Justin Havu Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Got this guy earlier today, given to me as an early Christmas gift. It sounds awesome, but I think the audio section may need to be recapped (Only the left side works, and the overall output, including the headphone out, is really low.) Oh, joy. I got the service manual, and went over to the Roland Clan forum too, and got a list of the capacitors I need. Now it's just a matter of finding out where I can get them on the cheap. I'd prefer to stay away from RadioShack, because not only are they overpriced on a LOT of their inventory, but they don't seem to stock as much in the way of DIY electronic components as they used to, at least not the store near my house. That being said, I can't wait to get this board working properly again! Hardware Yamaha MODX7, DX7, PSR-530, MX61/Korg TR-Rack, 01/W Pro X, Trinity Pro X, Karma/Ensoniq ESQ-1 Behringer DeepMind12, Model D, Odyssey, 2600/Arturia Keylab MKII 61 Software Studio One/V Collection 9/Korg Collection 4/Cherry Audio/UVI SonicPass/EW Composer Cloud/Omnisphere, Stylus RMX, Trilian/IK Total Studio 3.5 MAX/Roland Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Not sure why a pic was needed at all (other than to have us cast aspersions at your choice of stand, or the sewing machine sustain pedal... ), but this works just as well: http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/images/roland_xp50.jpg Congrats on the new old board. I still have multiple Roland JV/XV series rack units because I still love me some of those sounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I own the XP-80 & JV-2080 which are in the same family. I believe the XP-50 is more similar to the JV-1080. If you would enjoy having a boatload of Roland PCM sounds at your finger tips, you really can't go wrong with these. All these boards are expandable with the SR-JV80 expansion cards. Here are all the boards, http://www.planet-groove.com/roland/expansion.html I've never done a repair like the one you're describing, hopefully a few of the other guys are able to chime in on that, I'd like to know as well. Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjwilcox Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 How's this: Justin's XP50 by wjw0608, on Flickr www.wjwcreative.com www.linkedin.com/in/wjwilcox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Havu Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Not sure why a pic was needed at all (other than to have us cast aspersions at your choice of stand, or the sewing machine sustain pedal... ) Congrats on the new old board. I still have multiple Roland JV/XV series rack units because I still love me some of those sounds... My profound apologies on the choice of stand/pedals. The stand is actually pretty solid. Thankfully I haven't had anything go horribly wrong with it yet, but I don't plan on resting anything heavier than 30 or 40 lbs on it. Also, both of my good sustain pedals are at my church, I just had the Yamaha one lying around. Hardware Yamaha MODX7, DX7, PSR-530, MX61/Korg TR-Rack, 01/W Pro X, Trinity Pro X, Karma/Ensoniq ESQ-1 Behringer DeepMind12, Model D, Odyssey, 2600/Arturia Keylab MKII 61 Software Studio One/V Collection 9/Korg Collection 4/Cherry Audio/UVI SonicPass/EW Composer Cloud/Omnisphere, Stylus RMX, Trilian/IK Total Studio 3.5 MAX/Roland Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I still own one. I always found the owner's manual and general way of working to be confounding, and that generally the board is a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none for sounds. But there are some really good sounds, and it's useful for general-purpose gigging. Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 My profound apologies on the choice of stand/pedals. I dunno if a simple apology is enough... we may have to get you to buy a round for the forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Havu Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 My profound apologies on the choice of stand/pedals. I dunno if a simple apology is enough... we may have to get you to buy a round for the forum... It could be worse... Could be a single-braced X stand, or the Ultimate V-Stand! Hardware Yamaha MODX7, DX7, PSR-530, MX61/Korg TR-Rack, 01/W Pro X, Trinity Pro X, Karma/Ensoniq ESQ-1 Behringer DeepMind12, Model D, Odyssey, 2600/Arturia Keylab MKII 61 Software Studio One/V Collection 9/Korg Collection 4/Cherry Audio/UVI SonicPass/EW Composer Cloud/Omnisphere, Stylus RMX, Trilian/IK Total Studio 3.5 MAX/Roland Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEMcCut Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Just a thought about the volume, try pushing the second and third sliders beside the volume slider to the top position. Those can be set to control volume as well if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Havu Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 I tried that. It's different for every patch/performance. The first