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LX 88

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  1. I'm a Bulimic.....I couldn't eat it if I tried.
  2. Combing through this thread and still trying to figure out the differences between 5000 6000 and 7000 Still haven't seen any show up at GC's in Oregon....of course I am curious...the more budget Casios have dissapointed me in the past but I am somewhat of a fan of some of the older battery operated ones from past decades. The CTK4400 ( a rare 61 note board) is somewhat of a go to workhorse for me because it has Rhodes similar to the Yamaha Motif. Bang for the buck. Some people have stated that Casio is going for the Yamaha P515 market. There is a used 515 available in my area that I am considering. Does anyone know if the 515 is similar to the CP4 acoustic sample? But back to these new Casios. I don't generally use much beyond acoustic and electric pianos. What are the main differences in the acoustic and electric samples. Would love to find out for myself but there just aren't any around yet.
  3. Wow../ no idea he was that young when he joined The Wailers And how did they even have Hammonds in Jamaica during those years? I caught a later version of the Wailers live in around 2000 and the guy they had then was playing an M-3. There was a recording from about 1973 0r 1974 of Bob and the Wailers recorded in the Bay Area from a radio broadcast.... I believe it was released under the title Talking Blues. Would that be Tyrone? The Hammond was heavily featured on tracks such as Concrete Jungle, Burning and Looting, Kinky Reggae etc. The keyboards are given more space on live Wailers recordings IMO. I assume Family Man and Al Anderson are still around but many Wailers are gone including Bob, Bunny and Peter. Weeping and Waiing tonight.....
  4. Even better... the original Key B/ Joey DeFrancesco Numa One. I still have mine. It holds its own....in my opinion.....to the Crumar Mojo ( I have the desktop module ) anything HX3, anything Nord etc.etc. etc. The original KeyB NAILED IT. I still think it was one of the great developments of the 21st century. Crumar followed in its path.... a great company granted however, Elvio and Joey gave us the first clone with usable chorus vibrato and decent leslie sim in one package. I would say that the Viscount has perhaps a slightly better leslie sim and I am sorry but I just can't come to terms with the Mojo sim OR HX3 chorus vibrato. I haven't checked the market for a Numa 1 lately....but because of Joey's passing.... unfortunately...who knows, it may become collectable.
  5. If you ever want to hear a M-3 taken to the max check out recordings by NEIL LARSEN.... albums such as Jungle Fever or High Gear.I am not sure what he might be doing now .... the last I heard he was gigging with Leonard Cohen right before Leonard died. Neil was one of the real masters in the Hammond kingdom. He and Brian Auger seemed to carry the torch during the fusion era. Both gigged with bass players. Anyway Neil gigged an M-3 and I asked him why. According to him an M-3 offered more clarity in the mid range and upper register. He got a nice subtle overdrive at his live gigs through a 145 leslie. For a time he and Buzz Feiten were the dynamic duo of the L.A. music scene. Their tune"Who Will Be the Fool Tonight" got lots of airplay and Neil is also featured on the Larsen Feiten Band LP ....they later called themselves Full Moon. P:roduced by Tommy La Puma and Al Schmit on Warner Brothers. For whatever reason a lot of people are not aware of Neil. He is a major figure . \
  6. Wow.... "Breathless" on a 78 is VERY COOL. Specially a Sun 78. Wow. I have also come to appreciate Linda Gail Lewis, his sister. In the last several years it seemed like she has been more functionally active.... and she has a great personality in her music. A boogie woogie country girl for sure. Boogie Woogie was a big deal back in the day. Jerry Lee and Linda Gail absorbed the craze.....Beat Me Daddy Eight to the Bar... Down the Road Apiece.... probably Amos Milburn,,,,who knows how they got it. The music existed before they called it Rock and Roll. Yeah... Jerry Lee and Little Richard on keys. The perfect messengers. It seemed unlikely that he would outlive most of the important figures of that era.... another milestone I suppose. Carl Perkins, Elvis and all the rest have been gone for quite some time. \
  7. A lot of guys do a lot of dumb things. Some guys think outside the box . I might be one of them.....maybe. So for the rest of you who don't have to have a B-3 and a 122....or maybe don't have to have a Hammond Suzuki logo on your clonewheel I finally did get the C-2 running. There was a problem with the start motor not kicking over ... that was stuck. So the C-2 is now purring sweetly. The PR 40 works fine... and as I have been saying....it is a match made in Heaven ( my opinion) with this C-2. The old Hammond guys were correct. The PR 40 sounds warm and fat because of the 2 15 inch woofers for lows and the two 12 inch speakers that catch all the highs. There is a sweet spot on this thing that sounds quite unlike a leslie speaker. There is an emphasis on midrange that I find lacking in a leslie. Sorry....but that is what I hear. Of course right now there is no percussion on the C-2 but I bet it sounds just fine when it is installed. And no I don't have to have anything spinning. The chorus vibrato is just fine with me....there are so many jazz recordings that give examples of that. 2 speed leslies did not even become common until the late 60's Booker T. era and that was more of a rock thing. And correct me if I am wrong ... but do I see only two tubes in the C-2 preamp? How beautifully simple. It seems to add to the warm character that I am hearing As far as adding a Vent to the PR 40....well first it is not stereo. And once again it is not spin I am seeking. The Hammon CV is just fine left alone. The point of all of this....if it is correct that a C-2 and PR 40 is only "worth" 500 or less then strongly consider it if you can find one. It's a lot of Hammond for that money.
