Franknputer Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Come out of the bubble some time, Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [quote]I simply cannot remember a time when the level of hate was so high. I do believe the country will wake up and stop this "progressive" march towards the total destruction of our American values. [/quote]This is true. Every decade was/is different. Look at the early 50's compared to the late 60's. The socialist/pinko/liberal movement started in the US in the 1930's. Its been about 75 years, I would hope that SMART Americans would have learned by now that utopia does not exist, but if it could, AMERICA is it. The liberals just need to QUIT bitchin' and actually come up with an idea BESIDES raising taxes. :freak: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [quote] Come out of the bubble some time, Mark. [/quote]LOL sorry mark, it was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by GZsound: [b]I simply cannot remember a time when the level of hate was so high. I do believe the country will wake up and stop this "progressive" march towards the total destruction of our American values.[/b][/quote]King George was a conservative; he wanted those in power (British aristocracy) to maintain power. Jefferson was a liberal; he wanted to redistribute the power so that those who were not presently empowered (colonists) would be able to have more control over their affairs. Neither conservatism nor liberalism is inherently bad. It's the application that makes all the difference. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [quote]Neither conservatism nor liberalism is inherently bad. It's the application that makes all the difference. [/quote]I'll agree to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philter Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 How can you call Ahnold a backlash against liberals? Have you noticed that he's more socially progressive than a lot of Democrats? The Republicans let him run for three reasons- 1. He promised not to raise taxes, 2. He wasn't Gray Davis, and 3. They couldn't stop him if they wanted to. But the fact is that... Schwarzenegger approves of gun control Schwarzenegger is pro-choice Schwarzenegger supports gay rights all touchstone progressive social issues. I would be able to support him myself if he was committed to a balanced budget. But that's become the cause of the Democratic party, while the Republicans are happy to run a credit-card economy. Personally I feel that the hate is coming from a fundamentalist president on a religious crusade. Listen to conservative radio in the morning; it's practically dripping with hate. "AIDS kills fags dead, God hates fags, My god is stronger than his God..." All these are right-wing quotes, and they are part of a long tradition of social conservative evils extending back to Jim Crow laws, prohibition, and sex discrimination. If conservatives had been successful at every point in history, women would live to raise children and care for the home without voting rights, blacks would still be slaves, and an illiterate and an impoverished lower class would toil for peanuts under the brutal fist of WASP tycoons. ---------------------------- Phil Mann http://www.wideblacksky.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alon Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [img]http://www.brokennewz.com/images/ultimatesurrender.jpg[/img] http://www.fuckfrance.com . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotown Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [quote]The Republicans let him run for three reasons- 1. He promised not to raise taxes, 2. He wasn't Gray Davis, and 3. They couldn't stop him if they wanted to.[/quote]They actually backed him for one simple reason: That being because they felt that he could win. His politics were irrelevant. Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philter Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 One more thing: blaming France for the quagmire we're in is ridiculous. We dug our own hole, in spite of being warned against doing so by the rest of the world. If we had listened to France, we'd have $160,000,000,000 more to help lower our national debt. We could even spend it to actually find Bin Laden, which seems to be a task beyond the abilities of our current leadership. Instead, we face a guerilla war, a bombed-out nation to reconstruct with our own tax money, and a wave of anti-American sentiment that spans the globe in our hour of need. Meanwhile, we've failed to keep our eye on the real danger, which has always been terrorism and has never been Iraq's fictional WOMD. Bush has managed to simultaneously isolate America, allow Al Qaeda to escape, and run our economy to the ground. The job market is the worst it's been since the Great Depression. ---------------------------- Phil Mann http://www.wideblacksky.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [quote] One more thing: blaming France for the quagmire we're in is ridiculous [/quote]quagmire..................OH, your talking about that war that the democrats got us into in the early 60's. Your entire post is SO full of shit, my monitor stinks. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philter Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Funny comeback! Too bad we're not pushing eachother around on the playground, where that comment would fit right in. By the way, you didn't say anything! Want to try again? ---------------------------- Phil Mann http://www.wideblacksky.