thing I did was reset the factory settings. Apparently a number of people over on the Roland Clan forums are having output issues too. Hardware Yamaha MODX7, DX7, PSR-530, MX61/Korg TR-Rack, 01/W Pro X, Trinity Pro X, Karma/Ensoniq ESQ-1 Behringer DeepMind12, Model D, Odyssey, 2600/Arturia Keylab MKII 61 Software Studio One/V Collection 9/Korg Collection 4/Cherry Audio/UVI SonicPass/EW Composer Cloud/Omnisphere, Stylus RMX, Trilian/IK Total Studio 3.5 MAX/Roland Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Wright Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I dunno if a simple apology is enough... we may have to get you to buy a round for the forum... http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/c875c3df-9227-4040-8483-679ef496052e/86e135fc-b81b-47e2-8793-8f0765b824aa_560_420.jpg YooHoo! "I cried when I wrote this song Sue me if I play too long" Walter Becker Donald Fagan 1977 Deacon Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyMoe Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I still have my XP-80. Did a lot of gigs with that board in the day! Montage 7, Mojo 61, PC-3, XK-3c Pro, Kronos 88, Hammond SK-1, Motif XF- 7, Hammond SK-2, Roland FR-1, FR-18, Hammond B3 - Blond, Hammond BV -Cherry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botanicus Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I took my XP-80 out for a spin not long ago before testing the FA. IMHO the expansion board sounds for the XP series are better than the non-SuperNatural sounds in the FA, which are largely the stock sounds in the XP80! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Havu Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 I still own one. I always found the owner's manual and general way of working to be confounding Which begs the question: How many multilingual experts would it take to fully decipher a Roland owner's manual? Hardware Yamaha MODX7, DX7, PSR-530, MX61/Korg TR-Rack, 01/W Pro X, Trinity Pro X, Karma/Ensoniq ESQ-1 Behringer DeepMind12, Model D, Odyssey, 2600/Arturia Keylab MKII 61 Software Studio One/V Collection 9/Korg Collection 4/Cherry Audio/UVI SonicPass/EW Composer Cloud/Omnisphere, Stylus RMX, Trilian/IK Total Studio 3.5 MAX/Roland Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Now it's just a matter of finding out where I can get them on the cheap. I'd prefer to stay away from RadioShack, because not only are they overpriced on a LOT of their inventory, but they don't seem to stock as much in the way of Digikey.com Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Burgess Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 When I had mine... Wow, way back in '97... I had an issue where the outputs were dead. I'd plugged it into a Technics digital piano at a rehearsal. The tech said it gets its ground from the jack outs. A ground path had been fried, apparently by both instruments being ungrounded on two, 2 pronged plugs. Loved the machine, though. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMatt Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I still own one. I always found the owner's manual and general way of working to be confounding, and that generally the board is a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none for sounds. But there are some really good sounds, and it's useful for general-purpose gigging. i've got an XP 80 (although I'll probably get rid of it, never use it any more). Decent sounds, but it's like they go out of their way to make the manual and general way of using it complex and ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMatt Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I still own one. I always found the owner's manual and general way of working to be confounding Which begs the question: How many multilingual experts would it take to fully decipher a Roland owner's manual? a friend of mine bought this thing from roland, and the manual was based on a prototype I guess, so aside from the usual terribly written / -translated / -formatted / -organized problems that plague roland manuals, it was talking about knobs and buttons that weren't even there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Havu Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 Just curious, has anyone bought anything from mouser.com? I found them on a bit of a google adventure, and they seem to have the right capacitors I need for the repair, but it'd be helpful to get someone else's feedback before I dive in. Hardware Yamaha MODX7, DX7, PSR-530, MX61/Korg TR-Rack, 01/W Pro X, Trinity Pro X, Karma/Ensoniq ESQ-1 Behringer DeepMind12, Model D, Odyssey, 2600/Arturia Keylab MKII 61 Software Studio One/V Collection 9/Korg Collection 4/Cherry Audio/UVI SonicPass/EW Composer Cloud/Omnisphere, Stylus RMX, Trilian/IK Total Studio 3.5 MAX/Roland Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Happy birthday, Justin! "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Havu Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 Happy