  8. These things aren't always about REVENUE or the amount of MONEY that something generates. I guess to some people that is the BOTTOM LINE. I made my living as a professional musician for many years and about 25 years ago got interested in Hammond organs, and Fender Rhodes and Wurlitzer EP's for rentals to recording studios and live gigs. During these years I rented Hammond and Leslie equipment to Billy Preston, Joey DeFrancesco, Dr. Lonnie Smith, Briam Auger, Tony Monaco , Chester Thompson and many others. This happened up and down the West Coast between Portland and Seattle and occasionally beyond. During this period it was always a privilege to ask a lot of questions,,,,these guys always had a lot to say about what they did and didn't like. The biggest problem was DISTORTION in single leslie systems. Most of these guys did like to crank it . So a big problem would be the leslie and finding tubes that did not break up and also treble drivers that did not distort. So my solution was suggested to me by Bob Schleicher in the Bay Area. He recommended that in these rental leslies that I install Atlas horn drivers. And it did give me a better result. So back to the PR 40. I like it because it does not have a horn. I like the way it responds to percussion and the fact that the 12 inch drivers capture all the high frequencies of a Hammond. AS it was intended to do. I had been looking for a 2 series organ for awhile and also a PR 40. The monetary value means nothing or not much. As indicated abpve there are plenty of other people that agree that THEY ARE NOT WORTHLESS.
  9. What is this business that PR40's aren't worth anything ?....that is total nonsense. Now I find out that in addition to the Jensen P12Q's this thing also has P15 N woofers. Uh.... have you checked the SOLD LISTINGS on e bay for the cost of vintage Jensens ? As indicated by the above post there are certain people who actually LIKE or prefer the sound of 2 series organs. One reason I like the PR 40 is that it captures some of the MIDRANGE of the Hammond sound that some leslies don't always get. In a leslie you have tis15 inch woofer firing at the floor and then a high frequency driver....if you take a good look at a lot of the old Jensens horn driver MANY of them have ALIGNMENT problems which cause distortion as soon as you turn them up. I happen to like the sound of the PR40. It gives me all the bass I need and all the mid/ highs which it was designed to do.As far as it being worthless....it appears to be just another example of devil's advocacy.....quite common with the person who posted it.
  10. So yes....I would be looking for a Trek II percussion unit when it gets here. I am not sure if they show up on e bay or if anyone here might have one???? The tone cab has 2 mint Jensen P12Q. They usually get a pretty good price on the ebay, that would cover the percussion unit expense. I actually played this organ last year. They keybed is great, it has smooth drawbars, and the chorus vibrato on it was sweet. This is a late 1954 C-2, right before they switched to B-3/C-3. As I said I have seen at last one savvy person add a B-3 preamp and the percussion switches. I have also seen an M-3 preamp hooked to a C-2 for percussion, But I am intrigued by the Trek 2 percussion unit so I am looking for that. I have not had a 2 series..... the thing that attracts me is how simple the preamp is. Its very old school tube technology and different in such a good way. We will see how this pans out.
