bigstew812 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 im a fairly new guitarist and I was looking into looking for a new guitar. I really want to play jazz and blues but don't know what kind of guitar I should get. so if yall could help me it would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane hugo Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 what's your budget like? http://blip.fm/invite/WorkRelease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstew812 Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 500-1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricane hugo Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 u could grab an Epiphone Casino for about 6 bills. http://www.sheltonsguitars.com/images/2007/11-20-07/gibson/epiphone%20john%20lennon%20casino%20revolution%20nat/big/big%20epiphone%20casino%20lennon%20revolution%20nat%2011-20-07DSCN9401.jpg ..of course, that's just one example. In that price range, you'll have a lot of good options. http://blip.fm/invite/WorkRelease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strategery Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Yep, that's a nice guitar above for sure. I would second the notion for the type of music you're wanting to play. Randy "Just play!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Blues can be played on almost anything. Some bluesmen use a semi-hollow, some a fat hollow, and then some use a solid body. The same can pretty much be said for jazz, although many are of the mind that a fat, hollow body axe is a MUST. The hard part is, even with your budget, there's a LOT of choices out there that will require you to go around and try them all. But, THAT could also be seen as the FUN part! Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ETS2EBGH/ <--- here's another Epi...I think the 335 style will fit in with Jazz and Blues venues. I have a friend who has a Sheraton and they are very easy to play and sound great with humbuckers. Welcome aboard Bigstew! Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 yep, for $500-1000 you can get a great axe... the thing is you have so many options you need to find the one that fits your developing style. Since you're new to it you're probably drawn to buying new instead of a used guitar. There's several Epiphones... the Casino and Sheratons as above, the 335 Dot (their version of the Gibson ES 335), their version of the ES 339 (335 with a shrunken, Les Paul sized body), The Riviera (semi-hollow body usually with mini-humbucker or P90 pickups)... and a few more in the same general ballpark. You might find a Gibson Midtown on sale for that price somewhere online. Godin has some cool guitars geared towards jazz and blues, the 5th Avenue and Montreal. Then again, I like playing jazz on my Fender Jazzmaster (which, despite the name, nobody else except Nels Cline seems to like to do) or Fender Telecaster (Bill Frissell makes a case for this)... SOOOO... the world is your oyster, just go play everything in sight and pick what you like best. There's no rules about which guitar you have to play for what music (other than what you feel silly holding). I'm jealous of your search, have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 There's also some cool Gibson Les Paul Studio 50s and 60s and 70s tribute models these days, which were originally designed for jazz back in the day and certainly are a blues staple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Does anyone know of a semi hollow, in the body style of a classic Gibson/Gretch single or double cutaway that has a =or< 10" radius neck, u contour and 1.75 nut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I also like those Godins, but most of their semihollow guitars with the cleaner, dare I say jazz-voiced pickups are priced over $1K. He'd have to go used. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But they're hellaciously good- the guitarist in the jazz combo at the last Easter brunch I went to sounded incredibly clear and articulate. And of course, Gods are very well made. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I also like those Godins, but most of their semihollow guitars with the cleaner, dare I say jazz-voiced pickups are priced over $1K. He'd have to go used. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But they're hellaciously good- the guitarist in the jazz combo at the last Easter brunch I went to sounded incredibly clear and articulate. And of course, Gods are very well made. I like anything by any of their brands that I've ever come across, honestly. I could swear I've seen the 5th Ave. with 2 humbuckers for around $899 online... but I might be mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Does anyone know of a semi hollow, in the body style of a classic Gibson/Gretch single or double cutaway that has a =or< 10" radius neck, u contour and 1.75 nut? not sure of all the specs but check out the older Korean-made Hamer Echotone, which was a 335 body with a Fender scale-length neck but a neck radius closer to Gibson... some people I know rave about that specific model. I have the later Chinese version which I paid $200 for and holds up well against the Gibson, considering... it's Gibson scale-length. There's a couple of other USA Hamer semi-hollows that always looked inviting... the Newport and the Monaco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I also like those Godins, but most of their semihollow guitars with the cleaner, dare I say jazz-voiced pickups are priced over $1K. He'd have to go used. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But they're hellaciously good- the guitarist in the jazz combo at the last Easter brunch I went to sounded incredibly clear and articulate. And of course, Gods are very well made. I like anything by any of their brands that I've ever come across, honestly. I could swear I've seen the 5th Ave. with 2 humbuckers for around $899 online... but I might be mistaken. It's certainly possible- I scored a $1300 Fret-King Supra 60HB for just around $680 earlier (including import costs) this year; a limited time offer. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 BigStew, do you have a particular tone in mind? It goes without saying that ther is jazz & blues, and then there is jazz & blues. Is ther an artist or 12 who sounds something like you want to sound? It took me a while to figure out that no matter what I played it through, my Telecaster was never gonna sound like Duane Allman's Les Paul, Yeah, I was slow back in the day, but I thought one electric guitar was pretty much the same as another. In case you didn't know it, that ain't even remotely true, sometimes even among guitars of the same make and model. If you know what kind of sound you want to make, it'll make it easier to find the instrument that will let you do it. Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I like the Fret-King firebird-type thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 BigStew, do you have a particular tone in mind? It goes without saying that ther is jazz & blues, and then there is jazz & blues. Is ther an artist or 12 who sounds something like you want to sound? It took me a while to figure out that no matter what I played it through, my Telecaster was never gonna sound like Duane Allman's Les Paul, Yeah, I was slow back in the day, but I thought one electric guitar was pretty much the same as another. In case you didn't know it, that ain't even remotely true, sometimes even among guitars of the same make and model. If you know what kind of sound you want to make, it'll make it easier to find the instrument that will let you do it. yeah... but Jimmy Page's Les Paul was often a Telecaster. These days with all of the preamp pedals and modelers and stuff you can pretty much make anything sound close enough... I think physical comfort is the priority, then within reason you can mess with pickups and other stuff. But you're right, having sounds in mind that you're going for comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 by the way, The Voodoo Labs Giggity can make a Tele sound like a Les Paul... [video:youtube] [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertbluesman Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ETS2EBGH/ <--- here's another Epi...I think the 335 style will fit in with Jazz and Blues venues. I have a friend who has a Sheraton and they are very easy to play and sound great with humbuckers. Sweeeeet..... dbm If it sounds good, it is good !! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=143231&content=music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 +++ DBM, if I wasn't so guitar rich I would buy one myself right freaken now...I mean for $599 you got yourself one hell of a piece of beauty. The bindings alone should grab ya! Robert Conti is using the Epiphone classic Alnico humbucker (same as the neck pickup) on his $1,600 jazz guitars... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Psmith Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ETS2EBGH/ <--- here's another Epi...I think the 335 style will fit in with Jazz and Blues venues. I have a friend who has a Sheraton and they are very easy to play and sound great with humbuckers. Welcome aboard Bigstew! FWIW, the Ebony DOT model uses the same woods and the same pups, for $200 less. I LOVE my Epi DOT, can't recommend it enough. Save the rest of that money for a HSC, and a killer amp, and you're set. "Monsters are real, and Ghosts are real too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win." Stephen King http://www.novparolo.com https://thewinstonpsmithproject.bandcamp.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ETS2EBGH/ <--- here's another Epi...I think the 335 style will fit in with Jazz and Blues venues. I have a friend who has a Sheraton and they are very easy to play and sound great with humbuckers. Welcome aboard Bigstew! FWIW, the Ebony DOT model uses the same woods and the same pups, for $200 less. I LOVE my Epi DOT, can't recommend it enough. Save the rest of that money for a HSC, and a killer amp, and you're set. Not knocking the Dot or any of the other Epi 335 copies...I think the general concept is good for jazz/blues. Figuring his $1,000 budget you can buy any of them and have enough left over for a Mustang III amp [pun intended]. For a beginning player, you will have a hard time finding better deals. My buddy with the Epi in my post changed the pups to 57 Gibson humbuckers with new pots and a Bigsby, which can be (or not) done at a later date. I think that the most important thing I'm seeing from this thread is the number of Epi 335 recommendations. I, like others know you can play blues and jazz just as well on a Dot, LP, Strat, Tele, Jazzmaster, etc. It's "the magician not the wand" right Fred? (and just where has Fred been? will have to PM him and make sure he's still out there!). I just think the old 335 (regardless of model) is a good fit for Jazz and Blues. Maybe someday Bigstew will upgrade to the real thing! Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesape Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Don't rule out Hagstrom for hollow and semi-hollow in that price range. I've very impressed with what I've seen from them. I do think Godins are all but impossible to beat for the price, especially solid bodies, but people do occasionally upgrade the pups. I'll be doing that with at least one Freeway Classic soon. My buddy Dave sent me the Burstbuckers from his LP Std, and a Texas Special clone is on the way to replace the SC in it. Back on topic, who are your favorite artists? Never a DUH! moment! Well, almost never. OK, OK! Sometimes never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I don't think the topic is "favorite artists" but if I was looking for a jazz/blues guitar and the recommendations were hovering around a 335, I would look at a guy like Larry Carlton on Youtube... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Search used stuff. Probably will be a little over budget but I prefer Heritage over Gibson or Epi all day. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 PS. Looks like H-535s are holding their value. $1650 seems to be the low end of the used market. H-555s about a $1000 more. So I guess Heritage is out. Still hand crafted in Kalamazoo by the old Gibson crew. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 PPS. Reverend does some cool stuff. Personally I'm a Buckshot guy but they do a lot of neat stuff that should be in you budget. For less than a Grand. I would look hard at Reverend guitars. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Does anyone know of a semi hollow, in the body style of a classic Gibson/Gretch single or double cutaway that has a =or< 10" radius neck, u contour and 1.75 nut? not sure of all the specs but check out the older Korean-made Hamer Echotone, which was a 335 body with a Fender scale-length neck but a neck radius closer to Gibson... some people I know rave about that specific model. I have the later Chinese version which I paid $200 for and holds up well against the Gibson, considering... it's Gibson scale-length. There's a couple of other USA Hamer semi-hollows that always looked inviting... the Newport and the Monaco. That's kind of hard to find, but I WILL look. In other words, does anyone know of a semi hollow jazz axe that plays like a fender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Boggs could probably do a Camelback- which is semihollow- with some jazz-voiced pickups for just over $1K. And inspired by the conversation above, I went looking at the Godins 5th Avenues again: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/5AvCWK2CNB?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=none&device=t&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CLPem4v_yLYCFQGonQodmGsAgA http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/5AvKPNAT?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=none&device=t&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CJ_Sudn_yLYCFRRwnAodkhwAXg http://www.guitarcenter.com/Godin-5th-Avenue-Kingpin-Archtop-Hollowbody-Electric-Guitar-With-P-90-Pickup-105181184-i1433417.gc?source=4WWRWXGP&kpid=105181184 If you don't like the P90s, swap out the pickups. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Does anyone know of a semi hollow, in the body style of a classic Gibson/Gretch single or double cutaway that has a =or< 10" radius neck, u contour and 1.75 nut? That's kind of hard to find, but I WILL look. In other words, does anyone know of a semi hollow jazz axe that plays like a fender? <---- I think you will like this idea as I couldn't get any closer to what you already like Terrell! especially that U neck... Ps. a 72 thin line semi hollow body Tele with a couple of humbuckers is also and idea Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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