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Mrs. Smith.............he is pickin' on me. :freak: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotown Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 WARNING --- WARNING---- Please see where this is going. Don't waste your time here. ABORT THREAD ABORT THREAD ABORT THREAD Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philter Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 By the way, we're talking about Iraq, in case you fell asleep for the last 30 years. ---------------------------- Phil Mann http://www.wideblacksky.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philter Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Yeah, I said my piece, time to take a walk. These threads usually end up like this... it's more fun if you debate points instead of telling people that they're full of shit. ---------------------------- Phil Mann http://www.wideblacksky.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [quote]By the way, we're talking about Iraq, in case you fell asleep for the last 30 years. [/quote]This is true, so why in the hell have YOU brought up the great depression and a war in the early 60's? WARNING MR ROBINSON WARNING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franknputer Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Alon: [b] [img]http://www.brokennewz.com/images/ultimatesurrender.jpg[/img] [url=http://www.fuckfrance.com[/b][/quote]]http://www.fuckfrance.com[/QB][/QUOTE][/url] Nice...what was that about liberals spewing hate? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 stringer Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Ann Coulter? If you decide to do her, better put a bag over her head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 And a sheath over your tool. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Philter: [b]Bush has managed to simultaneously isolate America, allow Al Qaeda to escape, and run our economy to the ground. The job market is the worst it's been since the Great Depression.[/b][/quote]Sad, but true. The US has never been more hated abroad. Heh-heh, speaking of our clueless Prez, have you read the flack over the "Mission Accomplished" sign that he had made for his aircraft carrier PR spot? The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by geoffk: [b]Remember that FOX news viewers had a greater proportion of misunderstandings about Iraq than any other group of viewers. --source http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EJ04Ak01.html [/b][/quote]That's REALLY very frightening. Some people just want to be told that everything will be okay, even if that's a lie. Fox News supplies the service. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salyphus Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 [url=http://upsideclone.com/2002_08_16.php]How the people came to stop thinking.[/url] [quote] People prefer an answer they can understand, even if it makes no sense, to one they cannot understand but which is the truth. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 [quote]That's REALLY very frightening. Some people just want to be told that everything will be okay, even if that's a lie. Fox News supplies the service. [/quote]ALL news is propaganda , dont single out Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Can I assume we are allowed to have political threads again? If not I will take back what I said about Bush. Well, maybe I will just not post any more views about how the public seems to have no input on foreigh affairs. I do hope that everyone that did not vote in the last election will vote in the next election. Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 [quote] I do hope that everyone that did not vote in the last election will vote in the next election. [/quote]GO DEAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Wow: [b] [quote]That's REALLY very frightening. Some people just want to be told that everything will be okay, even if that's a lie. Fox News supplies the service. [/quote]ALL news is propaganda , dont single out Fox.[/b][/quote]Isn't that Dan Rathers job? To notify the nation that whom ever is president is incompetent and evil? Robert This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 [quote] To notify the nation that whom ever is president is incompetent and evil? [/quote]Its to find the TRUTH. So, if you watch all the stations, you might be lucky and get half the real story. Watch: C-Span weather channel, yes I said the weather channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antimatter Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 [img]http://www.townhall.com/acimgs/webimages/screencaps.jpg[/img] I never did really care for that Sex in the City show anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vico Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 IMHO, hating France just because they didnt support the war is wrong, calling them enemies is disturbing. Mexico did not support the war, El Salvador did Mexico did not get a migration(sp?) agreement, El Salvador got one. I dont "hate America" i simply do not understand it. Saludos Am Ende Steht Der Sieg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 8 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Wow: [b] [quote] One more thing: blaming France for the quagmire we're in is ridiculous [/quote]quagmire..................OH, [/b][/quote]QUAGMIRE!!! I love that word! Does anyone ever actually say "quagmire" outside of a political context? There are some other buzz words too, but I can't think of them at the moment. Quagmire is a good one though. This thread is becoming a quagmire! I don't see how ANY of this banter is going to get me into the sack with Ann Culter! Please, people! Let's keep our focus here! :love: Super 8 Hear my stuff here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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