  11. Yes...the generator was oiled from the top. George Benton has a website and he mentions trying to oil it from the bottom by lifting the generator. I believe they can actually use WD 40 externally but I am well aware that the Hammond oil is recommended for the internal gears. I have been able to fiddle with it at the store buy at this point they are so sick of it that they are willing to deliver it to my house. I would really like to find a Trek 2 percussion unit but I have also actually seen 2 series organs wired up to 3 series preamps with percussion switches. I would like to keep the preamp stock but I am intrigued by the Trek 2 units.... I believe they have percussion volume and decay adjustments right there. Everyone that I have known that has them seems to like them. I am pretty sure that the recording of The Sermon by Jimmy Smith features a B-2 with no percussion. That is a sound that you just can't get with a modern clonewheel. That is where you can hear what the key contact business is all about.
  12. OK...its been an interesting week for tonewheels and clonewheels..... The local piano store called me and asked if I would be willing to REMOVE a 1954 very late model Hammond C-2 and PR 40 from his shop. I had actually played this organ about a year ago and was severely tempted to buy it at that time. I am a fan of pre B-3 era organs . In case you don't know they do sound different in a good way.If you have ever heard a 2 series organ through headphones, the fidelity is incredible. Al;so the chorus vibrato is slightly different also in a good way. And if you add Trek 2 percussion you have everything you need to get tonewheel heaven. So anyway now this organ won't start and is squeeling and howling when you do try to start it. Back in the day I used to be a member of the Hamtech forum and guys like Sal Azzarelli and Harvey Olsen would always be there to tell me what I needed. As far as I know that forum no longer exists and this one is all I currently have. I know there are a few guys familiar with tonewheels....so I am reaching out once again for any info. Also...... IMO the PR 40 tone cabinets are also very cool. I don't need a leslie..... Hammond designed these cabinets to capture the sound of the organ tone and from my experience the PR 40 does this the best. It uses 2 15 inch woofers and 2 12 inch Jensens and uses no high frequency horns or anything like that. Anyway they made me a nice offer to come and get this thing. Does anyone have any info about addressing this generator noise? Thank you in advance....
  13. Just wondering what might be a good controller for this. I know there is probably a thread on that somewhere..... waterfall keys would be optional. To me this leslie sim is far and away not most natural sounding. And there is no temptation to edit it... no muss no fuss. From what I have seen there is too much emphasis on programming " character" into some other leslie sims in the other modules I have tried. The Key B affects the basic tone less .And they improved the overdrive.... There are 6 organ models on this and the neat thing is the 30's BC model. This one is different than my older keyboard version.... but the all the way down bass is just incredible.... haven't seen anyone else address this. I have loved Key B since getting the Numa 1 in 2011. There was plenty of bitching about that...supposedly had latency....nonsense. It's obvious to me why Joey D. went with Key B/ Viscount. There couldn't have been that much money in it....
  14. For clonewheel I use bass amps..... but I agree with Delaware Dave....PA stuff is too shrill I often use home stereo amps with full range JBL or EV drivers. Even for digital piano a good JBL will catch all the highs I need ....with some EQ A good some stereo amp will give you plenty of power. I look for Yamaha, Denon and ones with EQ can work well but often have less power. This is a market waiting to happen that I have thought about tapping into. There is a need to skillfully amplify the newer digital pianos.
  15. OK.... this was under "support" but not downloads. And yes...Scott's last post pointed out where it was so THANK YOU SCOTT Anyway...regarding EXP expander. Very big WOW on this....I have the Mojo module and HX3. The guy who put this on ebay GAVE it away. The overdrive and leslie sim have big improvements. CV on Key B has always been excellent. Great EQ section...lots of bass, which is not always the case with modules. I like using different controllers too. I am just saying ...if you are looking for clonewheel sounds....as far as what I have been looking for thi just bout nails it. Great for rock and jazz. BIg kudos to Joey D.'s input on all Key B products.
  16. When I go to the right there under support ready to be downloaded stuff I just get a bunch of catalog and advertisement. What should we do with the rest of us dumb and technically challenged. Would a concentration camp be a good idea? Where is Sven when you need him? Will try again....
