S90ES injury

[zephonic]

So I got an S90ES from a friend to use while I'm out here, and promptly got a right-hand/wrist/arm injury from practicing on it.

 

Gave it a few weeks rest (no playing at all, use mouse with left hand) and the pain subsided. Today I felt good so I thought let's give it a try. First for 15 minutes, so far so good.

Later again, this time with a little more vigor. Having fun, really in the moment and bam: pain is back.

 

I have never had any pain or injuries before. And I have played on a lot of different pianos/keyboards. I really like the action on the S90ES, but it bottoms out rather hard. Feels really snappy, but I think that's what hurt me.

 

Anybody else have this?

 

[Dave Ferris]

Sounds odd Z, especially if you are used to practicing on keyboards. I don't do much of it so I generally can't say. A few weeks rest is a long time though so it sounds like something a little more serious. I'd definitely go see a specialist.

 

I guess my S90 action is the same, the balanced action as opposed to the graded of the P series DPs. I recall trying to practice piano on my S90 before in a hotel room, never had any problems but it was a study in frustration pianistically speaking. I know the ES has a much better AP.

 

I DID have sore hands after playing the Roland 700GX all week and then doing a gig on a bad Acoustic. After the second set, my hands warmed up and the soreness went away.

 

Since I'm going to check out some more DPs tomorrow, I wanted my hands and ears to get used to that "DP" sound and action, so this afternoon I was playing the Chopin Etude in sixths on my CP300 for about 20 minutes and then went over to the Steinway. Jeez, it was so much easier, the DP's action felt a lot heavier and clunky.

 

I'm no hand specialist but I'm not a proponent of extended practicing on these pseudo weighted keyboards, especially in the heavy technical area.

[JpScoey]

Mmmm - one or two things...

 

How old are you?

 

How many years have you been playing (on a different weighted keybed, maybe)?

 

Are you used to playing on a keyboard with that weight?...

 

it can make a BIG difference to the tendons in your forearms, for example.

 

It maybe a case of just getting used to it.

 

Could it be something else you've been doing? (no insinuations!), to strain -however lightly- your arm?

 

There are times when I get that "why does my arm/wrist/finger(s)" feel different?

 

There's usually a simple explaination, but if you're THAT worried -

 

get it checked out by the physio or doctor.

 

Also just try out a few simple exercises - flexing the fingers etc....

 

remember it's not only the fingers tho' - it goes right the way up to the shoulder.

 

Make sure everything is freeflowing, & you'll be allright!

 

 

Yeh - I'm sure we've all had it at some point.

 

 

Good luck fella.

 

 

[Tonysounds]

Nope...play it ALL the time. I had that kind of grief with a NordStage, but not with any other keyboard.

[MikeT156]

I'd guess that anytime you play a keyboard from a different manufacturer it takes a little time to get adjusted to the action. I've gotten so use to Yamaha's that its second nature, I love their action. My technique could stand some improvement though.

 

Hang in there,

 

 

Mike T.

[Tusker]

I had trouble the first couple of weeks and it settled in over time. I had some posture problems I was ignoring with the new board. (sitting too high, wrists slightly cocked)

 

I find that the "hard" velocity curve works best for me with this instrument ... which might seem counter-intuitive as it is a reasonably heavy action. Give it a try.

[RABid]

The only other thing I can think of, is the height or tilt of the keys different than what you are used to?

[Outkaster]

I was thinking of this because as you know I have had some hand tremors from another thread from my S-90 XS. Someone said you may not be used to gigging on it for a 5 day stretch? They could be right but it feels different than the S-90 did.

[Nicky]

I do think the Yamaha weighted action that's in the Motifs and S90 series do bottom out pretty hard, so if you're not used to it, I can see it causing problems.

[zephonic]

I felt good today and played for an hour without any problems. I think I have to adjust my playing to suit the board. After playing I could feel my muscles working. A little nag here and there, but nothing major.

 

When I play the way I'm used to, I can feel some of the energy with which I hit the key shoot right back into my arm.

 

What I like about the action is that it forces you to play accurately. But the sound doesn't give you the dynamic feedback so I instinctively hit harder to get the harmonics I'm missing. Combined with the hard bottoming out, I think that's what caused this.

 

Let's see how it goes tomorrow.

 

I find that the "hard" velocity curve works best for me with this instrument ...

 

That's my setting, too. It gives you a wider dynamic range, and it really needs that.

[kanker.]

Be very careful playing something that bottoms out hard. All that energy is being reversed back into your arm. Be VERY mindful of technique.