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18 hours ago, MRBarton said:

 

Hi Steve,

 

You might have gotten a tear in your eye playing the Pirates preset, but I also got a tear in my eye reading your wonderful comments.  It's feedback like yours that makes this monumental effort we all went through worthwhile.

 

As is my bent, a tiny correction here.  The modulation is not accomplished with the RING MODULATOR.  It is the SUB OSCILLATOR working the voice filters with TOUCH RESPONSE -- SUB OSC AFTER increasing the SPEED and VCF depth.

 

The Pirates intro that uses this sound is easy enough to figure out and the rest of the intro is just a repeated (and slightly arpeggiated) C F Bb C chord (top note is middle-C).  I used to play Pirates all the way through pretty well, but I've forgotten practically all of it and my chops have kinda fallen away too.  Too much typing and not enough playing.  I can still manage a pretty mean Tarkus though.

 

I've attached all the presets I used to make my demo recording which is among the others at the bottom of https://cherryaudio.com/products/gx-80

 

Once again, thanks for your great feedback and rock on!

 

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I am so happy my feedback struck a chord and touched you - you and the whole CA team deserve so much credit and thanks for this work of synth art. I think that the general reaction to this is coming over on this forum and elsewhere. This is a wonderful instrument.

 

Thanks for correcting me - as I typed it last last night sitting in bed I did wonder if I was making an error (and could not take a look and check) and thanks for explaining it more clearly for me.

 

I am also so grateful for your other patches from your superb demo - you are so kind and generous to share these. I will download and try now.

 

Best wishes and thank you

Steve

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9 minutes ago, KJX said:

Not as sick as I feel everytime I look on Reverb . . . 🤕

 

Oh everybody's got a story like that if you're old enough.  Heck, about 30 years ago I traded an ARP2500 (that's 2500) for a DX-7.  In my defense, it had a lot of blanks and the matrix switches were in poor shape, but still..

 

On a happier note, attached here is a hints & kinks (old ham radio term) document that went out to the sound designers before the GX-80 was released to give them a boost when starting to program all our wonderful presets.  It doesn't cover everything, so for that you should look at the documentation here: https://docs.cherryaudio.com/cherry-audio/instruments/gx-80/getting-started, but it does cover what is unconventional and weird about the instrument and those things I thought required clarification.

 

AND HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THIS?  https://www.musicradar.com/news/best-new-plugins-2022

It's barely been out a few weeks and we came in 2nd for best plugin of 2022!!  I like to think we came in 1st among instrument plugins because the thing that came in 1st is an effects processor.  Thanks to everyone who voted.

 

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59 minutes ago, MRBarton said:

 

 Heck, about 30 years ago I traded an ARP2500 (that's 2500) for a DX-7.  In my defense, it had a lot of blanks and the matrix switches were in poor shape, but still..

 

Nooooooooo!:ohmy:

 

I had the giant 2500 poster taped above my bed for years. Still have that, need to frame it! A desert island synth for me.

Moe

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45 minutes ago, mate stubb said:

I had the giant 2500 poster taped above my bed for years.

 

Wow, me too.  I wonder where that poster went.  If you want one, just get the Voltage Modular version on sale now for a mere $25 (shameless plug -- I wrote those modules too).  Sounds the same, works better, can have as much of any of it as you want = no brainer.    https://store.cherryaudio.com/bundles/vm2500-collection#description

Besides, it's really fun to mix and match it with the Moog 900 stuff.  https://store.cherryaudio.com/bundles/vm900-collection.

But the smartest move is to get it all right now (with the Oberheim stuff) in the Year Three Collection for only $65.  The value for money is insane.  I wish I was younger.

 

Sorry for the commercial and going off topic, but we always get requests asking for the Moog and ARP stuff to be made into plugins.  I don't think people realize that Voltage Modular is a plugin and making those synth systems into plugins would just put limitations on them.

 

Attached is the poster I had (have).  Same as yours?

