Dannyalcatraz Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 A friend of mine is interested in getting a guitar for her grandson's graduation gift and asked for my help. She has yet to ascertain his overall musical preferences, whether to buy acoustic or electric, nor has she set budget for the gift. We have lots of time. Still, I want to get ahead of the curve. I suspect her budget will be between $500-1000. I know my own personal preferences, but I want to get input beyond my perceptual blinders. He has been playing a beater starter guitar for some time now, and it's nearly dead. She wants him to have a quality guitar to replace it. So, what guitars in the $500-1000 price range- acoustic or electric- would you recommend? Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Kind of a broad question mon, I`d say consult the buying guide until a better picture of the grandson`s preferences emerges. Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share Posted July 4, 2012 I know it's broad- I'm casting a broad net. Like I said, I want to explore the area beyond my blinders. I mean, I KNOW what I'd recommend over that price range for a variety of playstyles, but I can't really ID my preconceptions and blind spots. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Well your intention is good. But it`s kind of like asking for a description of life, the universe and everything-aside from what you already know about it, which is...? I think you can see the difficulty Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p90jr Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 American Standard Stratocaster, the swiss army knife of electric guitars... no matter what style he plays that will fill the bill, and he can always easily pop in pickups to go in whichever direction from there. Just go and play a batch and pick out the best one for her. If it's an acoustic... I dunno... all of the bottom of the line Martins and Taylors and Guilds that I've come across are cool. I think he'd have to be involved in that selection since there's distinctive feels and tones to each brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Wow! All I got for graduation was the "help wanted" and "apartments for rent" sections of the want ads and a hearty handshake!Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_C Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Need more info. How old is the kid? Musical prefs? Favorite players? That sort of stuff. If you play cool, you are cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Agent Grandma is on a secret mission to ascertain his playstyle and preerr artists. The kid is in his late teens, has a pretty level head, is responsible, gets good grades, loves baseball...pretty much a Norman Rockwell/Mayberry RFD all-American great kid. The kind of kid every parent wants their kid to be...or at least, be buddies with. I realize the question is broad and seemingly premature, but it's like this: I know what guitars I'd recommend for a broad variety of genres...but I know I have my blind spots & prejudices. I'm trying to find the guitars I WOULDN'T recommend despite their being of high quality because of my personal preferences. Like Fender Strats. I've never recommended one, don't like 'em. But in this case, I should. Ideally, I'd tell her to take him and her checkbook to a local guitar store, or send Carvin or one of my favorite luthiers a check on his behalf so he could get something he'd be guaranteed to like, but that's not how this family works. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 The kid is in his late teens, has a pretty level head, is responsible, gets good grades, loves baseball...pretty much a Norman Rockwell/Mayberry RFD all-American great kid. The kind of kid every parent wants their kid to be...or at least, be buddies with. Find him a GOOD used Tele or Strat (or Tele- or Strat-style axe by another maker); if the latter, maybe a Strat with a humbucker at the bridge. And one of the Line 6 GuitarPort/TonePort/POD products with online subscription to associated Line 6 lessons and jam tracks... Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryz Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Put a $500 gift certificate in the card and after he opens it, take him on a buying expidetion to GC...have him oogle and play some wall hangers and see what he gravitates to...knowing you have another $500 in your pocket that he doesn't know about will give you some leeway on acoustics and/or an amp for the electric...since he's been playing that beater for quite some time it shows he has the interest that's needed...he will need the best guitar that he can play easily...MIM Strat or Tele, Epi 335, LP or SG...his favorite color...maybe a Taylor mini for an acoustic...all in the $500+/- price range... The $500 kicker in the back pocket could take him to a higher quality level in the final decison mode...ease of playing and something he has probably already had his eyes on is the direction I'd think about... Take care, Larryz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Update: Secret Agent Grandma has reported to me that the Grad-To-Be plays & listens to Big Band, Christian Rock, and a mix of other stuff besides. So I'm thinking an acoustic, a classic semihollow or a Tele/Strat of some kind would be in order. And again, I would LOVE to have her take the kid to the music store, but they usually don't do that kind of thing. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 OK, my personal take on the situation at this point: On the acoustic front- Seagull is my go-to brand for affordable quality acoustics. I have been told there are good Taylors to be had in that price range as well (the 210?). On the semihollow front- Ibanez Artcores, Gretsch and Reverend all deliver good value in this price range. I've been told Epiphone's Casino, Dot, and 355 are worth a look. On the higher end, I know Jon Kammerer offers a Strat-shaped semihollow as one of his standard designs for $995- I have one, and it kicks ass, but that would leave no budget (at this point) for an amp and accessories. On the Strat/Tele front- I know MIA is the gold standard, and MIMs are the next best in Fender's line. Some have told me one of the HSS Strats would be the way to go. I know jack all about Teles. What are good options in the $500-1000 range? Quality non-Fender Strats, SuperStrats and Teles in this price range are also acceptable! Tell me about them. And of course, other suggestions are also welcome. Also, AFAIK, he does not have an amp. I've kept that in mind if she decides to go electric instead of acoustic, and I know of some nice low-wattage but quality tube amps to suggest in the sub-$300 range. (He will be living in close quarters, after all...) (BTW, thanks, y'all!) Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Also, AFAIK, he does not have an amp. ______ > breaks screeching, tires squealing < Total game-changer... If he doesn't have an amp, he needs one- or a better guitar AND a halfway-decent amp- or else he needs an acoustic guitar. Or- and I think this is a really good way to go here- a good digital-modeler (one of the Line 6 modeler/interface devices that will work with a subscription to Line 6's online lessons and jam-tracks) and some good, full-sized, closed-back headphones, and a good set-up on his existing guitar, and maybe ALSO a better guitar. The latter should be USED, not new, so as to get the most for the money. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Yeah, going acoustic will mean a completely different looking budget than going electric, and I'm prepared for that discussion. I think his current guitar is destined for the scrapyard after graduation. While I personally don't have a problem with used gear, but I don't see Secret Agent Grandma going for that. She likes "new." Just as a frex, I put together a sample electric setup based on a $1000 budget. Godin HSS "Strat" for $500 + 6w VHT amp for $380 (not too big for dorm/apartment living) + DigiTech multiFX pedal $120 _____________ $1000 OTOH, if she does what I did- going with a pair of headphones & a portable modeler (Korg Pandora, Line6 POD or the like)- she could spend a bit less or afford a better guitar...like one of these: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AF105NT/ http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/G100CEN/ http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/G5122DCWS Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Yeah, going acoustic will mean a completely different looking budget than going electric, and I'm prepared for that discussion. I think his current guitar is destined for the scrapyard after graduation. While I personally don't have a problem with used gear, but I don't see Secret Agent Grandma going for that. She likes "new." Just as a frex, I put together a sample electric setup based on a $1000 budget. Godin HSS "Strat" for $500 + 6w VHT amp for $380 (not too big for dorm/apartment living) + DigiTech multiFX pedal $120 _____________ $1000 OTOH, if she does what I did- going with a pair of headphones & a portable modeler (Korg Pandora, Line6 POD or the like)- she could spend a bit less or afford a better guitar...like one of these: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AF105NT/ http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/G100CEN/ http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/G5122DCWS Godins are nice! Talk to WPSmith, Scott Fraser, pinkjimiphoton, ToneZappa- apologies to anyone I missed- about Boss, Line 6/POD, or other multi-effects that sound and feel good connected to a tube-amp, INSTEAD OF a DigiTech; I like my DigiTech for going direct to a PA and monitors or headphones, but it positively neuters and ruins the sound of a good tube-amp, whether plugged into the input or the effects-loop; and a tube-amp actually compromises the frequency-range and EQ-curve of the DigiTech, as well. There have GOT to be more organic, stompbox-sounding mfx for connecting to a tube-amp, and I suspect that some Boss and Line 6/POD mfx are probably good candidates. Or... perhaps a decent digital-modeling/mfx amp like a Line 6 might be an excellent candidate for him and his MO, really. (SpiderValve models are still too LOUD for thios mission statement, and kinda expensive.) Dorm room? Spent most of his time since getting his current guitar without an amp? Sounds like a tube amp, even a small, low-powered one, would be more of a pain in the @$$ for him (my 7 watt tube-amp is still a little too loud!), while a modeler/mfx and headphones (GOOD 'phones) would nearly always be convenient, especially if it were portable, battery-capable. Again, many of the Line 6 offerings are compatible with their online lessons and jam-tracks (maybe even some of their amps?), which I'm betting would likely be a huge hit with him. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 He sounds (according to you) like the kind of kid that would sincerely appreciate whatever the purchase winds up being. But one thing Grandma could do is announce her intention of buying him a new guitar, the amount of her budget, and go around with HIM as he shops for what it is he might like. This way, they're BOTH happy.Whitefang PS: Since she asked for YOUR advice, YOU could join them on the spree. I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_C Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Update: Secret Agent Grandma has reported to me that the Grad-To-Be plays & listens to Big Band, Christian Rock, and a mix of other stuff besides. Hey Danny, If he listens to big bands, I'm thinking that a semi-hollow archtop would be more appropriate. The Epi's are nice for the money as are the Ibanez. I think that single-coil p'ups would be too zingy for his musical tastes. He sounds like a humbucker kinda' guy. You can get a very good sounding solid-state amp for around $200 (Roland Cube is an outstanding value and the Peavey Vyper series provides good value as well). If he leans toward a solid body, then the PRS SE series would give him a taste of Gibson tone. Good Luck to him! If you play cool, you are cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Came up with a plan that will help narrow things down: she is going to talk to him about how I donated a guitar to a charity auction last year, and that she'd like to do likewise...but she'd like his help. I proposed this to her, and she's going to try this out the next time she sees him. