters' own post-Floyd output was mostly pretty awful and forgettable.

This announced legal plagiarism of DSOTM is solely a money-grab; he'll be cutting most or all of any profits from this release from the remaining members of Pink Floyd.

He's an arrogant swollen-headed jerk, and complete POS hypocritical scum for being the official mouthpiece for Putin, Russia and the illegal invasion of Ukraine... He's bipedal ambulatory garbage, a bitching disease.

As a songwriter and musician, I have tremendous respect for Roger Waters.  As a person, I have absolutely no respect whatsoever.  He seems to love himself, and either dislike or hate pretty much everyone else on the planet.  Politically, he wants either socialism or outright communism for everyone else, but for himself, he is a greedier capitalist than the capitalists that he rails against in many of his songs.

[KuruPrionz]

26 minutes ago, Scott Fraser said:

I see Waters is picking at old scabs again. A more enlightened person would be happy to let old arguments be bygones. 

 

<<This announced legal plagiarism of DSOTM is solely a money-grab; he'll be cutting most or all of any profits from this release from the remaining members of Pink Floyd.>>

 

The others will still get their publishing royalties as co-composers, but not any record sales payments. 

VERY difficult to make money selling records, artist make money touring now. Streaming percentage on Spotify are absurdly low. The game has changed. 

 

Roger Waters touring DSOTM as a solo act won't generate much bling since he is pretty much considered to be an arrogant, fascist imbecile.

[Winston Psmith]

It's hard for me to think of Pink Floyd in terms of one album, or one era. There were arguably several versions of the band, before DSOTM, and Waters' commandeering of the band as a vehicle for his personal issues and resentments, or so it seemed? There are also far too many Pink Floyd "fans" who never really heard of nor listened to the band before 1973.

 

I still remember hearing "Piper At The Gates Of Dawn" as a young longhair, and loving the sound of that band, which was a rather short-lived version of Pink Floyd.

Interstellar Overdrive, See Emily Play, and The Gnome are still three of my favorite tunes, of any band, from any era. Interstellar . . . offered a blueprint for bands like Hawkwind to build on, See Emily Play was pure, unabashed Psychedelia, and IMHO, Waters never wrote a lyric as simple, and yet moving, as this  . . .

 

"Look At The Sky,

Look At The River,

Isn't It Good?

Look At The Sky,

Look At The River,

Isn't  It Good?"

 

Here endeth the rant. Thank you for listening . . .

[Caevan O’Shite]

50 minutes ago, Winston Psmith said:

It's hard for me to think of Pink Floyd in terms of one album, or one era. There were arguably several versions of the band, before DSOTM, and Waters' commandeering of the band as a vehicle for his personal issues and resentments, or so it seemed? There are also far too many Pink Floyd "fans" who never really heard of nor listened to the band before 1973.

 

I still remember hearing "Piper At The Gates Of Dawn" as a young longhair, and loving the sound of that band, which was a rather short-lived version of Pink Floyd.

Interstellar Overdrive, See Emily Play, and The Gnome are still three of my favorite tunes, of any band, from any era. Interstellar . . . offered a blueprint for bands like Hawkwind to build on, See Emily Play was pure, unabashed Psychedelia, and IMHO, Waters never wrote a lyric as simple, and yet moving, as this  . . .

 

"Look At The Sky,

Look At The River,

Isn't It Good?

Look At The Sky,

Look At The River,

Isn't  It Good?"

 

Here endeth the rant. Thank you for listening . . .

Not a rant, not at all.  

[Larryz]

Like DBM I truly appreciate David Gilmour's guitar playing.  I also love Pink Floyd and the Darkside of the Moon.  It's the music the band creates that really attracts my attention and I pay no attention to the politics...😎

[Radagast]

19 hours ago, Caevan O’Shite said:

Waters' own post-Floyd output was mostly pretty awful and forgettable.

This announced legal plagiarism of DSOTM is solely a money-grab; he'll be cutting most or all of any profits from this release from the remaining members of Pink Floyd.

He's an arrogant swollen-headed jerk, and complete POS hypocritical scum for being the official mouthpiece for Putin, Russia and the illegal invasion of Ukraine... He's bipedal ambulatory garbage, a bitching disease.

He’s also an anti-Semitic piece of human debris.

[Ivan May]

I also find it cool that Dark Side Of The Moon is 50 years old, It was the first of many great albums Pink Floyd had in the Seventies, including Wish You Were Here, Animals, and The Wall. Most of their Eighties output is critically reviled, but I also really like David Gilmour's solo album About Face, released in 1984.

 

And I will also conclude by saying that David Gilmour is an amazing guitarist who certainly changed the world with his songwriting and guitar playing. And roger Waters is a great bass player, but he is also an egotistical money machine.

[David Emm]

As a major follower, I think losing Syd Barrett is the worst thing to have happened to Pink Floyd. His lyrics were the creative, fun, trippy ones. They lost their best songwriting balance. Roger has been chewing on the loss of his father for years, which in turn, seems to inform a lot of his misanthropy. Its made the band sometimes feel whiny in the midst of the group brilliance. His latest political yowlings are just embarrassing.

 

Still, it was always a superior band overall and immensely inspiring from several angles. "Atom Heart Mother" left me floating happily around near the ceiling... you know, up there with Ringo, waiting for Yoko to leave. Roger is Floyd's Yoko.

 

There's no point in staining my good memories with a remix. DSOTM is close enough to proverbial perfection as-is.

[Caevan O’Shite]

1 hour ago, IMMusicRulz said:

I also really like David Gilmour's solo album About Face, released in 1984.

I saw David Gilmour and a stellar band that included Bad Company's Mick Ralphs on that album's supporting tour; to this day perhaps the overall best concert I've attended! A number of classic Floyd songs were on the set-list along with everything from both About Face and his eponymous first solo-album.