 

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On 12/11/2022 at 9:00 PM, GabrielPas64 said:

 

Hi A.C.,

 

thank you for your interest in my little script. In the meantime I have included a txt file with some explanation in the zip archive (attached here). In short, to use the script you  must load it into the ReaJS VST plugin (which is part of the ReaPlugs free package: https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/) and you have to route the MIDI output from your controller through ReaJS into the VST Instrument, which in turn should be able to use poly-AT. The script "tells" ReaJS how to behave with the incoming MIDI messages.

 

 

midipressuretopoly3.zip 2.18 kB · 5 downloads

 

Please be aware that the above link is broken. The correct one is https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/ , without the final ")". Sorry for that.

Gabriel

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I have also picked up a Hydrasynth Deluxe.  They should really thank us for boosting their sales.  Anyway, I know folks have gotten it working with keyboard and pressure, but are having problems getting the ribbon to send messages or respond correctly with the GX-80.  If anyone has gotten all that squared away, it would be great if you could fill us all in regarding settings, etc.  Thanks.

 

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18 hours ago, GabrielPas64 said:

 

Sorry...they are available...it's just that, when I pasted the text into my reply, the closing parenthesis was wrongly included in the link. The correct link is https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/ . A 64 bit version is also available. Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

gabriel

 

 

thx a lot,- that will work !

 

:)

 

A.C.

 

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I'm finding the GX-80 in its "pad zone" is pretty amazing with MIDI guitar. MIDI guitar doesn't like percussive presets, because they pick up on every little false trigger, whereas those short triggers get glossed over by sounds with attack times. Of course, you can always edit out the false triggers and such later, but for real-time playing, pads are best suited to MIDI guitar. 

 

I'm finding that the guitar voicings give a very different flavor compared to what I would normally play on keyboards. I thought the channelization aspect would be a problem with MIDI guitars in Mono mode, but that's easy enough to take care of at the DAW itself. 

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10 hours ago, MRBarton said:

I have also picked up a Hydrasynth Deluxe.  They should really thank us for boosting their sales.  Anyway, I know folks have gotten it working with keyboard and pressure, but are having problems getting the ribbon to send messages or respond correctly with the GX-80.  If anyone has gotten all that squared away, it would be great if you could fill us all in regarding settings, etc.  Thanks.

 

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Mark

I got mine to work by going to System Setup menus (button access on main panel) then page 6 and the RbnPB TX option which I changed to ON and then it worked fine. I think that is all I did

 

Best wishes

Steve

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2 hours ago, SKentish said:

I got mine to work by going to System Setup menus (button access on main panel) then page 6 and the RbnPB TX option which I changed to ON and then it worked fine. I think that is all I did

 

Same with me and my Hydrasynth.

 

dB

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:keys:==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <==:rawk:

 

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18 hours ago, GabrielPas64 said:

Please be aware that the above link is broken. The correct one is https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/ , without the final ")". Sorry for that.

Gabriel

 

Gabriel,- unfortunately I don´t see a chance to just only installing THAT ReaJS plugin into acurrent Reaper version which is what I´m using.

ALL the ReaPlugs are already included in Reaper, except ReaJS !

But, when selectiong ReaJS only for installation from the v2.3.6 pack, there will be "many" plugins including, older versions possibly overwriting younger versions.

Not enough, scripts seem to be meant to run from action list in latest Reaper, which might be the reason the older ReaJS plugin doesn´t exsist in Reaper anymore.

 

So, WHEN you have any advise "how to" use your script in latest Reaper x64 version, plz let me know.

I´m interested to try w/ Memorymoon "ME80" CS 80 clone ...

 

Is there another  way creating a ready to use JS plugin from your script, maybe by using another/older host (on a different machine) ?

 

:)

 

A.C.

 

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9 hours ago, Al Coda said:

 

Gabriel,- unfortunately I don´t see a chance to just only installing THAT ReaJS plugin into acurrent Reaper version which is what I´m using.