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Update: Secret Agent Grandma has reported to me that the Grad-To-Be plays & listens to Big Band, Christian Rock, and a mix of other stuff besides. Hey Danny, If he listens to big bands, I'm thinking that a semi-hollow archtop would be more appropriate. The Epi's are nice for the money as are the Ibanez. I think that single-coil p'ups would be too zingy for his musical tastes. He sounds like a humbucker kinda' guy. You can get a very good sounding solid-state amp for around $200 (Roland Cube is an outstanding value and the Peavey Vyper series provides good value as well). If he leans toward a solid body, then the PRS SE series would give him a taste of Gibson tone. Good Luck to him! Good call. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I was thinking semi-hollow as well and as far as amps, 30w of Fender G-DEC is $199 new at MF. I have a compact amp called Dice, made for the Japan market. I think it`s similar. 22 watts, hooks up well with effects etc. The clean sound is better but here`s a vid with distortion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkIqT-o-zqs guy`s got the gain all the way up-gimme a break If you want to check out some strats/teles etc. by non-mainstream makers, there`s enough here to ruin your eyesight: http://www.guitarsite.com/database/Makers/ Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 I looked at the G-DEC years ago when shopping for an amp for myself, but didn't look at it too closely since I already had a bus load of pedals*- what is the consensus on them vs more commonly suggested Line6 Spyders? * Yes, I owned a bunch of pedals before I owned an amp. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I was thinking semi-hollow as well and as far as amps, 30w of Fender G-DEC is $199 new at MF. I have a compact amp called Dice, made for the Japan market. I think it`s similar. 22 watts, hooks up well with effects etc. The clean sound is better but here`s a vid with distortion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkIqT-o-zqs guy`s got the gain all the way up-gimme a break That Fender G-DEC looks like a VERY good fit here- particularly with its feature-set of bells and whistles. And Musician's Friend has one left in stock for a killer low price... Fender G-DEC 3 Thirty MSRP: $549.99 Your Savings: - $250.00 On Sale Today: - $100.00 Sale Price: $199.99 Free Shipping If you can find a Fender G-DEC 3 Thirty Blues- a "special edition" version- it might be an even better fit; not only are the cosmetic stylings nice, it has a bunch of jam-loops and tone-presets, some made with input from name blues and jazz musicians, that should be VERY much to your friend's Grandson's liking. Here's a Jazz Times review of the Fender G-DEC 3 Thirty Blues... Right out of the box, this thing is a blast. Rolling the encoder knob clockwise will begin your excursion through dozens of loop-and-tone combinations. The loops, some of which were recorded by Fender endorsers like guitarist Jim Campilongo and bassist Reggie Hamilton, range far and wide: Along with drum beats and MIDI metronome clicks, theres James Brown-style funk, Western Swing gallops, Chicago shuffles, slow blues and a lot more. Straight-ahead jazzers get theirs too, sort of: A jazz rhythm section offers driving swing, a Take Five groove, some lazy, drifting changes, a samba feel and other variations. They might not be Berklee-hip, and the piano could sound better, but they certainly get the job done. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Unfortunately, we can't jump only deals at the moment- she's in the middle of moving- but I noticed the same price for it at GC. I also noticed a 15w version with a 1x8 for just $99. How loud are these puppies? And how big? Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Also, while we're at it, how do the Vox Valvetronix & Carvin SX compare to the G-DECs & Spyders? Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caevan O’Shite Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Unfortunately, we can't jump only deals at the moment- she's in the middle of moving- but I noticed the same price for it at GC. I also noticed a 15w version with a 1x8 for just $99. How loud are these puppies? And how big? With a Solid State 30 (or 15) watts, I wouldn't expect a whole lot of 'with drums and bass etc.' capable loudness, but it might hang with a band-setting like, f'rinstance, your average 'church group', where the volume-levels are reigned-in under sensible control. (Just so you know, I'm biased and pessimistic about SS guitar amps, particularly low-watt SS guitar amps; so I may be underestimating it.) For practicing, learning, playing with jam-tracks and drum-loops, jamming with buddies in small settings, playing at low volumes or through headphones in a dorm room, that should be plenty enough; and he'd probably get a LOT out of all this amp's features. I think I would have LOVED one of those when I was in a similar enough time in my life with the guitar. I think that, with what you've told us about his tastes and requirements, one of these amps paired with a halfway-decent guitar would suit him VERY well; I don't think you could go wrong with one of them. