Saint Johnny B Posted July 4, 2003 Author Share Posted July 4, 2003 An here's a link to an author and investigative jounalist's website, I certainly hope some of you Bush Crime Family apologists find the reading interesting. http://www.gregpalast.com/columns.cfm?subject_id=4&subject_name=The%20Bush%20Family Save the World Save America Jail Bush Now! You'll be glad you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prague Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 When do you have time to practise your instruments, Johnny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talcott Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Anyone who honestly researches, I think, would "KNOW" that many people involved in this administration are fooking criminals. Ahh! Let us proclaim absolute truths. Let us dishonor war, No...glorious war does not exist. -Victor Hugo http://www.composerguitarist.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marissa Marchant Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 I was just wondering - which is better, Mac or PC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 PT or Logic? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nursers Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Invade Iraq or Iran? The Keyboard Chronicles Podcast Check out your fellow forumites in an Apple Music playlist Check out your fellow forumites in a Spotify playlist My Music: Stainless Fields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Would ya like fries with that? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Johnny B Posted July 4, 2003 Author Share Posted July 4, 2003 Yeah some un-American french fries, lov' em. Good thing we had France who really won the Revolutionary War for us, and helped kick the British Tyrants off our backs. Now we need them to come back to help kick the Hitler-loving, Nazi, facists out of the people's White House. Save the World Save America Jail Bush Now! You'll be glad you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 If I say "shit doesn't stink" 5,000 times, there are a few that will start to believe it. Is that your game johnny b? Save the World Save America Jail johnny Now! You'll be glad you did. :wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 [quote] Good thing we had France who really won the Revolutionary War for us, [/quote]:freak: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Johnny B Posted July 4, 2003 Author Share Posted July 4, 2003 Well some people are brainless, cannot think for themselves, and march in goose-step behind the "leader" like good little Nazi facists. But it was the independedent-thinking revolutionaries that we celebrate today who threw off the shackles of a corrupt British tyrant. Good Americans need to stand up now and do the same thing, that is to say, throw Bush behind bars along with the rest of his criminal enterprise because they are felons. Save the World Save America Jail Bush Now! You'll be glad you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 [quote] Well some people are brainless, cannot think for themselves [/quote]That is what you are banking on. :wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stranger Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 I'll tell you what; I'm going to have to agree that the liberalism is getting really deep around here these days. And everybody knows I'm the resident anarchist. People need to learn what real, honest to goodness conservatism is. Being a conservative means being conservative in regards to the actions of the government. Think of the root word. Conserve. Conservation. If a person says, "hey, what business does the government have in my bedroom?" -This is usually a so-called liberal viewpoint. If a person says, "I should be able to smoke whatever in the fuck I want to, I ain't hurting nobody." -This is usually a so-called liberal viewpoint. But, these are viewpoints rooted in conservatism. These terms liberal and conservative have been ruined and spun to mean a million things except what they mean. I feel the government should use conservatism in everything they do, as the system was intended to funtion. Every single aspect of the government is riddled with excess. I'm all for admitting that our society is, by it's very nature, a social one. We would be fools to deny that every government in existence is some form of socialism, including ours. We all contribute to the whole on so many levels; roads, education, defense, etc... We need moderation in these pursuits, though. And you will find that on every front, whether it's a liberal or conservative one, they are demanding restraint. The people can continue to be divided, or we can find the common ground, the common goals that we all share as a society, and a species. Mankind is capable of radical, and instant change. We have the benefit of not having to wait for evolution. We can force it ahead. We can also determine the direction in which we evolve. With this gift, we also have a responsibility. We can uphold this responsibility, or we can let nature corrrect itself. See; we the people are neglecting our responsibility. When the many are being controlled by the very few, the system is evolving to favor the very few. This is not natural and will correct itself. (See Rome or the fall of every great empire in history.) So, will we the people just go along with what we know is wrong? Will we let our children be the victims of our irresponsibilty? So, forget all this crap about who is a liberal and who is a conservative. See where you really stand. Than take the time to educate yourself. 15 minutes a day. That's all we need. Every person doesn't need to obsess over it the way I do, but just give a little bit of your time. Just a few minutes. You will be doing your part in the responsible evolution of your species. You will also be doing thye right thing for the children. The truth is not outside. The truth is inside. You can find your way if you just look inside. Look inside and find the feeling that you share with others. Get these heads and feelings together and make positive change. Action. Divided we fall. We must stand together on the common goals, than we can work out the differences. Thank you for your time and inspiration. :thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JailBushNow Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Mr. Wow: Another Brown Shirt "Youth Corps" wannabe who can't wait to fall in and goose-step behind his Fuhrer while Americans lose the last of their Constitutional Rights. Can anyone show cause why this impostor shouldn't be sent to serve the balance of his life in Prison. Jail Bush and his corrupt administration now! Then you can start calling yourself a Patriot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 8 Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by JailBushNow: [b] Can anyone show cause why this impostor shouldn't be sent to serve the balance of his life in Prison. [/b][/quote]Who? You??? No... I can't show just cause why you shouldn't spend life in prison. Now piss off, you troll! Super 8 Hear my stuff here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 [quote] Thank you for your time and inspiration. [/quote]Good Post. :thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Is that Spam or shit the troll reeks of? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
