pizzafilms Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 You've got to be kidding me. March 2015 issue, page 47. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 You've got to be kidding me. March 2015 issue, page 47. my copy is home, I'm at work today. What's up? :idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzafilms Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 "Another 1970's keyboard innovation was the Arp Odyssey, which Wakeman used extensively for his pad sounds." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16251 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Maybe he liked to use a lot of 2-note pads. AvantGrand N2 | ES520 | Gallien-Krueger MK & MP | https://soundcloud.com/pete36251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate stubb Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I always thought Rick was a Mini kinda guy. Moe --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Linguini Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I never knew 'pad' was in Wakeman's vocabulary. D-10; M50; SP4-7; SP6 I'm a fairly accomplished hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonysounds Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 He was a Moog guy. Not an ARP guy. and not a Pad guy. Thanks for playing Korg! Hitting "Play" does NOT constitute live performance. -Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Someone needed to watch this video, especially his comment starting at 0:15. [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Someone needed to watch this video, especially his comment starting at 0:15. yessir, RW debunks that myth in less than 30 seconds, and does it in a funny way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonysounds Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I've watched it....but damn if I can understand what that exchange was. Is Rick saying he WAS an ARP guy??? Hitting "Play" does NOT constitute live performance. -Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 He says he never used one live because he needed it to be in the same key as everyone else was playing. dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucktunes Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 He says he never used one live because he needed it to be in the same key as everyone else was playing. Unlike the Minimoog's octave switches for each oscillator, the Odyssey only had (has?) sliders for "coarse" and "fine" tuning. You can't just flip one oscillator up an octave or two and flip it back down on the fly. At least not with any accuracy, which I assume prompted Rick's comment. ><> Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I've watched it....but damn if I can understand what that exchange was. Is Rick saying he WAS an ARP guy??? he said he liked the sound but had nothing else nice to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 He says he never used one live because he needed it to be in the same key as everyone else was playing. dB Fagan would agree. See from 1:13 [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 He says he never used one live because he needed it to be in the same key as everyone else was playing. dB Fagan would agree. See from 1:13 [video:youtube] fixed the link for you. this is hilarious about what he did to his Odyssey. [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogholic Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Unlike the Minimoog's octave switches for each oscillator, the Odyssey only had (has?) sliders for "coarse" and "fine" tuning. You can't just flip one oscillator up an octave or two and flip it back down on the fly. At least not with any accuracy, which I assume prompted Rick's comment. Well...you can flip BOTH of its oscillators +- 2 octaves with a switch http://iandimusic.com/weeklynoise/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/ArpOdyssey6-e1276658661818.jpg It´s the big white switch on the left above the vol pot All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWkeys Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 As someone mentioned in the comments below the video, he might be mistaken about what synth he was using. I read about this 20 years ago, and the synth in question was the ARP Soloist, the precursor to the Pro-Soloist, which apparently was a dog of a synthesizer. I own a white-face Odyssey and it has very stable oscillators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillearning Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Agreed. I had both a MiniMoog and a whiteface back in the day. I liked the Mini better, but it was far too unstable to gig. The ARP stayed in tune. I would like to apologize to anyone I have not yet offended. Please be patient and I will get to you shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkost2002 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 To the OP's point: One of the most laughably tragic instances of unresearched copy "I have constantly tried to deliver only products which withstand the closest scrutiny � products which prove themselves superior in every respect.� Robert Bosch, 1919 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucktunes Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Unlike the Minimoog's octave switches for each oscillator, the Odyssey only had (has?) sliders for "coarse" and "fine" tuning. You can't just flip one oscillator up an octave or two and flip it back down on the fly. At least not with any accuracy, which I assume prompted Rick's comment. Well...you can flip BOTH of its oscillators +- 2 octaves with a switch http://iandimusic.com/weeklynoise/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/ArpOdyssey6-e1276658661818.jpg It´s the big white switch on the left above the vol pot Yes, I'm well aware of that. My first synth was a white faced Oddy like this one. However, I'll say it again...You can't just flip ONE oscillator (Not both) up an octave or two and flip it back down on the fly, as you could do so easily with a Minimoog. BTW, that's not a volume pot - That's the pitch bender. ><> Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucktunes Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Agreed. I had both a MiniMoog and a whiteface back in the day. I liked the Mini better, but it was far too unstable to gig. The ARP stayed in tune. I'll vouch that the Oddy stayed in tune much better than the Mini. In my first band I worked with another keyboardist who had a Minimoog. He spent much more time tuning it than I spent with my Oddy - Unless I wanted to tune one of the oscillators up an octave. ><> Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 In the NAMM presentation about the Korg Odyssey, they talked about how the original design did address the tuning stability issue, so it should have been more stable than the Mini. I think the issue being raised in the Wakeman conversation is that the Odyssey didn't have a front panel tuning control. I think to tune it, you'd have to independently adjust each oscillator. But yes, once you were up and running at a gig, you presumably wouldn't have to adjust that through the night as you'd be more likely to have to do with a Mini. Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I had a very early Minimoog and the boot time was 20-30 minutes (time for tuning to stabilize coming out of a cold van in Minnesota). Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I had an early MiniMoog and it would not stay in tune on a gig. It wasn't too bad in a room where the temperate was stable. Like ALL early analogs, it was sensitive to temperature change. After trying for months to make use of the Mini Moog on gigs, I gave up on taking it out of my music room. The Arp stayed in tune much better. I also found that you could do more with the Arp Odyssey than with the Mini Moog because it had more controls. However, the Mini Moog had a fatter sound. I bought a 2nd Mini Moog some years later and that synth was much more stable than the first one. As you can see by the PIC in my Profile, I still have my Arp Odyssey and it still works fine. Oh yeah, it doesn't drift all that much after it warms up. Cheers Mike T. Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real MC Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 The early Minimoogs can be made stable. I made some modifications to my RAM Minimoog (none that affect the sonority) and it stays in tune the entire four hour gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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