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Psmith Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Sorry, I've been out of here for a bit, but I'm trying to catch up now. This thread had already gotten going, but that saves me from suggesting some Death Metal rig for a young guy into Christian Rock. I remember seeing the G-Dec's when they came out, and being pretty impressed, although it's more of a glorified practice amp than anything else - that will be the case with most of the low-budget Spyder amps, as well. I'm also with Caevan regarding the ability of a 30 watt SS amp to stand up to a garage trio, drums, bass & guitar, especially pushing an 8-inch speaker. It just falls short. IMHO, if you're looking at SS amps that he won't be trading up from as soon as he realizes he can't hear himself, I'm thinking 40-60 watts, with at least a 10-inch speaker. I always found Peavey to be decent workhorse amps, but I haven't checked into them for a while. Don't mess with the Peavey Vyper series, for now - most of the sounds, and amp models, were designed for extreme Metal sounds - they seem to be Peavey's answer to the Spyder series. I guess they felt they had to . . . This may seem like blasphemy, coming from me, but I wouldn't hit this young fellow with a big bank of effects options, or modeling, just yet, or a bunch of backing tracks built into his first real amp. The Big Three will do here, a decent OD sound, some kind of Mod fx, a nice, simple but workable Delay/Reverb - to fill out Jimi's Big Four, let him pick out a decent Wah pedal, and he's set. Makes it easier to hear what the guitar and amp actually sound like, together. Yes, I said it. I still love my Epi Dot, and I know other players who love their Epis, as well. With a decent amp, there are a lot of tonal possibilities in the Dots - while they won't really nail a sweet jazzbox tone, they can be pretty warm, and a little smoky, and you can add in some OD, for some Blues/Rock grit. Find one with a nice neck, and the only upgrade he's likely to need for quite a while is a pup swap. BTW, Dannyalcatraz, I was really sorry to hear about Boston, but we all have to make sacrifices to beat off the Zombie Whores . . . um, I meant Hordes . . . or something. "Monsters are real, and Ghosts are real too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win." Stephen King http://www.novparolo.com https://thewinstonpsmithproject.bandcamp.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russclan Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 I'd say if effects are a must, I don't think you can beat the Line 6 stuff for an all-in-one bang-for-buck package. But personally, I'd advise him to forgo the effects for now. My pick for the amp would be the Tech 21 Trademark 30. $319.00, analog, and tone that Line 6 can't compete with (imo), from Fender clean to Boogie saturation. Prob. can't do the extreme distorted death metal stuff, but the kid doesn't care about that, if I read correctly. Bit more $$$, much better amp, plenty loud (can go direct to PA if need be, as well). That leaves ~$700, which will easily get a decent entry level axe from just about all the biggie names. If it runs over a little, I'm sure GC will be willing to move a bit. They won't want to let you leave when they know you're there to spend money as opposed to just goof around (not that I've ever done that ). Last year I bought a Taylor 314CE from GC. I was gonna walk b/c the salesman told me Taylor had opted out of GC's $200 off promo. Thanked him for his time and headed toward the door. They somehow made it work...amazing, I tell ya. The guy must've really pulled some strings (pun intended) and called in some favors. Mhhmm. Anyway, the kid can pick up effects later on as his budget allows...maybe he can borrow some of yours from time to time in the interim, Danny? My ears are haunted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 7, 2012 Author Share Posted July 7, 2012 Hey, I'm a friendly guy! A bass-playing buddy of mine was coming up the levels of the pro game- opening for bigger and bigger bands, getting airplay- and I let him borrow my Washburn fretless A/E bass any time he wanted. So if he asks, yeah, I'd let him- he's a pretty trustworthy kid. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyalcatraz Posted July 7, 2012 Author Share Posted July 7, 2012 I still love my Epi Dot, and I know other players who love their Epis, as well. With a decent amp, there are a lot of tonal possibilities in the Dots - while they won't really nail a sweet jazzbox tone, they can be pretty warm, and a little smoky, and you can add in some OD, for some Blues/Rock grit. Find one with a nice neck, and the only upgrade he's likely to need for quite a while is a pup swap. Like I said, I've heard lots of good things about Epiphone's semihollows- Dots, Casinos, and Sheratons- but have never had my hands on one. I've heard similar praise of Ibanez Artcores, and HAVE played them and damn near bought one*. And since there were no Gibson ES-335 or 355s around, I had to compare them to Gretsches. Has anyone here tried both brands of semihollow goodness? * I went with a 3HB Dean TC Cadillac AND a Dean Special Select EVO instead...long story. Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: âNinety percent of everything is crapâ My FLMS- Murphy's Music in Irving, Tx http://murphysmusictx.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitefang Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Time to reel them in, Danny. Some of these guys are going on like Grandma's got ahold of The Donald's checkbook!Whitefang I started out with NOTHING...and I still have most of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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