later_than_you_think Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 Bush is not the problem. "Super 8" and "Mr. WOW" are the problem. (Ever notice that the super-patriots always arrogate "super" status to themselves?) Years ago KQED (San Francisco Public TV) aired a film which I've never forgotten. The film was made at the opening of the 1st of Hitler's death camps. While Der Feuhrer stood at the edge of a giant pit, the camp commandant had a Polish prisoner brought up, handed Hitler a pistol and offered him the "honor of executing the first prisoner". I can still recall the image of Hitler's horrified, angry face; he obviously did not want to do this. But Hitler was trapped; refusal would mean that no one would carry out his orders to exterminate the millions of "undesirables". The point of all this is that, while we like to blame everything on Hitler, he only killed one prisoner. The rest were murdered by ordinary, patriotic, flag-waving Germans who loved their country ("Deuthchland uber alles") and revered God (e.g., Ein Mit Got., the SS Beltbuckle motto). Today, the foreign policy of the USA has been officially delegated to the champions (Pearl, Wolfowitz) of the Project for a New American Century which, like Germany's '1000-year reich' openly advocates the unprovoked invasion & conquest of other nations and domination of the rest of the world by force. Americans should be aghast at this. Instead, America's flag-wavers are "proud" of the "victory" over the pitiful nations of Afganistan and Iraq. Like the Germans after their successful invasions of Sudentland, Austria and Poland, we feel impowered and are giddy with the scent of a new "springtime" for our nation, after the ignoble defeat in Vietnam and the roughing-up we got on 9-11. This arrogant hooray-for-me-&-screw-you attitude will certainly lead to the destruction of our country, as it did for Germany all of history's despotic imperial regimes. To avoid the impending destruction, we need to find a way to get Americans to see themselves. If this fails, we are doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 I get it, its a "vast left-wing conspiracy". I notice all of the Lo-post counts. Two can play at that game. Let the games begin. :wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 8 Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 [img]http://www.petsignsplus.com/1fantasyxgif/troll.gif[/img] So are you going to be re-registering a new screen name everytime you post from now on??? :rolleyes: You MUST have other things you could be doing than just being a pest... How's your lawn looking these days??? Sorry, the problem isn't with me or Wow. It's with zealots like you that don't know when it's time to shut the hell up and move on to a different topic. I think you've pretty much exhausted your ability to make a coherent argument. Super 8 Hear my stuff here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcohol Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 It ain't time to "shut the hell up" and run off to another topic. This is the front and center topic. this is the Big Topic, the numero uno facing us as a country. Ain't been no mistake like this since Vietnam. The government has our people dying in a foreign land, won't let us know how 911 happened, won't let us investigate why we were so wrong about the WMDs. The government told us the Iraqi people would be right behind us in their liberation. [b]later-than-you-think[/b] made some stong statements. Don't run away. Prove him wrong! Because when I read the statements by Tariq Aziz and George Bush, that I have quoted down below, I hate the implications. I hate the idea that we as citizens aren't facing them either. George Bush or maybe the whole world seems to have made a mistake about Iraq and WMDs. What if Tariq Aziz was telling the truth? What does that mean? Why is it that in hindsight, Tariq Aziz seems more prophetic than George Bush? B A G H D A D, Iraq, Dec. 4 In an exclusive interview with ABCNEWS' Ted Koppel, Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz said that Iraq does not have weapons of mass destruction, but the United States will likely find another reason to declare war. "AZIZ: Well, my guess, my conviction is that the war is not because of weapons of mass destruction because the whole issue of weapons of mass destruction is a hoax. It has been used as a pretext in order to wage a war against Iraq. When they find that there are no weapons of mass destruction, they will use another pretext to attack." http://abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/DailyNews/koppel_tariqaziz021204.html ------------------------------------------ For Immediate Release Office of the Press Secretary January 28, 2003 "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent. In such quantities, these chemical agents could also kill untold thousands. He's not accounted for these materials. He has given no evidence that he has destroyed them. U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents. Inspectors recently turned up 16 of them -- despite Iraq's recent declaration denying their existence. Saddam Hussein has not accounted for the remaining 29,984 of these prohibited munitions. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed them. From three Iraqi defectors we know that Iraq, in the late 1990s, had several mobile biological weapons labs. These are designed to produce germ warfare agents, and can be moved from place to a place to evade inspectors. Saddam Hussein has not disclosed these facilities. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed them. The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, had a design for a nuclear weapon and was working on five different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb. The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. Our intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production. Saddam Hussein has not credibly explained these activities. He clearly has much to hide." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030128-19.html "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." [Dante Alighieri] (1265-1321) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Johnny B Posted July 5, 2003 Author Share Posted July 5, 2003 Well I see some intelligent people have come here, those that recognize that Hitler and Bush are tied together heart, mind, soul, and fortune. I just learned today that the Bush Crime Family profited from Aushwitz and still believe in eugenics. Ugh! As I look out at all the wonderful fireworks tonight, celebrating our true heros of the American Revolutionary War, called "radicals" and "terrorists" by King George and the British Tyranny we threw out, I'm reminded that true Americans are willing to fight to throw off all the opressors who would curtail or deny any our of liberties. Since George Bush, Dick Cheney, John Ashcroft are part of the Neo-Nazi and Neo-Facist Movement, they should, like the old British Tryranny, be thrown out. Good Americans will see throwing these felons and criminals behind bars as their patriotic duty. Save the World Save America Jail Bush Now You'll be glad you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
later_than_you_think Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 Super 8 wrote: "So are you going to be re-registering a new screen name everytime you post from now on???" I am only using 1 screen name on this site. It is however, a different name than I have used previously on other sites. I changed names after some FREEPER tracked down my name and made calls to my Son's house [we have the same name] and subjected my 8-year old grandson to a string of obscenities and threats. Unfortunately, the vicious, belligerent, vengefull attitude exhibited by our leaders in the executive branch of government, the right-wing media and Republicans in congress is contageous. This plague is everywhere you look now, and is only getting worse. For this reason alone, we need to make an example of these people get them out of our public life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 So GWB is responsible for the phone calls your son got? I'm sure you dont mean this, well maybe you do. Thats just what it sounds like the way your post is worded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
later_than_you_think Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 Mr. WOW writes: "So GWB is responsible for the phone calls your son got? I'm sure you dont mean this, well maybe you do. ..." No more so than Hitler was responsible for the actions of the German mobs in the thirties. I do believe that the constant stream of hateful, simplistic "Good vs. Evil", "us vs. them" rhetoric from GWB, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News and Ari "watch what you say" Fleicher, the Christion Coalition, the Anti Defamation League, the Republicans in Congress and many others together with the "ends justifies the means" excuses promulgated for the Iraq invasion, civil rights abuses at home, etc. all have a major impact on the behavior of the lowlifes among us by providing a way for them to feel justified in "hardball" attacks on Democrats, "liberals", "leftists", and the "blame-america-first-crowd". Furthermore, I believe that this is just the faintest hint of the horrors which are yet to come. The born-again-Nazi movement which has began creeping across this country in 1996 (the year of the GOP Contract With America) is being manifested in Federal Law with frightening speed since 9-11. The Patriot acts, empowerment of corporations and the PNAC to determine public policy, the near-repeal of the FOI laws by executve order and the crippling tax cuts all point in the same direction: the effective destruction of our laws and system of government. Who do you think will step forward to fill the resultant power vacuum? I do not think it will be me, or you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Johnny B Posted July 6, 2003 Author Share Posted July 6, 2003 Later-than-you-Think, Am I right that you think Geo Bush shpould be jailed? After all Bush is a Neo-Facist with direct connections to Hitler. Save the World Save America Jail Bush Now! You'll be glad you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbrock1san.rr.com Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Johnny B: [b]Later-than-you-Think, Am I right that you think Geo Bush shpould be jailed? [/b][/quote]Great, a troll with multiple personalities. :rolleyes: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 Long time no see "Johnny Troll". :wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wewus432 Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Johnny B: [b]Later-than-you-Think, Am I right that you think Geo Bush shpould be jailed? After all Bush is a Neo-Facist with direct connections to Hitler. Save the World Save America Jail Bush Now! You'll be glad you did.[/b][/quote][b]Ok this is the fucking part I don't get!!!!!!!!!![/b] What is the direct connection to Hitler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcohol Posted July 6, 2003 Share Posted July 6, 2003 What is the direct connection between pres. Bush and Hitler? I don't know and I'm by nature skeptical, so I did a little internet searching on Google and there are pages and pages of articles with allegations that the Bush family was involved in financing Hitler. Actually we shouldn't be shocked at this because the Republican Party routinely finances right wing groups throughout the world. The most salient example is the Iran/Contra scandal of the Reagan administration. (to paraphrase the article) The direct connection is that President Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush, as an invesment banker, was involved in sending money to Germany during the 20s and 30s.: "The central charge against Prescott Bush has a basis in fact. In 1942, under the Trading With the Enemy Act, the U.S. government seized several companies in which he had an interest. Prescott at the time was an investment banker with Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), which had funneled U.S. capital into Germany during the 1920s and '30s." http://www.straightdope.com/columns/030214.html "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality." [Dante Alighieri] (1265-1321) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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