Pappy P Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Ellwood and Skip Clone: Different planets (Japan/Chicago), same world (Music Business). It does seem you would have to work harder and make lots of sacrifices and compromises to get original music noticed. It does seem that you would get more experienced (and have better instincts because of it) and more gigs playing tried and true material. It's definately a tough business from either end. I admire Ellwoods openness to playing original music by local writers. This is a very interesting thread, I like the left turn it made after starting out with DMB. This is why I think this is a good forum. www.birdblues.com My Stuff On Sound Click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tone Taster Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Originally posted by Pappadopalus: This is a very interesting thread, I like the left turn it made after starting out with DMB. This is why I think this is a good forum. The Crackerjack prize effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 It does seem you would have to work harder and make lots of sacrifices and compromises to get original music noticed We mix a few covers with our originals but it's not work at all and no sacrifices because the places we play want to hear something fresh not the same ol covers,,,give 3 steps just don't fly around here.The only sacrifices we make is when we have to take the time to learn covers The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Well by and large, if you want to make some of your investment in gear, etc back the way to do that is to play covers-that`s true anywhere. There are clubs that welcome originals but they don`t necessarily pay well if at all. The viewpoint I`ve mostly run across is, guys who play covers (hopefully not the same old crap) may not always like the music they play but consider themselves the real professionals. They turn over more gear so gear makers listen to their needs. They can handle more requests, ergo more crowds so they have the ear of more club owners. About the serendipity effect of some of these threads, I`m seriously wondering how in danger it is of being snuffed out by the content cops, no offense to anyone but by far the biggest debate on this forum recently has been about-debates on this forum. BTW, writers and gigging musicians-talk about different planets... Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Pappy! you always think I live in Chicago! thats 305 miles from here ... LEE is in DETROIT!! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy P Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Sorry Ellwood. I gotta remember, Detroit, Rock City. I get Chicago and Detroit mixed up I don't know why. My grandfather was living in Detroit until he died back in '73. www.birdblues.com My Stuff On Sound Click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 The viewpoint I`ve mostly run across is, guys who play covers (hopefully not the same old crap) may not always like the music they play but consider themselves the real professionals. They turn In the words of RMN "let me make this perfectly clear" I respect all musicians ones that play covers or originals we all have to work at our craft. :thu:But I don't know of too many bands that got signed playing covers,and there are places to play here like the machine shop were you won't get through the door unless your and a original act.BTW I think at one time we all played in a cover band at least thats how I started out doing it. The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Originally posted by Darklava: The viewpoint I`ve mostly run across is, guys who play covers (hopefully not the same old crap) may not always like the music they play but consider themselves the real professionals. They turn In the words of RMN "let me make this perfectly clear" I respect all musicians ones that play covers or originals we all have to work at our craft. :thu:But I don't know of too many bands that got signed playing covers,and there are places to play here like the machine shop were you won't get through the door unless your and a original act.BTW I think at one time we all played in a cover band at least thats how I started out doing it. The Machine Shop, what kinds of original acts play there? mostly Metal or Punk Metal? I wonder how much they pay? do you know? http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Originally posted by Darklava: It does seem you would have to work harder and make lots of sacrifices and compromises to get original music noticed We mix a few covers with our originals but it's not work at all and no sacrifices because the places we play want to hear something fresh not the same ol covers,,,give 3 steps just don't fly around here.The only sacrifices we make is when we have to take the time to learn covers It's hard to believe a cover band playing in the Flint area couldn't play Gimmie 3 steps or any other Skynard cover and have an audience like it and have fun? > _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Originally posted by bbqbob: I like "Under the Table and Dreaming" but his other stuff doesn't do much for me. Saw him several years ago at Foxboro (Took my daughter and her friend!) I thought he was good but I much preferred his opening act: Santana! I agree that album is great. I thought that they were kinda flat live. Carter is in a great spot. DMB leaves so many holes for him to fill that he can really go off. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Originally posted by ellwood: Originally posted by Darklava: The viewpoint I`ve mostly run across is, guys who play covers (hopefully not the same old crap) may not always like the music they play but consider themselves the real professionals. They turn In the words of RMN "let me make this perfectly clear" I respect all musicians ones that play covers or originals we all have to work at our craft. :thu:But I don't know of too many bands that got signed playing covers,and there are places to play here like the machine shop were you won't get through the door unless your and a original act.BTW I think at one time we all played in a cover band at least thats how I started out doing it. The Machine Shop, what kinds of original acts play there? mostly Metal or Punk Metal? I wonder how much they pay? do you know? Not much but if your good you can open for signed acts.It all depends on what your goals are Ellwood no doubt you make some big cash for what you do and thats great that means more gear wich always good but I've done the cover thing for years and got tired of it.The band I play in now we're more of a jam band a little cash is good but being able to be creative out ways the money to me. The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted January 18, 2006 Author Share Posted January 18, 2006 Ok I see, I was just wondering? Yes it's tons of fun to jam and just enjoy yourself and be creative. Flint is a market I have never been involved in, well except for along time ago the band I was in at the time opened up for Mitch Rider and Illusion at some Armory or something like that a really big open room I remember. http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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