ALL the ReaPlugs are already included in Reaper, except ReaJS !

But, when selectiong ReaJS only for installation from the v2.3.6 pack, there will be "many" plugins including, older versions possibly overwriting younger versions.

Not enough, scripts seem to be meant to run from action list in latest Reaper, which might be the reason the older ReaJS plugin doesn´t exsist in Reaper anymore.

 

So, WHEN you have any advise "how to" use your script in latest Reaper x64 version, plz let me know.

I´m interested to try w/ Memorymoon "ME80" CS 80 clone ...

 

Is there another  way creating a ready to use JS plugin from your script, maybe by using another/older host (on a different machine) ?

 

:)

 

A.C.

 

 

Hi A.C.!

 

I am not using Reaper, so take this info with a grain of salt. Maybe some Reaper expert here can confirm...anyway, it seems that in order to use my script in Reaper you just have to do as follows:

 

Open Reaper.

Go to Options->Show REAPER resource path in explorer/finder

Navigate to the ‘Effects’ folder.

If it's not already there, create a "midi" folder in the Effects folder and put the file "midipressuretopoly" into it.

 

At this point, I don't know if you have to quit and restart Reaper in order to make it "seeing" the new effect. I would do it, just to be sure.

After restarting Reaper, create a track and open the FX browser. There, in the JS folder, you should find my plugin.

 

Another possible way to obtain the same result could be (taken from this site: https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/2018/02/08/Write-a-Reaper-MIDI-JSFX-from-scratch.html )

 

Create a track

Open the FX browser (click the FX button on the track)

Navigate to the JS folder

Right click the JS folder and select Create New JS FX...

Enter the name: "midipressuretopoly"

 

Now open Reaper. Add a track then click the FX button. Find the JS plugin that you just created. 

You will see the window on the left in the image above (see image on the site I have linked above).

Click that button that says ‘Edit’ and a text editor will open up in Reaper with our file.

Now you just have to copy and paste the whole content of my file "midipressuretopoly" in the Reaper text editor and save it.

 

Unfortunately, I have not Reaper installed on my PC, so I can't check all of this myself. Wishing you the best of luck...I am thankful that you are still trying to use my plugin in spite of all these stumbling blocks! 

 

Gabriel

 

 

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There is no shortage of Electone organs sporting panels like this on the used market. There's 15 paddles on this old guy, plus switches which could be repurposed. There are midi retrofit companies who take tech as old as, and older than, this and midify it.
Can't help but wonder what it would take to bolt a couple of these panels together and yammify control for the GX-80?

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2 minutes ago, Adrian Lee said:

There is no shortage of Electone organs sporting panels like this on the used market. There's 15 paddles on this old guy, plus switches which could be repurposed. There are midi retrofit companies who take tech as old as, and older than, this and midify it.
Can't help but wonder what it would take to bolt a couple of these panels together and yammify control for the GX-80?

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I see stuff like this all the time at thrift stores. 

At this point, I need another project like a sledgehammer to the forehead!!! 😘

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10 hours ago, GabrielPas64 said:

Hi A.C.!

 

I am not using Reaper, so take this info with a grain of salt. Maybe some Reaper expert here can confirm...anyway, it seems that in order to use my script in Reaper you just have to do as follows: ...

 

 

 

Thank you Gabriel,- I´ll follow your advise and try that ASAP.

 

:)

 

A.C.

 

 

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On 12/14/2022 at 12:59 PM, GabrielPas64 said:

Another possible way to obtain the same result could be (taken from this site: https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/music/2018/02/08/Write-a-Reaper-MIDI-JSFX-from-scratch.html )

 

Create a track

Open the FX browser (click the FX button on the track)

Navigate to the JS folder

Right click the JS folder and select Create New JS FX...

Enter the name: "midipressuretopoly"

 

Now open Reaper. Add a track then click the FX button. Find the JS plugin that you just created. 

You will see the window on the left in the image above (see image on the site I have linked above).