  17. I tried the link Red Key sent and it leads me to a brief overview of the module only only. Perhaps one of you has one of these and has set up the upper lower split on a single keyboard Beyond that I am getting a great sound out of the upper manual. The overdrive seems different than my older Legend solo keyboard version. I have also heard that Viscount offers downloadable organs but once again its not tremendously obvious where this would be. Viscount has so many different models of church organs etc....the whole Key B thing seems like a sideline. And too bad that Joey D. is not around for promotion anymore, But yes... I m
  18. Not on a Sunday no. And of course Red Key would know about the manual. Seriously....we could not come up with it last night
  19. I lucked out ! I am a big fan of any and all Key B organ products. A friend of mine bid on a Viscount EXP organ module and we wound up getting this for $ 325. However there is no owners manual and they are damn hard to find online. So here are some impressions. It defaults to the leslie sim business...I confess I hate that because my go to sound is chorus vibrato without any spin. But IMO...the leslie sim is great! Why...???because it doesn't try to impress using a bunch cabinet sim or mic placement or all kinds of editing crazy making. No Just a nice subtle spin that affects the organ tone less than any other sim I have used. I was able to find percussion volume control. Huge plus for the Viscount here. Once again percussion volume access is crucial to me because different speakers and phones behave differently. The overdrive isn't too bad... not a big issue for me and there seem to be more editing parameters than the Legend solo keyboard. And this also has 3 band EQ. I like this because most leslies have a pretty substantial gap in the midrange and clonewheels sound warmer to me with mids backed off slightly. Another plus. Without the manual I don't have a clue how to set up upper and lower split. There probably all kinds of other things I need to know that a manual would provide. So where is this stupid thing online????We found one in SPANISH last night. Viscount is not making this sort of thing easy I still have my Numa ! and still like it. To me Key B chorus vibrato and leslie sim are my favorite in the clonewheel world. But I find that each player likes something different. What I like is probably going to be different from what you like. If anyone can post a link to the MANUAL for the Key B Viscount Legend expander...it would be greatly appreciated
  20. I can't relate to trains... no...if that is what we are talking about. Still trying to find out about any chorus vibrato improvement from HX3. I have the original module and chorus vibrato parameters drive me nuts! So many things to screw it up wheras my Viscount and even Numa 1 have luscious CV. Love the Viscount BC emulation also. More shallow CV....a welcome variation. Wish HX3 has something like it.
  21. I assume that the MAG is using HX3.5 or something....how is the chorus vibrato panning out on that? I probably have pretty good access to hearing an updated HX3 since McIntosh audio is doing service on these near where I live. Speaking of Voce... I recently revived a Micro B that I have had forever and found out there is a lot to like about Voce tone. The Micro B has percussion volume... and presets only . The percussion is particularly nice and it made me consider looking into getting something like a V3 for a minute. So I have considered updating my HX3 if there has been a CV improvement. I know Michael Mc Intosh has done several upgrades but I did'nt get to have hands on time while they were in. I know Darren is probably as picky as I am . I am still playing mainly Key B stuff including my original Numa 1. Love it!
  22. So yeah there is an mp7se near me at a great price. Rhodes could be a factor.... about the only thing I really need besides acoustic. Kawais are known for generally good action. Currently I have.... Yamaha CP5.... Roland RD300GX and a Roland FP 10. The FP 10 sample is surprisingly good... very even sounding overall. Excellent low end tones by the way. But I want something with a more serious action and hopefully a step up in the acoustic sample. I could possibly still sell the CP5. That would get me half the way to something like a Kawai. The RD300GX is still a keeper.... decent piano sample for its age and gorgeous warm sounding Rhodes. Anyway am contemplating checking this Kawai.
  23. I h aa I am still shopping around for perhaps a new digital piano. I have been frustrated by the way Yamaha approaches te lower 2 octaves and am also not wildly impressed with later Roland offerings. I might want to look at the MP7se because of the price point. I would be interested in hearing from Kawai owners regarding why you have chosen this and what the pros and cons of Kawai are lately.
  24. I ordered it at the last minute....not a clue how to set it up but will try to rely on more computer savvy friends for some help. Trying to decide whether to put on laptop or desk top....I would imagine desktop offers more flexibility and more potential memory power. Have a Yamaha CP5 for a controller
  25. I am always up for chat about older Rolands. Some people hate them who tend to like Hammond Suzuki....especially if they have connections to that company( hint)' Havent seen a 700 for awhile....are keys similar to VK8? More to say on this when I have time.
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