ElmerJFudd

I just gave Piano2Notes a spin with their free test. Here is what I fed it. I also told it that it was in the key of A, 4/4 time and "classical" because the only options were classical or pop. Here is the result (first 20 seconds of music are free).

Any software that is capable of picking out notes from a recording should be capable of exporting a MIDI file that you can open in notation software. The issue has always been accuracy. Most software is dumb regarding this like, what key are we in, what was the player’s intention with this imperfectly played rhythmic figure, is this a time signature change, is this swing and should I just draw 8ths and mark it swing, is this a purposeful rit. or rall. - where does it begin and end and where are the bars now? Software generally sucks at this. Can AI learn to be a professional transcriber and copyist? Maybe - the simpler the music is the easier it is for software. Chord.ai on iPad is ok. Not perfect by any means. It can find bar lines and give chord names to harmonies it hears. Sometimes it’s right and sometimes it’s just wrong. I don’t have the paid version so I am not sure if it can notate out melodies. I know Melodyne can. Anyway, I’d be well impressed to see AI perfectly chart out any reasonably complex piece of music as a human could.

Oh no! If I make a spreadsheet it’s going to be at least as long! Dangit, thanks allot, Max. 😉

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Is it reasonably possible to upgrade the pots on it the FC35 to better match their spec?

Version 5

And the CME WIDI is built on Bluetooth v5! Even better.

If the funds are there, I’d start with 16/512. But if pinched it’s a tough call on upgrading 8gb RAM or 256gb storage. Keeping in mind that laptops like Apple M3, Surface Pro 10, Dell Latitude or any “System on a Chip” designs are soldering these parts onto the motherboard so there’s no upgrading them later.

It sounds like music loving humans have to decide for themselves - stream human made music and ignore AI generated material. If there is little interest in AI generated music it will be relegated to low budget background music.

I would suggest always starting with your goal, budget and amount of time you want to invest in setting it up - and the answer is usually MacBook Air M1 or M2 (8gb/512gb minimum spec) with Mainstage. Don't underestimate the robust features as well as the wide palette of sounds and FX included with Mainstage - $29.99. As a chart reader any refurbished iPad with a screen large enough for your eyes is good enough.

I don't think racks are coming back. But desktop units with the sound sets from Kronos, Jupiter-80, Montage M, or K2700 are all welcome!

I believe they got latency down with Bluetooth v4 which is what the Yamaha MD-BT01 is based on. It has a lot to do with distance - so the further away you need to transmit from the greater the delay.

Please report back on this schematic and again on your success or troubles as I’m keen to take this project on as well!

I also think the FC35 is an FC3 and two FC5 design and behavior wise. It will take a bit of fiddling to figure out the TS and TRS cabling. It is more likely to work with the Montage once solved than the Roland since they do wire their pedals differently. The audiofront product is really only helpful with software pianos - you’d have to calibrate a continued pedal I presume to get half damper behavior in Pianoteq, etc. Given how popular and successful software pianos have been - with enthusiasts collecting them - I am simply astounded that several lovely brass black lacquer Bluetooth/USB triple pedals are not on the market. 🤷‍♂️ I’d buy one. I had the CME but the electronics eventually failed.

Just out of curiosity do you want it to function in a piano manner? Like… una corda, sostenuto and damper? Does the Montage have any piano patches onboard that offer that functionality? Or do you want to use the pedal to control software pianos running on your computer? If it’s the latter, consider an audiofront autosensing pedal to USB converter. https://www.audiofront.net/MIDIExpression.php I would ask Yamaha technical support if they can assist you with the wiring schematic - they may or may not want to. Alternatively you can contact or visit an authorized Yamaha repair center and see if they are willing to send you a jpg of the page you need from the service manual - I’d be happy to get the FC35 or any of the FC models.

The Yamaha FC35 is compatible with P-121/P-125/P-125a/P-225/P-515/P-525/P-S500/DGX-670 and supports half damper on the right damper pedal. The cable connector on the FC-35 is unique to those models. As shown here. It is highly likely that the three pedals in this unit are the same in design internally as Yamaha’s FC3/FC4 (continuous half damper support) and FC5 (momentary) pedals. So one might consider replacing the cable with 3 of your own, copying the wiring and plugging the right into sustain, the middle and left into assignable pedal inputs on the Montage. Most people that want 2 or 3 Yamaha compatible pedals purchase them individually, attach all to a small board side by side and use the cables they came with. However a few especially picky people build a little house over the pedals to look like a complete unit and paint it black. Why don’t all the digital piano/keyboard makers offer a triple pedal that is compatible with all their keyboards? I think they don’t sell a lot of them (most piano hobbyists just use the sustain pedal even if they have 3 pedals). They don’t of course want to offer all features on all models - it messes with their pricing schemes.

“A chorus of disapproval has risen from the music industry. Over 200 musicians, including legendary names like Pearl Jam, Jon Bon Jovi, and Stevie Wonder, have joined forces to protest the use of AI-generated music. This coalition, organized by the Artist Rights Alliance, is taking a stand against what they see as a threat to human creativity and fair compensation. In a powerful open letter, the Alliance calls on AI developers and tech companies to ensure that their creations don’t undermine the rights of human artists…” Concerns include training AI on their works for copy cat recordings without permission and then using these sound-alike recordings to dilute royalty obligations. https://killthedj.com/200-artists-sign-a-petition-against-ai-using-their-art-for-training/

Significant improvements to that acoustic piano engine from when I played it on first release. 👍

It has arrived at the Dr's studio.... spends some good time on the APs and EPs, small taste of the organs, with rotary on fast.

SwiftScan is nice - scans rapidly, auto crops, adjusts for flatness of paper, saves locally and/or to cloud storage. Can save as PDF or JPG. I paid like $4.99 for it once and although they have attempted to bloat the app and add features for an upgrade price. I ignore. It does all I need as is.

There’s a free AU for MainStage made by a meticulous fellow I posted recently. Apple really needs to get MainStage on iOS.

Different gigs, purposes and needs. A lot of forum members are playing in cover bands and looking to match what they hear on the recording - the Roland ROMplers are great for this and can be had for little money given the time that’s passed. For me one or a few great sounding modern acoustic and electric piano sounds and I’m happy. If I have to do a pit orch job - MainStage. For a pop/dance band playing decades of hits - the nostalgic sounds are perfect. It’s not my favorite gig, but since I sold my XP-80 and JV-2030 some moons ago I’ve been thinking Zenology would be handy.

A ton of these sounds are in Zenology now. And they reside in the XV-5080, Integra-7 and many others, even the Juno-X. Lots of useful stuff - in a pinch and even the perfect sound depending what we’re emulating. But yeah, there are much better samples and modeled instruments that are substantially more realistic in more recent attempts - especially from software developers.

Is the drive in a TB enclosure or USB 3 enclosure?