birthday, Justin! Thanks! Hardware Yamaha MODX7, DX7, PSR-530, MX61/Korg TR-Rack, 01/W Pro X, Trinity Pro X, Karma/Ensoniq ESQ-1 Behringer DeepMind12, Model D, Odyssey, 2600/Arturia Keylab MKII 61 Software Studio One/V Collection 9/Korg Collection 4/Cherry Audio/UVI SonicPass/EW Composer Cloud/Omnisphere, Stylus RMX, Trilian/IK Total Studio 3.5 MAX/Roland Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoodyBluesKeys Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 HB, Justin. Mouser is a long time electronic distributor - I've ordered from them, no problems. What is special about them is that they do handle small orders, many distributors deal wholesale only in large quantities. Howard Grand|Hamm SK1-73|Kurz PC2|PC2X|PC3|PC3X|PC361; QSC K10's HP DAW|Epi Les Paul & LP 5-str bass|iPad mini2 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Happy birthday Justin. Enjoy your newly acquired KB especially once it's restored to perfect working order. PD "The greatest thing you'll ever learn, is just to love and be loved in return."--E. Ahbez "Nature Boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana. Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Not sure why a pic was needed at all (other than to have us cast aspersions at your choice of stand, or the sewing machine sustain pedal... Never look a gift horse in the mouth, Sven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Totally non-constructive remark.... I had an XP-50 for a while. I liked it as a synth/workstation, but it had a couple of things that I found unbearable: The impossibly deep menu digging necessary to program it, and the unplayable keybed. I got the XP-80 as soon as I could. I ended up giving the 50 to my then-girlfriend, knowing that - she wasn't going to program it anyway, and, - she was playing it exclusively from a wind controller (I programmed about 25 sounds for her, designed for this specific use). However, free is free, so enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I had the 50, and later the XP80. Really nice, synth action keybed. Programming is not bad once you got used to the menu. There are also third party programs for programming. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Havu Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Ordered the replacement caps for the audio portion of the main board. Should be here sometime this week, so we'll see what happens. I'll try and post some pics too... Hardware Yamaha MODX7, DX7, PSR-530, MX61/Korg TR-Rack, 01/W Pro X, Trinity Pro X, Karma/Ensoniq ESQ-1 Behringer DeepMind12, Model D, Odyssey, 2600/Arturia Keylab MKII 61 Software Studio One/V Collection 9/Korg Collection 4/Cherry Audio/UVI SonicPass/EW Composer Cloud/Omnisphere, Stylus RMX, Trilian/IK Total Studio 3.5 MAX/Roland Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm not sure something as simple as replacing caps alone will solve your problems, but I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Since you already have a D-110 and JV-80 you'll be on familiar ground getting around on the thing. OS is somewhere in between them - much easier than on the D-110, but not as easy as on a JV-80. On the XP-50 the shift key is your friend Maybe the most important button on the front panel. I went through that whole family back in the 1990s and have kept the XP-80 - probably forever. With expansion boards it does things in P&W that I just can't replicate with anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Havu Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 According to the research that I've done over the interwebs, mainly at Roland Clan, the caps usually fail after five years, so those will be the first thing I'll check/replace. There are eight of them in the audio section, but C931 and C932 may be the main culprits. Those will get replaced first, then I'll replace the others if needed. It's really trial and error. I'm just hoping I don't have to hunt down a new mainboard, as they seem to be hard to come across. I've already checked over at Syntaur, and the board is no longer available. Yeah, there are definitely some presets on this board that I'll be using for Sunday AM services, mainly A011 "West Coast," but there are also several great-sounding pads in the A bank that I'll be using. Hardware Yamaha MODX7, DX7, PSR-530, MX61/Korg TR-Rack, 01/W Pro X, Trinity Pro X, Karma/Ensoniq ESQ-1 Behringer DeepMind12, Model D, Odyssey, 2600/Arturia Keylab MKII 61 Software Studio One/V Collection 9/Korg Collection 4/Cherry Audio/UVI SonicPass/EW Composer Cloud/Omnisphere, Stylus RMX, Trilian/IK Total Studio 3.5 MAX/Roland Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outkaster Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Had one from 1997 till about 2001 I think,did a ton of gigs on it then the XP 60 came out. "Danny, ci manchi a tutti. La E-Street Band non e' la stessa senza di te. Riposa in pace, fratello" noblevibes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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