Markyboard Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Thought it might be good to get an early start on this topic. Yeah, it's rough being a visionary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 well, as soon as Grey joins this thread it will be at page 3 in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Behold, your wish is granted... To put this on somewhat firmer footing: Uli's official announcement of the UB-Xa He seems to be indicating that it will be at least a year. Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markay Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 "A Labour of Love" getting behind schedule? Who woulda thunk. Interesting Uli didn't post his invitation to provide ongoing input into its development here. Quote A misguided plumber attempting to entertain | MainStage 3 | Axiom 61 2nd Gen | Pianoteq | B5 | XK3c | EV ZLX 12P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I place this here... [video:youtube] Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 My apologies. I haven't been exerting myself. We haven't even gotten past the first page, much less to page 3. I shall redouble my efforts. Actually I've been waiting for the 2600 clone which will supposedly be in production by April or thereabouts. Until it begins slipping too... Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Grey Has Uli given even a HINT of the MAP Price on the UB-Xa? Ball Park? Mike T. Quote Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I'm not worried... the Model D was delayed several times. I'm pretty sure that the UB-Xa will come out eventually. They have undertaken a huge productive effort with these clones, and they were able to deliver a dozen already. Very curious to know about the sound, the price, and the "extra features" there are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 If they really aren't putting any fx on this thing, I may have to pass. I'd be using it for live and while I don't tend to use tons of reverb (especially if the place is a live one with wood floors etc) I do use some. Just don't understand the mentality, as it can't be that expensive or difficult to put the deepmind reverb or some other chip in there. It seems to be a philosophical "the original didn't have it" purist thing with him, which is unfortunate for my use case.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Some things to keep in mind. Those of us that owned those synths back in the dark ages had rack or floor based FX. It was not common for analog synths to have FX. I prefer to add my own FX if I want to add it. I wouldn't want a cheesy reverb put on a synth, pay the addition cost for the Mfg adding it. FX on any synth is not a deal breaker unless you don't have any other equipment. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Mike T. Quote Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 "Steroids", eh? Quote Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Some things to keep in mind. Those of us that owned those synths back in the dark ages had rack or floor based FX. It was not common for analog synths to have FX. I prefer to add my own FX if I want to add it. I wouldn't want a cheesy reverb put on a synth, pay the addition cost for the Mfg adding it. FX on any synth is not a deal breaker unless you don't have any other equipment. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Mike T. Correct, my synths back then didn't have them...but I sorely wished they did! I agree that cheesy reverb sucks, but there's no reason it has to be cheesy these days or costly. It is a deal breaker for me at least. I don't have any other equipment; not because I can't afford it, but because I don't want to set up an external send and bring more stuff. But I expect they know their market better than I do. I'd argue that whatever the fx cost, you'd sell more of them to people that don't know any better when they hear a nice verbed out preset vs a dry one. That wouldn't be people on this forum so much. There's no synth ever made that sounds very good dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Grey Has Uli given even a HINT of the MAP Price on the UB-Xa? Ball Park? Mike T. If he's said anything I haven't seen it. Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 There's no synth ever made that sounds very good dry. Huh. The way that I test that a synth sounds good is to test it dry. Quote Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 There's no synth ever made that sounds very good dry. I beg to differ. I've been playing synths since the late 1970s, and when I audition a synth at a store I test it dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 The Memorymoog dry is to die for. Sounds like it"s played through a bunch of stuff. Quote "The Angels of Libra are in the European vanguard of the [retro soul] movement" (Bill Buckley, Soul and Jazz and Funk) The Drawbars | off jazz organ trio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 'UB-Xa Update. We're proud to show you another big milestone in the development of the UB-Xa since we have just assembled what we call the "Tool Made Sample". The TMS milestone means that the design and all mechanical parts are all tooled and final - in short this is how the unit will look like. As you will notice, lots of changes and improvements have been made since the first prototype - many of which have come from you. Thank you for all your valuable input. However, we're still quite some time away from delivering the synthesizer as the firmware development is still ongoing. The UB-Xa is a very complex unit and frankly much has slowed down due to the current situation. Thank you for all your patience - we promise that it'll be worth the wait:-) Be safe! Uli' Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 From a slant. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboard Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 Love when one of my sarcastic threads comes to fruition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Hell, no one has even mentioned the ARP 2600--it was supposed to be released this month. What with the virus and all, it'll probably be next year before it's out. Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWkeys Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Isn't the paddle supposed to be split, one side for modulation and the other for pitch? Edit: just watched the video, and I see split paddles - maybe the picture is still of a mock-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Love when one of my sarcastic threads comes to fruition. you might as well jump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stokely Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 There's no synth ever made that sounds very good dry. I beg to differ. I've been playing synths since the late 1970s, and when I audition a synth at a store I test it dry. I do too. I want to know that the basic sound of the thing is solid, and most patches overdo the fx...but that totally dry patch is not a sound I would use in a mix or want people to hear as-is. By the same token most records don't use a totally dry vocal track even if the singer is great....always exceptions to that of course. I will admit that for most of my live gigs, I at least turn down the reverb or turn it off since the rooms tend to be quite reflective. So in a sense that defeats my argument since I'd be using this live After that big long Behringer thread about their practices, I'm no longer interested in their products in any case. That was pretty educational IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I only read articles related to Behringer sparingly. I like to know where the market is going overall, but after Uli's last snit-fit, I look on his product line with suspicion. Besides, its more nostalgia than need when I look at clones. Would a seriously updated MODERN "OB-X" be desirable? Yeah. I think its called an OB-6. Quote "Well, the 60s were fun, but now I'm payin' for it." ~ Stan Lee, "Ant-Man and the Wasp" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I only read articles related to Behringer sparingly. I like to know where the market is going overall, but after Uli's last snit-fit, I look on his product line with suspicion. Besides, its more nostalgia than need when I look at clones. Would a seriously updated MODERN "OB-X" be desirable? Yeah. I think its called an OB-6. The OB6 is close to the original sound, with some added features that are not on the originals. The only sound that apparently falls a bit short are the harmonics when using Sample/hold Filter. But Musically, its as good as its going to get. Some Players what an EXACT replica of the original and I say I don't want all the limitations of a KB made back in the Seventies. I want NEW features and more of everything they can provide. Its too bad that OB6 is $3000 or I would have one. Not because its not worth it, its because I can't afford to buy one, or much of anything. Once you're over 70 getting any kind of a decent paying job in a country that shipped most of our jobs overseas leaves us old people with crumbs. Quote Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rod76 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 There's a non midi OB-8 selling for 8000$, locally (w/ DSX sequencer). The existence of Behringer synthesizers make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Once you're over 70 getting any kind of a decent paying job in a country that shipped most of our jobs overseas leaves us old people with crumbs. please list examples of countries where you can get a decent paying job when one has passed the age of 70. I want to make plans to live there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analogaddict Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 The OB6 is close to the original sound, with some added features that are not on the originals. Having owned an OB-X, an OB-Xa and an Xpander as well as having worked with a Two-Voice I"d say my OB6 is definitely part of the OB family. I love it!!! The only two things lacking for me are two more voices and one more octave. This can be easily remedied in the studio, but if I were to bring an analog poly live I"d love to have 61 keys and 8 voices. It just matches how I think when I approach a poly analog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 The OB6 is close to the original sound, with some added features that are not on the originals. Having owned an OB-X, an OB-Xa and an Xpander as well as having worked with a Two-Voice I"d say my OB6 is definitely part of the OB family. I love it!!! The only two things lacking for me are two more voices and one more octave. This can be easily remedied in the studio, but if I were to bring an analog poly live I"d love to have 61 keys and 8 voices. It just matches how I think when I approach a poly analog. I owned an OBX 6 voice, and later an OBXa 8 voice back in the dark ages too. I never owned an Xpander. 61 keys certainly can be an advantage. The most recent 2nd KB I used in my live Classic Rock show was a 4 octave Alesis ION, which has split KB and sounds capability. Lighter, smaller, and less expensive. Of course, it doesn't sound anywhere near as FAT as an Oberheim. Quote Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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