Click that button that says ‘Edit’ and a text editor will open up in Reaper with our file.

Now you just have to copy and paste the whole content of my file "midipressuretopoly" in the Reaper text editor and save it.

 

 

Well,- after I was unable to get your JS plugin recognized in Reaper, the above did it,- almost,- so thx a lot !

Important:

The resulting JS plugin should NOT go into a/the "MIDI"-folder you mentioned above.

Instead I placed it into the "Effects" root-folder once Reaper showed it´s ressouces path and voilà,- it got recognized then.

 

Works pretty well w/ ME80 ! :thu:

 

Now it would be interesting to create a VST plugin from JS code plugin,- just only to use it in other hosts too.

I googled already but haven´t found yet ...

 

As an alternative I´ll try to install the "ReaPlugs" you mentioned above into a seperate vstplugins folder not being scanned by Reaper, then try using ReaJS w/ your code in other hosts.

 

we´ll see,-

 

:)

 

A.C.

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On 12/16/2022 at 12:00 PM, Al Coda said:

Now it would be interesting to create a VST plugin from JS code plugin

Hi there, it is a plug in and it should work in all hosts. The reaJS dll hosts the scripts. Where I had some confusion on the PC was that the install placed a duplicate bunch of presets into the VST folder which had me placing Gabriel's script there.  This is NOT where the script should live! On my PC laptop the install places a second copy of the plugins here:
C:\Users\MyComputer\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\Effects\
This was revealed when I opened the reaJS plugin, loaded any old script, hit EDIT and the path was shown across the top, as in the attached shot.

At the path I found all the subfolders for various scripts, and as there was one for MIDI, that seemed an appropriate home so I stuck it in there and voila! When reaJS was instantiated the polypressure script was available. In Cantabile I was easily able to map controllers to the parameters. The switch which either resets the Poly AT or maintains the value when a new note is hit is very useful!! 

So, grab the plugin collection, one of which is reaJS, from here https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/


Load the reaJS dll into your host and load a script. Works perfectly here.
 

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11 hours ago, Adrian Lee said:


Load the reaJS dll into your host and load a script. Works perfectly here.

 

yes,- that works too, but is at least 2 actions.

It should be possible to make a MIDI-VST3 (and/or CLAP) plugin from code being loaded into the JS shell plugin.

Something "set & forget" and being usable everywhere.

The ReaPlugs are old, only VST2 x86 & x64, and won´t be supported forever by host manufacturers.

Same rules for the very good The Piz MIDI plugin-suite from the past.

 

:)

 

A.C.

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7 hours ago, Al Coda said:

very good The Piz MIDI plugin-suite

Yes - those would be missed. 
Here’s a thought though - there are some advantages to running heavy plugins in Vienna Ensemble Pro. You can keep a system running at low latency and target extra buffers into just the VEP instantiations. And guess what? VEP has no VST3 support and hard filters poly AT. The irony of having to use VST2 and that using the script inside VEP as the only way to get it work, because VEP ain’t letting poly AT in.   Plus, you have to use something like DDMF Metaplugin inside VEP because it has no MIDI routing. 🤪

One step, ya say? This is a long walk. It does work beautifully though. 
(And it goes without saying that, once configured, it's recallable and available on demand.)

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These last few posts sound really intriguing... but way over my head. I'm still at VSTs 101. 😉

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May i ask a beginners question?

 

I want to scroll through the preset bank (favourites) during playing.

My remote is a nord electro. The GX-80 is able to learn the midi signals.

 

How to connect the Piano select drawknob of the nord directly to the preset bank of the GX-80 in the fav-directory? I know i can easily step one position in this bank forward by simply pressing STRG + RIGHT on the machine. How to bring this clicks to my knob?

 

Thanks you so much for you thoughts.

Yours sincerly, Pit

 

BTW: As an classical trained organist i am really satisfied with the GX-80. Overwhelming sound!! This is so inspiring and main factor for my improvisations.

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