LX 88 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I lucked out ! I am a big fan of any and all Key B organ products. A friend of mine bid on a Viscount EXP organ module and we wound up getting this for $ 325. However there is no owners manual and they are damn hard to find online. So here are some impressions. It defaults to the leslie sim business...I confess I hate that because my go to sound is chorus vibrato without any spin. But IMO...the leslie sim is great! Why...???because it doesn't try to impress using a bunch cabinet sim or mic placement or all kinds of editing crazy making. No Just a nice subtle spin that affects the organ tone less than any other sim I have used. I was able to find percussion volume control. Huge plus for the Viscount here. Once again percussion volume access is crucial to me because different speakers and phones behave differently. The overdrive isn't too bad... not a big issue for me and there seem to be more editing parameters than the Legend solo keyboard. And this also has 3 band EQ. I like this because most leslies have a pretty substantial gap in the midrange and clonewheels sound warmer to me with mids backed off slightly. Another plus. Without the manual I don't have a clue how to set up upper and lower split. There probably all kinds of other things I need to know that a manual would provide. So where is this stupid thing online????We found one in SPANISH last night. Viscount is not making this sort of thing easy I still have my Numa ! and still like it. To me Key B chorus vibrato and leslie sim are my favorite in the clonewheel world. But I find that each player likes something different. What I like is probably going to be different from what you like. If anyone can post a link to the MANUAL for the Key B Viscount Legend expander...it would be greatly appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Motif Max Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Silly question, but have you reached out to Viscount directly? Quote Yamaha: Motif XF8, MODX7, YS200, CVP-305, CLP-130, YPG-235, PSR-295, PSS-470 | Roland: Fantom 7, JV-1000 Kurzweil: PC3-76| Hammond: SK Pro 73 | Korg: Triton LE 76, N1R, X5DR | Emu: Proteus/1 | Casio: CT-370 | Novation: Launchkey 37 MK3 | Technics: WSA1R Former: Emu Proformance Plus & Mo'Phatt, Korg Krome 61, Roland Fantom XR & JV-1010, Yamaha MX61, Behringer CAT, Kurzweil PC4 (88) Assorted electric & acoustic guitars and electric basses | Roland TD-17 KVX | Alesis SamplePad Pro | Assorted organs, accordions, other instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKey Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Googled: Legend Exp Manual and this was the first hit. Viscount Legend Exp Web Page The PDF manual is right there under support ready to be downloaded. I've attached it here as well so you don't have to do that... Legend-Exp-IT-EN-DE-FR-ed13.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKey Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mighty Motif Max said: Silly question, but have you reached out to Viscount directly? Not a silly question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LX 88 Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 Not on a Sunday no. And of course Red Key would know about the manual. Seriously....we could not come up with it last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LX 88 Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 I tried the link Red Key sent and it leads me to a brief overview of the module only only. Perhaps one of you has one of these and has set up the upper lower split on a single keyboard Beyond that I am getting a great sound out of the upper manual. The overdrive seems different than my older Legend solo keyboard version. I have also heard that Viscount offers downloadable organs but once again its not tremendously obvious where this would be. Viscount has so many different models of church organs etc....the whole Key B thing seems like a sideline. And too bad that Joey D. is not around for promotion anymore, But yes... I m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, LX 88 said: I tried the link Red Key sent and it leads me to a brief overview of the module only only. As he said, after you go to that link, "The PDF manual is right there under support ready to be downloaded." He also attached the manual to his message, but definitely check out the Support section of that page anyway, because not only is that where the manual is, but that's also where you will find the editors, OS updates, and the downloadable alternate organ models. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LX 88 Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 When I go to the right there under support ready to be downloaded stuff I just get a bunch of catalog and advertisement. What should we do with the rest of us dumb and technically challenged. Would a concentration camp be a good idea? Where is Sven when you need him? Will try again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, LX 88 said: When I go to the right there under support ready to be downloaded stuff I just get a bunch of catalog and advertisement. Hmm. I don't know how it appears on mobile, if that's what you're using, but from a desktop browser, you should see something like this: Here is the top of the page... and then when you click that Support tab, it scrolls you further down to this... 1 Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 ...and Scott is the winner of the "over and above award" this week. Cheers, Mike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LX 88 Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 OK.... this was under "support" but not downloads. And yes...Scott's last post pointed out where it was so THANK YOU SCOTT Anyway...regarding EXP expander. Very big WOW on this....I have the Mojo module and HX3. The guy who put this on ebay GAVE it away. The overdrive and leslie sim have big improvements. CV on Key B has always been excellent. Great EQ section...lots of bass, which is not always the case with modules. I like using different controllers too. I am just saying ...if you are looking for clonewheel sounds....as far as what I have been looking for thi just bout nails it. Great for rock and jazz. BIg kudos to Joey D.'s input on all Key B products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LX 88 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 Just wondering what might be a good controller for this. I know there is probably a thread on that somewhere..... waterfall keys would be optional. To me this leslie sim is far and away not most natural sounding. And there is no temptation to edit it... no muss no fuss. From what I have seen there is too much emphasis on programming " character" into some other leslie sims in the other modules I have tried. The Key B affects the basic tone less .And they improved the overdrive.... There are 6 organ models on this and the neat thing is the 30's BC model. This one is different than my older keyboard version.... but the all the way down bass is just incredible.... haven't seen anyone else address this. I have loved Key B since getting the Numa 1 in 2011. There was plenty of bitching about that...supposedly had latency....nonsense. It's obvious to me why Joey D. went with Key B/ Viscount. There couldn't have been that much money in it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 hours ago, LX 88 said: what might be a good controller for this. I know there is probably a thread on that somewhere..... waterfall keys would be optional clonk here it´s possibly the one and only available today. Advantage: You can use it for many organ clones, hardware and software,- and for more ! B.t.w.,- I didn´t like it´s previous look and like much better now. Unfortunately, it´s not available @Thomann a.t.m.. I hope it will come back for an acceptable price ... A.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenWaB3 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Let me give this a try. I had the Legend Module a few years ago. Hope this helps Legend Exp (IT-EN) v10.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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